Venezuela Socialist Thrashed In Elections
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The disappeared were in the alrighty comrades part of the reply. The first part was how many graduates from the school there were. Cliffy was pointing out how many were from the country in question. Do you think they failed to follow through on what they were trained to do??
Pretty much, few decades later than it should have been though. One of the 'better late than never' items.Evabody hates us.
Another red from the collective Walnut?
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It's because there is a right wing revival so it makes him happy.
My point is, who gives a crap about Venezuela? lol
What's the matter Flossy? You were hoping this would fly under the radar it would seem.
All of Chavez's hopes and dreams... all of the lefty hopes and dreams flushed once again.
Here is a box for you too!
Floosy and MHz are just salty. This is normal behavior for them.
You're too old for me to have any idea or even care what you are talking about.
Good for Venezuela on electing who they wanted.
Democracy worked.
Good for Venezuela on electing who they wanted.
Democracy worked.
LMAO.... Soooooo salty
Venezuela Celebrates After the Defeat of 'Chavismo'
Expect more important coverage of these historic elections.
The last time I saw you this happy was some incident in Syria that helped ISIS. It looks like this campaign is starting to show dividends. I can only imagine Libya was the model for the 'reconstruction' that follows once the IMF is running the money show. The 3% get richer and the 97% get shafted.
Same old same old.
Declassified CIA Manual Shows How US Uses Bureaucracy to Destabilize Governments
The World War II-era document, called Simple Sabotage Field Manual, outlines ways in which operatives can disrupt and demoralize enemy administrators and police forces. The first section of the document, which can be read in its entirety here, addresses “Organizations and Conferences” — and how to turn them into a “dysfunctional mess”:
- Insist on doing everything through “channels.” Never permit short-cuts to be taken in order to expedite decisions.
- Make “speeches.” Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. Illustrate your “points” by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences.
- When possible, refer all matters to committees, for “further study and consideration.” Attempt to make the committee as large as possible — never less than five.
- Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.
- Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.
- Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.
- Advocate “caution.” Be “reasonable” and urge your fellow-conferees to be “reasonable” and avoid haste which might result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.
- In a second section targeted at manager-saboteurs, the guide lists the following tactical moves:
- In making work assignments, always sign out the unimportant jobs first. See that important jobs are assigned to inefficient workers.
- Insist on perfect work in relatively unimportant products; send back for refinishing those which have the least flaw.
- To lower morale and with it, production, be pleasant to inefficient workers; give them undeserved promotions.
- Hold conferences when there is more critical work to be done.
- Multiply the procedures and clearances involved in issuing instructions, paychecks, and so on. See that three people have to approve everything where one would do.
- Work slowly.
- Contrive as many interruptions to your work as you can.
- Do your work poorly and blame it on bad tools, machinery, or equipment. Complain that these things are preventing you from doing your job right.
- Never pass on your skill and experience to a new or less skillful worker.
It must be the imported kind.
http://time.com/4138141/venezuela-chavismo-defeat/
“I am happy, happy, happy, that Venezuela has a new light, a new hope,” says Soraya Molina, a 46-year-old public sector worker, waving a flag and dancing. “I have faith in God, and in this wonderful people we have, who finally woke up. Things have passed that should never have happened in our country.”
Another celebrator, Jaynor Hernandez, 24, said he can hardly remember a time when the socialists, referred to here as the Chavistas, were not in power; he was only seven when Chavez won his first election in 1998. “Things have been terrible. But we can do better,” says Hernandez, a student. “We can get out of this hole we are in now. We shouldn’t have to stand in line for hours just to buy basic stuff.” Hernandez drove round the streets in a car packed with fellow students, shouting in celebration and waving a flag out the window.
Amid the economic turmoil and confrontational politics, about a million Venezuelans have left the country in the last decade, many settling in Miami.
They should be contacted in a year and see how the dream is unfolding, they will most likely be dead or out of a job and visiting soup kitchens. Those would be called the crooks in most languages, in the US they are heroes.
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Venezuela had a great democratic electoral process, the best in the world.
Where are the idiots who said the socialists got in power due to corruption and electoral fraud?
The people got sick of economic problems in their country and the perpetual violence and voted differently in hopes for a change. Unfortunately these issues will not improve as they were never a problem created by the socialist government.
For the poor it will be worse and the violence no better. More of the country will now be open to corporate interests that benefit the wealthy, as is typical of capitalism.
Where are the idiots who said the socialists got in power due to corruption and electoral fraud?
The people got sick of economic problems in their country and the perpetual violence and voted differently in hopes for a change. Unfortunately these issues will not improve as they were never a problem created by the socialist government.
For the poor it will be worse and the violence no better. More of the country will now be open to corporate interests that benefit the wealthy, as is typical of capitalism.
That is how Chavez stayed in power. Maduro just didn't have the same power and charisma.
Just another failed socialist system.
Just another failed socialist system.
You're extra salty I am sure.
My only regret is Hugo the Pig isn't around to see his revolution has failed.
My only regret is Hugo the Pig isn't around to see his revolution has failed.
Nope. Sorry, I will stick to the topic or I will exit this thread. I think if you want to discuss Venezuelan/USA relations, you should start a thread about it and quit trying to sidetrack this thread to be about your hatred against the USA.
Or do you have anything to say about the election?
Not me. =)Evabody hates us.
I do. I want to visit some day.
YAY! hehe
Of course. Not only can Megaputz drag the USA into a discussion about Venezuela's election, but he has to drag the ME into it, as well.
Exactly. Feeble nad hateful minds and all that, you know.
What is? The whine?
Damn. I forgot again. What was the topic?
Oh yeah, Venezuela's election was the topic.
Because of the person folks like you were raving about a few years ago (Chavez)? No, say it is not so.
What makes you think they would stay in the USA after this election?
I bet once things improve in VE, some of those folks would want to go back to their homes.
It is true that Chavez was pretty popular to begin with. But then Venezuelans started to see his dictatorial practises and his popularity declined pretty steadily.
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That part of the post had to do with who the leader of the opposition was and what their platform was. They didn't have one other than an (empty) promise that they could make things better. That can only be accomplished by going the same route as thew Ukraine has gone in the last few years and the policy will be the same. Let the IMF take control like they had before Hugo came into power.
You are pretending you have a handle on the situation then let's see it. What is the platform of the winners that will enable them to succeed where Hugo failed. If the US pumped 5B into the Ukraine to get what they wanted you can bet they pumped that much and more into this country as it has a lot more to offer international corporations, the same ones that were running (and ruining) the place before the revolt.
Don't be shy about why you love the way the US does business, expand on that into a post by itself.
Would you have gone before the Hugo revolution because that is what it will be like again very quickly. The rich (who are visiting Miami) will get richer and the other 99% will get shafted even more if the US doesn't fold like a house of cards in the near future.
Yeah for the vote and a laugh about the missing word 'fair' elections. That about sum it up?
It's a small world as far as how the US acts towards countries on it's hit list.
Tell me again how good the least had it when the IMF and bif oil was running the place. Feel free to make it a long article.
I suggest you look back at the comments made by members when Hugo was in power if you want to see what whining is like. ES being the perfect role model for that.
Don't forget to add a bit about what kind of changes a change in rulers will bring.
Obviously not the poor of the country, why would the rich leave if they were playing a fair game before? Answer, they wouldn't but they would if they were facing criminal charges for the way they ran their businesses.
You mean back to pre-Hugo days. News flash, that won't be an improvement. Thet were ruich when they got to the US and what have they been doing to enhance live for their neighbors in their new pl;ayground. (actual article rather than your imagination)
He was popular even after his death, try to go with actual history rather than your imaginary one.
Better source of facts than the collective.
Since he was much more human than you, what would that make you. Oh yeah, a person who approves of the US and their foreign policy, not a huge surprise and not such a noble position.