Vaping...any thoughts?
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Which vortez are you in? How many fingerz? Zir, Zir please try to stay with me. Rebelz both of them
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Coffez spiltz, newz boardz tomorrowz, zorry, . . . . . do you think he bought it?, . . . what mic?
Only one I can recall that went by that name lived in my grandson's toy-box. Auto-bot Right? (if I'm wrong it's because they were his toys and not mine)
It's just an impulse to ban everything these days. Whatever happened to individual choice. There has been no reported impacts as a result of e-cigaretes. That doesn't mean the risk is zero, but you can't simoly ban everything on the off chance it might be risky.
What? Sure we can! C'mon, we should at least try, right? I mean, everything can kills us, so why not ban everything....that way we can all die from boredom. Nice, safe, easy boredom.
What's most telling is so many groups want them banned without proof they are negative yet these same groups are ignoring the info that they are way safer than cigs and help people quit.
At this point I'm even suspicious of the motives of some of the Canadian Lung Associations wanting them banned.
I suppose they can even see 'the writing on the wall' if the smoking population dropped to 5% or less......
Indeed, some analysts — and e-cigarette business people — have wondered behind the scenes if opponents of such technology are getting paid by Big Tobacco, said David Sweanor, an adjunct law professor at the University of Ottawa and long-time anti-smoking advocate.
He does not believe anyone is really on the take but said it highlights the unconscious impact of critics’ “absolutist” views.
Many ex-smokers say the devices have helped them quit the way nothing else could.
Scientific evidence of their effectiveness as a tobacco-cessation tool is limited, however, and public-health officials warn the devices could re-normalize smoking after years of work to discourage the habit, and lead non-smoking young people to cigarettes by hooking them on nicotine.
There is also concern about the safety of the vapour itself, though a study of its ingredients just published in the journal BMC Public Health concluded it posed virtually no risk to users
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Public health officials inadvertently bolstering tobacco market with crackdown on e-cigarettes, analysts say
Reports of the €10,000 meal come after French health minister Marisol Touraine announced last week she would put forward a bill to ban the use of electronic cigarettes in public, enclosed spaces.
The timing of the dinner has some French observers questioning the state's relationship to tobacco vendors, especially at a time when the tobacco industry is in transition.
Tax hikes on tobacco in recent years, calls in some quarters for 'plain packaging' in France, and a looming ban on electronic cigarettes, provide a heady political backdrop for the opulent meal.
The luncheon, hosted by BAT France President Soraya Zoueihid, was topped off with Cuban cigars, and added up to a bill of around €10,000.
Around half a million French people are estimated to use electronic cigarettes as a way of weening themselves off traditional tobacco.
A representative from BAT France was not available for comment at the time of writing.
French MPs' lunch with big tobacco causes a stir - The Local
I don't know about helping people quit smoking or even being a gateway to smoking but I do know that the second hand smoke is just as anoying and dangerous to none smokers as a real live cancer stick.
Yes, I have. They must be using different devices up there. Maybe they Red Greened a Blu to turn it into a fog machine. Worst I've ever experienced down here is a mild odour.
Either way, you said "annoying and dangerous." Annoying is subjective, dangerous ain't. Be happy to look over your data on the dangers of nicotine-laced water vapour vs. tobacco smoke (with commercial additives).
HOORAY!!!
My sweetheart hasn't had a nasty, stinky, dirty, expensive cigarette in 10 days.
Nothing but vaping, zero complaints of jonesing and it's already paid for itself.
If these things get banned it will be a horrific mistake.
My sweetheart hasn't had a nasty, stinky, dirty, expensive cigarette in 10 days.
Nothing but vaping, zero complaints of jonesing and it's already paid for itself.
If these things get banned it will be a horrific mistake.