Vice Presidential Debate

EagleSmack

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Who would have thought that all the world's problems hinge on and would be solved if Donald Trump would just release his taxes!
 

JLM

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Who would have thought that all the world's problems hinge on and would be solved if Donald Trump would just release his taxes!


Yeah, it seems no one wants to mind his own business any more. What do Trump's taxes have to do with his ability to be a President? To most folks it would probably make as much sense as a grocery list written in Hieroglyphics! :)
 

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Trump's persona is to insist that he's won, even when he loses. Assuming he loses the election, he will insist that he won, and he's already laid the groundwork claiming that the election is going to be fixed.


He's pretty much creating a civil war in the US, and that will be very interesting to watch.
Trump wasn't in the debate last night .
 

EagleSmack

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Trump's persona is to insist that he's won, even when he loses. Assuming he loses the election, he will insist that he won, and he's already laid the groundwork claiming that the election is going to be fixed.

The groundwork was laid when Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC fixed the Democrat Primaries.
 

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Just think, Trump is elected Predident, someone bumps him off for the good of the planet right after and Pence is President by Christmas.

Nope. Trump won't even be sworn in(at?) by xmas. Make it easter.

And to think I went to work last night instead of watching the nonevent of the year.

Yes, just like the online polls that thought Trump won the last debate lol

He had the better temperament between the two but if you are actually going to care about facts, then he said nothing of substance.

Meaning he didn't say what you wanted to hear. NOT the same thing.
 

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Like I said during the presidential debate: the winner of the debate is determined by the polls afterward. Not polls of people saying who won the debate, but polls measuring how people are going to vote. I doubt many people are going to change their opinions based on the veep debate and within the next week non-VP related developments could influence polls more. It could be difficult to determine whether the VP debate actually had an impact.

But if you really want to fight out who "won", you could always look at the reactions of the candidates, their media surrogates and the media itself. You generally can't trust any of them, because they'll declare victory even before the debate. So if Republicans or the Republican media say Pence won, you can't put much stock in that, but I've seen Democrats and left-leaning media declare it a tie, which means they lost.
 

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I thought Pense was cool and deliberate in the debate, Kane antsy, over caffeinated and erratic.

It was a clear victory for Pense, although i wasn't really that impressed with his mannerisms which were obviously intended to evoke Ronald Reagan (i was never an admirer). But Pense himself is a very conventional Republican, put in place to shore up the base.

I thought his best and most authentic moments were his defense of Life and Faith... over Kane's rejection of his own Catholic Faith as any guide to public responsibility.. in preference of the moral relativism, radical individualism and the Culture of Death that has inundated America in a flood of despair.

In any case no one votes for the VP. Trump will have to win this on his own merits, and he is far from conventional in any contemporary stereotype.
 
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So, Pense must be against capital punishment, because he explicitly talked about his belief in the sanctity of life above all else, and therefore I assume he will work to eliminate capital punishment in the US.
 

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Did I say that he was?

Yabut u dum cuz u says Trump.


Anyway


Republican Mike Pence narrowly wins VP debate in poll, but upside appears limited - Politics - CBC News

The small scale of Pence's win is similar to Paul Ryan's four-point edge over Joe Biden in 2012's vice-presidential debate — a debate victory that did not translate into an election victory for Ryan's running mate. On the other hand, the wide margins of victory recorded in CNN's polling for the 1992, 1996 and 2008 vice-presidential debates were put up by winning tickets (Al Gore in 1992 and 1996 and Biden in 2008).
 

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So, Pense must be against capital punishment, because he explicitly talked about his belief in the sanctity of life above all else, and therefore I assume he will work to eliminate capital punishment in the US.


It was Kane who said, that as Governor of Virginia.. he'd signed death warrants, despite being opposed to Capital Punishment. Pense has never signed a death warrant as Governor of Indiana, and none are scheduled. Who's the hypocrite.
 

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So, Pense must be against capital punishment, because he explicitly talked about his belief in the sanctity of life above all else, and therefore I assume he will work to eliminate capital punishment in the US.

You never see conservative talk of "sanctity of life" manifest itself in anything other than limiting women's reproductive rights. They don't care about life. They only want to control female sexuality.
 

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It was Kane who said, that as Governor of Virginia.. he'd signed death warrants, despite being opposed to Capital Punishment. Pense has never signed a death warrant as Governor of Indiana, and none are scheduled. Who's the hypocrite.



Is your stance that an elected official should follow his religious beliefs even to the point of ignoring the law?
 

EagleSmack

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You never see conservative talk of "sanctity of life" manifest itself in anything other than limiting women's reproductive rights. They don't care about life. They only want to control female sexuality.

sniffles
 

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So, Pense must be against capital punishment, because he explicitly talked about his belief in the sanctity of life above all else, and therefore I assume he will work to eliminate capital punishment in the US.


He may have meant viable life, not "life" that congregates in the gutters! :)