Vive la résistance! - Duceppe
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So so silly, from every possible viewpoint......
I actually like Duceppe....but the rhetoric is over the top.
Laughable.
i hope he is not talking about the french in France, more french supported the nazi's then opposed them. And the other germanic countries, denmark and norway resistred alot more then the people of France, in % wise....
And also the English speaking nations liberated those french anyways.....
The Blocs day of end is near and comments like these will put more nails in the coffin
No province as the right to seperate is what i believe, i dont care if thats not PC.
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I think any province has the right to separate all they want. However, separation of that sort has to then become a divorce. No alimony is paid and the separating province is on their own. If they want to separate, then they become a country in their own right - they just need to find some land to live on because - the land their live on, is Canadian property. They would need to buy us out if they wanted to stay where they are. Quebec cannot afford to buy the land they occupy to live on. They already have a country they can go to (France) since those who are separatists do not call themselves Canadians anyway. They are the mosquito that keeps buzzing at us, nipping at us and drawing just that tiny tiny amount of blood. Eventually, like the mosquito that we smack and have it fall to the floor, maybe separatists will too. Then maybe those who want to be Canadian will be proud to call themselves Canadian and refer to their province as "Canada". I hope that happens in my lifetime. It's too bad Duceppe feels the way he does. He would make a great leader of Canada. Like Colpy, I actually like Duceppe and I wish he was a Canadian. A real Canadian.
I think Quebec's biggest problem with separation would be the Cree and Mohawks. Quebec would lose at least 1/2 or more of their land base because the Aboriginal population would remain in Canada. As has been shown during Oka and other skirmishes, the Quebec government and police has been brutal to its native population so good luck keeping them in Quebec.
"more french supported the nazi's then opposed them"?
Really Johnnny? So the 560,000 deaths at the hands of the Nazi's were what? a few resistors? Supporting Nazi's and accepting defeat/occupation are very different. The Petain puppet government were supporters, the citizens of France were not. My father lived through the occupation in Britanny.
Also, there's this thing called the internet or if you're "old School" there's a place called a Library where they have all kinds of actual facts on everything. Saves one from making up stories when one doesn't know and saves one from insulting the memory of those who experienced that dark time.
Now back to the topic. Hopefully Mr Duceppe's idea of an active resistance isn't the same as that of the French resistance. Memories of the FLQ still linger...
Really Johnnny? So the 560,000 deaths at the hands of the Nazi's were what? a few resistors? Supporting Nazi's and accepting defeat/occupation are very different. The Petain puppet government were supporters, the citizens of France were not. My father lived through the occupation in Britanny.
Also, there's this thing called the internet or if you're "old School" there's a place called a Library where they have all kinds of actual facts on everything. Saves one from making up stories when one doesn't know and saves one from insulting the memory of those who experienced that dark time.
Now back to the topic. Hopefully Mr Duceppe's idea of an active resistance isn't the same as that of the French resistance. Memories of the FLQ still linger...
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Duceppe and the Bloc Québecois do not support any form of violent resistance. Both the Bloc and the PQ believe the only way to reach sovereignty is democratically.
Aren't the PQ the political wing of the FLQ. At least, that is how they started out, I think.
they are, and the french troops who fired on the americans in morroco and algeria in 1942 were doing a dam good job of supporting the nazis....
ive heard the old saying the only french speakers on the beaches of normandy were Quebecois lol
Spouting statements associated with violence such as "Vive la resistance" is a means to incite that violence while still keeping his distance. There is still that fanatical minority who wish separation by any means and this as a good way to poke them with a stick.
There have also been allegations over the years that some Quebecois nationalists used to try and pass information on departing ships/convoys to the Nazis, although I have never seen anything approaching confirmation of those tales.
I thought Duceppe was about the most charismatic of the party leaders, pretty much since he assumed the reins of the BQ. Too bad he's falling off the extremist side of the bus again...
Again, Google is your friend..
Wikipedia: By the time the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia_campaignTunisia Campaign was fought, the Vichy French forces in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_AfricaNorth Africa were on the Allied side
Wikipedia: By the time the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia_campaignTunisia Campaign was fought, the Vichy French forces in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_AfricaNorth Africa were on the Allied side
The Vichy French was the Puppet Government installed by Hitler After the defeat of France. Though in control of police and remnants of the army and navy at the beginning their power eroded quickly as the war wore on with military units joining De Gaulle's Free French.
So now that you've got the hang of researching and quoting Facts maybe you can show me where I could find the "more french supported the nazi's then opposed them" fact...
You know what you got me their but ill go as far to say that they are opportunists... You threw put a number of 500000+ resistors dead? Are you sure they werent just non combatants? I could say 17.5% of the polish population that died plus the actual resistors of poland fought against the germans were all resistors when in fact most of them were rounded up. And alot of them dint fight in the first place....Big difference in my opinion
Take it from me, dont use wikipedia
The French Resistance
Take it from me, dont use wikipedia
The French Resistance
How about we call it a draw and get this thread back on track.
Separatism has been slowly falling by the wayside and my fear is the hardcore minority will be more desperate to put their agenda back on the front burner. Whatever it is they always seem to twist it around so it's the rest of Canada that's at fault.
1 Start Fire
2 Blame the other guy
3 add gasoline
Separatism has been slowly falling by the wayside and my fear is the hardcore minority will be more desperate to put their agenda back on the front burner. Whatever it is they always seem to twist it around so it's the rest of Canada that's at fault.
1 Start Fire
2 Blame the other guy
3 add gasoline
