US unemployment rate rises to 9.9%

SirJosephPorter

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Can he even fix what Bush and the Republicans did?

I had no idea you had so much faith in Obama.

Even the right wing God of the Bible won't be able to fix what Bush and the Republicans did. As they say, one fool can ask more questions than a thousand wise men can answer.

Same way, one fool of a Republican can make a bigger mess than thousand presidents can clean up.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I haven't been on in a long while due to working my 2 jobs and saving money to get out of the US...a


Try Canada, bizzymum. It is a breath of fresh air compared to USA. Much more liberal, much more tolerant, more progressive. No restrictions on abortion of any kind, no death penalty, universal health care, longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality, lower maternal mortality than USA (which is not really saying a lot).

No discrimination of any kind against gays (gay marriage is legal all over Canada). Lower budget deficit than USA, lower unemployment than USA, no plunging house prices. Strict gun control, very low crime rate (much lower than that of USA), very low murder rate.

Canada is a regular hellhole, proper Sodom and Gomorrah in the eyes of conservative Republicans (and in the eyes of extreme right wing Canadians, there are a couple of them in this forum).

Even with a right wing ideologue for the PM, Canada is a much better place than USA.
 
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Icarus27k

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I haven't been on in a long while due to working my 2 jobs and saving money to get out of the US...anyway...President Obama said in his acceptance speech that the country is in a mess and that is will take time to get it better and it will take every american to do their part. The US is the most wasteful, arrogant, and self centred country on the planet and I have been to quite a few. The US believes they are superior while they lag behind in healthcare,education, environmental concerns and social concerns ie race relations and overall way of life.

And yet, I fill the most comfortable in the US. Being in other countries makes me incredibily self-concious.
 

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The US is the most wasteful, arrogant, and self centred country on the planet and I have been to quite a few. The US believes they are superior while they lag behind in healthcare,education, environmental concerns and social concerns ie race relations and overall way of life.[/quote]Self-loathing is a terrible thing.
That's a pretty poor assessment. She obviously doesn't agree with a lot of what the US is and seems to want to have a better life elsewhere. That indicates that she has enough self-respect to want to live in a better place and is hardly an indication of self-loathing. In other words, she doesn't like her present environment. That has nothing to do with how she views herself.
Apparently you use what is between your ears for something other than thinking.
 

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Try Canada, bizzymum. It is a breath of fresh air compared to USA. Much more liberal, much more tolerant, more progressive. No restrictions on abortion of any kind, no death penalty, universal health care, longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality, lower maternal mortality than USA (which is not really saying a lot).

No discrimination of any kind against gays (gay marriage is legal all over Canada). Lower budget deficit than USA, lower unemployment than USA, no plunging house prices. Strict gun control, very low crime rate (much lower than that of USA), very low murder rate.

Canada is a regular hellhole, proper Sodom and Gomorrah in the eyes of conservative Republicans (and in the eyes of extreme right wing Canadians, there are a couple of them in this forum).

Even with a right wing ideologue for the PM, Canada is a much better place than USA.
Buzzymum,
In spite of the utopian and somewhat incorrect view of Canada that SirPorker has, Canada has its problems, too.
 

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Try Canada, bizzymum. It is a breath of fresh air compared to USA. Much more liberal, much more tolerant, more progressive. No restrictions on abortion of any kind, no death penalty, universal health care, longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality, lower maternal mortality than USA (which is not really saying a lot).

No discrimination of any kind against gays (gay marriage is legal all over Canada). Lower budget deficit than USA, lower unemployment than USA, no plunging house prices. Strict gun control, very low crime rate (much lower than that of USA), very low murder rate.

Canada is a regular hellhole, proper Sodom and Gomorrah in the eyes of conservative Republicans (and in the eyes of extreme right wing Canadians, there are a couple of them in this forum).

Even with a right wing ideologue for the PM, Canada is a much better place than USA.
You're extremely ill-informed:

Is gaybashing on the rise?

Crime per capita?

About 7% fo5r Canada according to StatsCan's figures for 2008, and almost 4% for the States, according to US Bureau of Justice.
 
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Avro

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Buzzymum,
In spite of the utopian and somewhat incorrect view of Canada that SirPorker has, Canada has its problems, too.

No question of that.

Admitting is the first step in addressing it and for the sake of SJP our problems have not been created by the cons alone as he would have anyone believe.

Problems are created by politicians....full stop.
 

SirJosephPorter

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No question of that.

Admitting is the first step in addressing it and for the sake of SJP our problems have not been created by the cons alone as he would have anyone believe.

Problems are created by politicians....full stop.

I never said that problems were created by cons alone, Avro. In fact, seeing that Liberals have been in power much more than Conservatives, they must take the lion's share of the blame for the few problems that we have (and also the lion's share of the credit for so many good things we have going in Canada, for the fact that Canada is one fo the best countries in the world to live in).
 

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I never said that problems were created by cons alone, Avro. In fact, seeing that Liberals have been in power much more than Conservatives, they must take the lion's share of the blame for the few problems that we have (and also the lion's share of the credit for so many good things we have going in Canada, for the fact that Canada is one fo the best countries in the world to live in).

Few problems?

Sure Canada is one of the best to live but so are other Western countries including the USA.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Few problems?

Sure Canada is one of the best to live but so are other Western countries including the USA.


UN carries out a study every year and ranks the counties of the world regarding the quality of life. Canada consistently ranks at the top or near the top as the best place in the world to live.

According to 2009 rankings, Canada ranks 4th in the world, behind Norway, Australia and Iceland (and one has to question Iceland’s ranking, considering the financial problems they have had recently). By comparison, USA comes at no. 13.

Statistics | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)

We have slipped a bit since Harper came to power, we used to be no.1. But we still rank very high, much higher than USA.
 

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Any study, any ranking by the United Nations is to ba taken with a ton of salt.

This is the organization that puts Iran on the subcommittee on women's rights.
This is the organization that censures Israel but supports Zimbabwe.
This is the organization that allows thugs like Hugo Chavez contaminate its floor.
This is the organization that is more deserving of demise than the League of Nations ever was.
This is the organization that constanly berates the country that is gracious enough to let them occupy precious real estate on its shores.
This is the organization that bites the hand that feeds it.

This is the organization that is far too big for its breeches.

An organization that is long overdue for expiration.
 

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Any study, any ranking by the United Nations is to ba taken with a ton of salt.

This is the organization that puts Iran on the subcommittee on women's rights.
This is the organization that censures Israel but supports Zimbabwe.
This is the organization that allows thugs like Hugo Chavez contaminate its floor.
This is the organization that is more deserving of demise than the League of Nations ever was.
This is the organization that constanly berates the country that is gracious enough to let them occupy precious real estate on its shores.
This is the organization that bites the hand that feeds it.

This is the organization that is far too big for its breeches.

An organization that is long overdue for expiration.
What would you replace it with?
 

YukonJack

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petros, the United Nations is an atavistic anachronism, that serves absolutely no useful purpose.

It does not need to be replaced, it needs to be eliminated.
 

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I used to compare countries by certain medical stats like life expectancy and infant mortality, but I don't anymore. Most official journals come with big warnings about differences among methodologies in tallying these stats. These comparisons aren't very useful.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Any study, any ranking by the United Nations is to ba taken with a ton of salt.

This is the organization that puts Iran on the subcommittee on women's rights.
This is the organization that censures Israel but supports Zimbabwe.
This is the organization that allows thugs like Hugo Chavez contaminate its floor.
This is the organization that is more deserving of demise than the League of Nations ever was.
This is the organization that constanly berates the country that is gracious enough to let them occupy precious real estate on its shores.
This is the organization that bites the hand that feeds it.

This is the organization that is far too big for its breeches.

An organization that is long overdue for expiration.

No doubt you don't like the study, since it puts USA so far low in the list.