Vatican: "The rape is less serious than abortion"

gerryh

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Do you believe that this 9 year old should not have had an abortion?


The article states that the girls life was in danger. If this is in fact the truth, then I agree with the abortion. The ONLY reason I would support a medically induced abortion is if the mothers life was in a very real danger.
 

taxslave

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That's pretty low TS. I am Catholic and do not view pedophilia as a human right.

Raping a 9 year old girl is pretty low. And the RC hierarchy condones it. Therefore by extension anyone that would belong to such an organization also supports it.
This has nothing about belief in any god, it is about supporting an organization whose leadership condones pedophilia.

The article states that the girls life was in danger. If this is in fact the truth, then I agree with the abortion. The ONLY reason I would support a medically induced abortion is if the mothers life was in a very real danger.

I'm fairly sure that giving birth would kill a 9 yr. old.
 

gerryh

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Raping a 9 year old girl is pretty low. And the RC hierarchy condones it. Therefore by extension anyone that would belong to such an organization also supports it.
This has nothing about belief in any god, it is about supporting an organization whose leadership condones pedophilia.


Wrong on both counts.


I'm fairly sure that giving birth would kill a 9 yr. old.

well look at that, wrong again. You just can't seem to get anything right, can you.

List of youngest birth mothers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Raping a 9 year old girl is pretty low. And the RC hierarchy condones it. Therefore by extension anyone that would belong to such an organization also supports it.
This has nothing about belief in any god, it is about supporting an organization whose leadership condones pedophilia.

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They don't condone pedophilia.
 

Bar Sinister

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I'll defend the Vatican here.

If you join an organization, you abide by its rules or suffer the consequences of your actions. Those sho disagreed with the Vatican were certainly free to withdraw their membership from the Vatican. I disagree with the Vatican on many points, but it doesn't matter because I had enough respect for it to recognize that if I don't agree with it, I'm free to withdraw, which is what I did.


I believe the builders of Auschwitz and Dachau and the creators of the Gulag used similar reasoning. If something is morally wrong it it wrong no matter what organization someone has pledged himself to.
 

gerryh

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I believe the builders of Auschwitz and Dachau and the creators of the Gulag used similar reasoning. If something is morally wrong it it wrong no matter what organization someone has pledged himself to.


When you're right, you're right. The murder of innocent baby's through abortion is morally wrong, no matter how you justify it.
 

jariax

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Not sure why this is surprising. The Catholic church views abortion as murder.

Judging murder as worse than rape isn't that egregious.
 

karrie

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if the little girl wasn't the main point here, there would be no descrimination, so for me they have
directly lashed out at the little girl, not giving a crap about her at the time, or in the future.
If the girl wasn't the main point, it wasn't descrimination? Well, she wasn't. So it wasn't?

I don't want to be overly pedantic but your comment reads like you're saying you've decided it's a direct attack against the child so you can classify it as discrimination.
 

EagleSmack

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Sorry but I don't see a difference.
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You really don't see a difference between the Catholic church concealing the abuse of children to them actually condoning it? I can tell you in all the years going to church I never once heard them say that child abuse was acceptable. I never once heard of them condoning it. Did many try to conceal it, absolutely and they were 100% wrong in doing that. As I said, they are 100% guilty of concealing the crimes of their priests. They tried to cover it up, which was so wrong. They did not say it was ok for the clergy to do it though.
 

Niflmir

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Amen! Just like Muzzies and Heebs culture plays a role.

There is no such thing as more forgiveness or less forgiveness. This girl can still take Communion and will get a lot of support from her Diocese.

You honestly believe that? You think the only recourse people have to actions they don't like is to do everything they can to destroy a person (no forgiveness) or to completely act like it never happened (complete forgiveness)? Don't you think you might have a bit too narrow a view of the spectrum of human interaction?

The church said that this girl was no longer welcome in church. Yet somehow you are trying to argue that this does not make her an outcast because she can just hide in the pews?
 

gerryh

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You honestly believe that? You think the only recourse people have to actions they don't like is to do everything they can to destroy a person (no forgiveness) or to completely act like it never happened (complete forgiveness)? Don't you think you might have a bit too narrow a view of the spectrum of human interaction?

The church said that this girl was no longer welcome in church. Yet somehow you are trying to argue that this does not make her an outcast because she can just hide in the pews?


Unless you can supply a quote from the Church backing up the above you are just talking out of your rabidly bigoted ass.