US threatens to cut annual Egyptian bribe

[earth_as_one]

Must be nice to have it all figured our, eh, Juan? Since you are the moral authority on the subject mabey you could let us know what the solution is.

I wonder what the situation would be if the Jew stayed in the proposed Jewish areas and the Arabs stayed in the proposed Arab areas and there had been no Israeli war of independence, just independence for both peoples? Just imagine for a moment. Its kinda nice...... Now, reality.

You mean treat these people as human beings? That's never been tried. What a novel idea. Its crazy but it just might work

The problem is that as long as people live under oppression and injustice they will fight for freedom and justice.

Two possible solutions can lead to peace.

1) Give these people freedom and justice.

2) Round them up and exterminate them.

Wait a minute, solution #2 was how we ended up with a post WW II Jewish refugee problem, which we solved by giving them someone else's land.

I propose that we create a homeland for Palestinians in Crawford Texas. They can be George Bush's neighbors. Maybe he might invite them over for a barbeque.

 

[earth_as_one]

Z,

Can you reference Juan's post where he said these terrible things about Jews. I never saw it.

 

[earth_as_one]

How about a one state solution? Jews, Muslims, Christians and everyone else living together in peace? If the money which has been spent on trying to kill each other in this conflict had gone toward compensating Jews for what happened in Europe and Palestinians for accepting Jews as neighbors, this would have been settled a long time ago.

As it is now, both sides are too far down a path to mutual destruction to turn back. Eventually areas of Palestine/Israel will be nuked and afterwards the survivors will fight over the radioactive craters.

 

[Unforgiven]

How about a one state solution? Jews, Muslims, Christians and everyone else living together in peace? If the money which has been spent on trying to kill each other in this conflict had gone toward compensating Jews for what happened in Europe and Palestinians for accepting Jews as neighbors, this would have been settled a long time ago.

As it is now, both sides are too far down a path to mutual destruction to turn back. Eventually areas of Palestine/Israel will be nuked and afterwards the survivors will fight over the radioactive craters.

I wonder if it hasn't gone too far for too long to have any lasting peaceful cohabitation. Maybe in a generation or two if they stop the killing and teaching hatred to children, this long and dark history will finally be put to rest.

 

[Phil B]

I wonder if it hasn't gone too far for too long to have any lasting peaceful cohabitation. Maybe in a generation or two if they stop the killing and teaching hatred to children, this long and dark history will finally be put to rest.

They seem to have very long unforgiving memories in that region of the world...

 

[Just the Facts]

You forget, that the Palestinians were already independent. They had lived and farmed on their land for over 1200 years. If you can find anything to justify giving the Jews land that was already owned by the Palestinians, I'd like to see it.

I'm pretty sure we've already shown that, but anyway, here's some more:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf1.html
Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity.
When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to
choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was
adopted:
We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time.
We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical
bonds.6
In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately
suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a
term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries
part of Syria."7
The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement
to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and
that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a
separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told
the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."8
Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a
significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West
Bank.

 

[Just the Facts]

You forget, that the Palestinians were already independent. They had lived and farmed on their land for over 1200 years. If you can find anything to justify giving the Jews land that was already owned by the Palestinians, I'd like to see it.

Sorry, I misread your question. Here's a good start:

The term "Palestinian" is itself a masterful twisting of history. To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Mediterranean tribe, the Philistines ("Invaders" in Hebrew), that disappeared out over almost 3000 years ago. The connection between this tribe and modern day Arabs is nil. Romans, in order to conceal their shame and anger with rebellious regions, changed the references to Judea and Samaria by naming them Palestine.

1. Nationhood and Jerusalem - Israel became a nation in the 14th century B.C.E. Two thousand years before the rise of Islam.
2. Since 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for up to 1,000 years with a continuous Jewish presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.
3. The only Arab dominion since the Arab invasion and conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.
4. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
5. For over 3,000 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.
7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray facing Mecca (often with their backs toward Jerusalem).
8. In 1854, according to a report in the New York Tribune, Jews constituted two-thirds of the population of that holy city. (The source: A journalist on assignment in the Middle East that year for the Tribune. His name was Karl Marx. Yes, that Karl Marx.)
9. In 1867, Mark Twain took a tour of Palestine. This is how he described that land: A desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds. A silent, mournful expanse. We never saw a human.
10. In 1882, official Ottoman Turk census figures showed that , in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141 000 Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab.
11. A travel guide to Palestine and Syria was published in 1906 by Karl Baedeker; estimated the total population of Jerusalem at 60,000, of whom 7,000 were Muslims, 13,000 were Christians and 40,000 were Jews.
12. As the Jews came and drained the swamps and made the deserts bloom, Arabs followed. They came for jobs, for prosperity, for freedom. And, they came in large numbers.
13. In 1922, with what was widely acknowledged as the illegal separation of Transjordan, the Jews were forbidden to settle on almost 77% of the Palestine, while Arab settlement went unrestricted and encouraged by British mandatory authority.
14. Prior to the Second World War Mojli Amin, a member of the Arab Defense Committee for Palestine, proposed the idea "that all the Arabs of Palestine will leave and be divided up amongst the neighboring Arab countries. In exchange for this, all the Jews living in Arab countries will leave and come to Palestine."
15. Did you know that Saudi Arabia was not created until 1913, Lebanon until 1920? Iraq did not exist as a nation until 1932, Syria until 1941; the borders of Jordan were established in 1946 and Kuwait in 1961. Any of these nations that would say Israel is only a recent arrival would have to deny their own rights as recent arrivals as well. They did not exist as countries. They were all under the control of the Turks. Over 80% of the original British Mandate land was given to Arabs without population transfer of Arabs from the land designated for Jews.
16. In 1947, the Jewish state huddled on 18% of the original British Mandate land. The Jews accepted it gratefully. The Arabs rejected it with a vengeance and seven Arab states immediately declared war against Israel.
17. In 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Most of them left in fear of being killed by their own Arab brothers as traitors.
18. Some 850,000 Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab countries, due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.
19. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is claimed to be around 630,000 (where did they get this number?). Based on population census, estimated number of Arabs who left Israel was around 460,000. They were ordered to leave by Arab leaders at the time.
20. From 1948 till 1967 Arabs made no attempt to create a Palestinian state. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated, 58 synagogues in Jerusalem were destroyed and the Jews and Christians were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
21. Arabs began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1964 only, on the initiative of Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat. The idea became popular Arab propaganda tool after Israel re-captured Judea, Samaria and Gaza in the defensive 6-Day War of 1967.
22. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, Arab-Palestinians is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel.
23. Arab refugees INTENTIONALLY were not absorbed or integrated by the rich Arab oil states that control 99.9 percent of the Middle East landmass. They are kept as virtual prisoners by the Arab power brokers with misplaced hatred for Jews and Western democracy.
24. There is only one Jewish state. There are 60 Muslim countries, including 22 Arab ones.
25. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel.
26. Pan-Arabism or the doctrine of Muslim Caliphate declares that all land that used to belong to Muslims must be returned to them. Thus, Spain, for example, must eventually be re-conquered.

http://www.therefinersfire.org/forgotten_facts.htm

 

[Just the Facts]

You mean treat these people as human beings? That's never been tried. What a novel idea. Its crazy but it just might work

It's never been tried by neighboring Arab states. It's not only been tried but done by the Israeli nation since it's inception.

http://shlemazl.blogspot.com/2006/06/brief-history-of-arab-israeli-conflict.html

There is solid evidence that in many cases the Jewish Leadership tried to persuade the Arabs
to stay. They offered reassurances and guarantees to them. For example, at the start of the
Arab offensive on Haifa in early April 1947 around 25,000 Arab civilians fled the area. Jewish
Forces captured Haifa on April 23rd. A British police report dated a few days later observed
that "every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry
on with their normal lives". Golda Meir traveled to Haifa to try to convince them to stay.
However the Arab civilians feared being accused of being traitors and were forced to leave by
their leadership. By the end of the battle over 50,000 Palestinian Arabs had left. This pattern
was repeated all over Israel. Those who did stay were given full citizenship after the War of
Independence ended. Full equality for all Israeli citizens regardless of religion was enshrined in
the Declaration of Independence.
The Arab refugees and their descendants, modern day Palestinians, are not allowed to be
granted citizenship by any Arab country. Those that are present in the Arab countries are not
treated equally.

The problem is that as long as people live under oppression and injustice they will fight for freedom and justice.

Two possible solutions can lead to peace.

1) Give these people freedom and justice.

2) Round them up and exterminate them.

What about your glorious solution....hound and harrass them until they leave, like the Jews of Baghdad:

http://bankingonbaghdad.com/archive/hnn20041018Farhud/7773.html

At about 3 PM, June 1, 1941 everything changed for Iraq's Jews.
No American Holocaust museum pays homage to their tragedy. Holocaust studies have virtually
overlooked the incident and its profound consequences. But the Jews of Baghdad found
themselves caught between Hitler's master plan to dominate Europe and the Arab-Jewish
conflict in Palestine. At stake was the oil Hitler needed to succeed.
That day in 1941, on the Jewish festival of Shavuot, the sight of Jews returning from the
Baghdad airport to greet the returning Regent Abdul al-Ilah, ruler of Iraq, was all the excuse an
Iraqi mob needed to unleash its vengeance.
The attack began at 3 PM, as the Jewish delegation crossed Baghdad's Al Khurr Bridge.
Violence quickly spread to the Al Rusafa and Abu Sifyan districts. The frenzied mob murdered
Jews openly on the streets. Women were raped and infants were killed as their horrified families
looked on. Torture and mutilation followed. Jewish shops were looted and torched. A synagogue
was invaded, burned, and its Torahs destroyed in classic Nazi fashion.

I propose that we create a homeland for Palestinians in Crawford Texas. They can be George Bush's neighbors. Maybe he might invite them over for a barbeque.

That could work. Of course, they'll need a refugee camp, preferably close to the coast, with immunity from Texan State and Federal Laws, with diplomatically immune shipping passages through the Gulf of Mexico. No local, State or Federal officials should be allowed access to the camp.

 

[Just the Facts]

How about a one state solution? Jews, Muslims, Christians and everyone else living together in peace?

Ironically, that's pretty much what there is within Israel. It's in the Palestinian controlled areas that there always seems to be trouble.

 

[#juan]

I have an old atlas that was printed in 1890. Guess what, it shows a blob of land called Palestine. I could care less which particular Caliph or Potentate was running the area, whether it was misguided Turks or misguided Brits or Americans by proxy through the Jews A good percentage of Palestinian Arabs can count their family tree in that country back over 1200 years. The creation of Israel was a dreadful thing to inflict on those people but what the hell.....they're just a bunch of Arabs....with no oil.

 

[Just the Facts]

I have an old atlas that was printed in 1890. Guess what, it shows a blob of land called Palestine. I could care less which particular Caliph or Potentate was running the area, whether it was misguided Turks or misguided Brits or Americans by proxy through the Jews A good percentage of Palestinian Arabs can count their family tree in that country back over 1200 years. The creation of Israel was a dreadful thing to inflict on those people but what the hell.....they're just a bunch of Arabs....with no oil.

The Arabs still got like 83% of that "blob". Where's the problem? What happened to compromise? Why is it all or nothing? Why entirely disregard Israel's right to exist and paint the Arabs as nothing but victims? It's been demonstrated quite clearly in this thread that only a tiny minority of those Arabs can trace their history back 1200 years. A similar tiny minority of Jews can trace their history in the area back 3000 years. So by your reasoning...bye bye Arabs, this land is Jew land.

It just doesn't make any sense.

And as stated already in this thread, before the late 40's-ish, when one spoke of a "Palestinian" one was typically referring to a Jew.

Keep your Atlas, I bet it's good for hours of enjoyment, but it adds nothing to your argument.

Edit: Just curious, does that "blob" include modern day Jordan?

Second Edit: I thought so.

 

[Zzarchov]

Oh and Zzarchov:

http://www.ap-agenda.org/nasser/nasser3.htm

Thank you for confirming my point. Peasants and their feudal lords were brought to heal by their ottoman conquerer's. They refused to register their land to avoid paying taxes, so the state took control of it, they figured nothing bad would ever happen from it.

Too bad their greed to cheat backfired. That is according to your own article.

Later the Feudal lords tried to keep individuals down and again refused to pay taxes. This backfired permanently this time.


Most of the "land stolen" was crown land locals grazed on. Congrats, that is no different than crown land used for farming here too. Its a free privelage, if you wanted it as your own right, buy it. Someone else did (see WWI), so too bad.


Was it in poor taste? Was it cruel and heartless? yep. Was it theft? Nope.

 

[earth_as_one]

I find it amazing that anyone could believe that forcibly removing 800,000 unarmed civilians from homes they have lived in for millenia, confiscating their wealth and property is anything other than theft on a massive scale. Yet you choose to believe Israeli and pro-Israeli sources which claim this isn't true. How credible is that?

Apartheid in the Holy Land

[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Desmond Tutu
Monday April 29, 2002
The Guardian

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In our struggle against apartheid, the great supporters were Jewish people. They almost instinctively had to be on the side of the disenfranchised, of the voiceless ones, fighting injustice, oppression and evil. I have continued to feel strongly with the Jews. I am patron of a Holocaust centre in South Africa. I believe Israel has a right to secure borders.

What is not so understandable, not justified, is what it did to another people to guarantee its existence. I've been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about.

On one of my visits to the Holy Land I drove to a church with the Anglican bishop in Jerusalem. I could hear tears in his voice as he pointed to Jewish settlements. I thought of the desire of Israelis for security. But what of the Palestinians who have lost their land and homes?

I have experienced Palestinians pointing to what were their homes, now occupied by Jewish Israelis. I was walking with Canon Naim Ateek (the head of the Sabeel Ecumenical Centre) in Jerusalem. He pointed and said: "Our home was over there. We were driven out of our home; it is now occupied by Israeli Jews."

My heart aches. I say why are our memories so short. Have our Jewish sisters and brothers forgotten their humiliation? Have they forgotten the collective punishment, the home demolitions, in their own history so soon? Have they turned their backs on their profound and noble religious traditions? Have they forgotten that God cares deeply about the downtrodden?

Israel will never get true security and safety through oppressing another people. A true peace can ultimately be built only on justice. We condemn the violence of suicide bombers, and we condemn the corruption of young minds taught hatred; but we also condemn the violence of military incursions in the occupied lands, and the inhumanity that won't let ambulances reach the injured.

The military action of recent days, I predict with certainty, will not provide the security and peace Israelis want; it will only intensify the hatred.

Israel has three options: revert to the previous stalemated situation; exterminate all Palestinians; or - I hope - to strive for peace based on justice, based on withdrawal from all the occupied territories, and the establishment of a viable Palestinian state on those territories side by side with Israel, both with secure borders.

We in South Africa had a relatively peaceful transition. If our madness could end as it did, it must be possible to do the same everywhere else in the world. If peace could come to South Africa, surely it can come to the Holy Land?

My brother Naim Ateek has said what we used to say: "I am not pro- this people or that. I am pro-justice, pro-freedom. I am anti- injustice, anti-oppression."

But you know as well as I do that, somehow, the Israeli government is placed on a pedestal [in the US], and to criticise it is to be immediately dubbed anti-semitic, as if the Palestinians were not semitic. I am not even anti-white, despite the madness of that group. And how did it come about that Israel was collaborating with the apartheid government on security measures?

People are scared in this country [the US], to say wrong is wrong because the Jewish lobby is powerful - very powerful. Well, so what? For goodness sake, this is God's world! We live in a moral universe. The apartheid government was very powerful, but today it no longer exists. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Milosevic, and Idi Amin were all powerful, but in the end they bit the dust.

Injustice and oppression will never prevail. Those who are powerful have to remember the litmus test that God gives to the powerful: what is your treatment of the poor, the hungry, the voiceless? And on the basis of that, God passes judgment.

We should put out a clarion call to the government of the people of Israel, to the Palestinian people and say: peace is possible, peace based on justice is possible. We will do all we can to assist you to achieve this peace, because it is God's dream, and you will be able to live amicably together as sisters and brothers.
Desmond Tutu is the former Archbishop of Cape Town and chairman of South Africa's truth and reconciliation commission. This address was given at a conference on Ending the Occupation held in Boston, Massachusetts, earlier this month. A longer version appears in the current edition of Church Times.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,706911,00.html

Until these people have freedom and justice they will fight for it.

 

[Zzarchov]

Actually, the information comes from Pro-Palestinian sources. You just have to cut the emotion they throw in there and read what they themselves are saying.

The avoided claiming ownership of their lands to avoid paying taxes, thinking they were cheating the system. The government thus after many decades declared the land Crown Land, then it was sold.

then the current squatters were evicted.

The Moral of the Story? Don't lie, cheat and steal to feed your own greed, it will backfire.

The Palestinians chose many times to deny they owned the land when they would have to pay taxes on it. Then when someone else bought it, all of a sudden they DID own it. Too bad.

Its funny how the things which are the most damning to the Palestinian Message are those espoused by Palestinians when stripped of emotion manipulation.

 

[earth_as_one]

Z, either you are completely wrong or the UN and many international committees which have studied this issue are wrong.

Land ownership of the British Mandate of Palestine

As of 1931, the territory of the British Mandate of Palestine was 26,625,600 dunums, of which 8,252,900 dunums or 33% were cultivable.[44]Official statistics show that Jews privately and collectively owned 1,393,531 dunums of land in 1945.[45] Estimates of the total volume of land that Jews had acquired by May 15, 1948 are complicated by illegal and unregistered land transfers, as well as by the lack of data on land concessions from the Palestine administration after March 31, 1936.[46] According to Avneri, Jews held 1,850,000 dunums of land in 1947.[47] Stein gives the estimate of 2,000,000 dunums as of May 1948.[48]

[edit] Land Ownership by district

The following table shows the land ownership of Palestine by district:
Land ownership of Palestine by district as of 1945 District Arab owned Jewish owned Public and other Acre 87% 3% 10% Beersheba 15% <1% 85% Beisan 44% 34% 22% Gaza 75% 4% 21% Haifa 42% 35% 23% Hebron 96% <1% 4% Jaffa 47% 39% 14% Jenin 84% <1% 16% Jerusalem 84% 2% 14% Nablus 87% <1% 13% Nazareth 52% 28% 20% Ramallah 99% <1% 1% Ramle 77% 14% 9% Safad 68% 18% 14% Tiberias 51% 38% 11% Tulkarm 78% 17% 5% Data from the Land Ownership of Palestine[49]
[edit] Land ownership by type

The land owned privately and collectively by Arabs and Jews can be classified as urban, rural built-on, cultivable (farmed), and uncultivable. The following chart shows the ownership by Arabs and Jews in each of the categories.
Land ownership of Palestine (in dunums) as of April 1st, 1943 Category of land Arab and other non-Jewish ownership Jewish ownership Total Land Urban 76,662 70,111 146,773 Rural built-on 36,851 42,330 79,181 Cereal (taxable) 5,503,183 814,102 6,317,285 Cereal (not taxable) 900,294 51,049 951,343 Plantation 1,079,788 95,514 1,175,302 Citrus 145,572 141,188 286,760 Banana 2,300 1,430 3,730 Uncultivable 16,925,805 298,523 17,224,328 Total 24,670,455 1,514,247 26,184,702 Data is from Survey of Palestine.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...ownership_of_the_British_Mandate_of_Palestine

Z,
I'm more inclined to accept the findings of international panels and experts, than your unsupported opinion.

 

[Just the Facts]

Z, either you are completely wrong or the UN and many international committees which have studied this issue are wrong.


Z,
I'm more inclined to accept the findings of international panels and experts, than your unsupported opinion.

Not really anything there that disputes what Z has been saying. I'm pretty sure we've already posted these population tables...maybe it was another thread.

 

[earth_as_one]

The above aren't population tables but tables showing land ownership before Israel declared independance.

Z claims Palestinians didn't own the land. The link to Wikipedia which references UN sources and studies by international committees shows Z's claims are complete nonsense. Palestinians not only owned land in Palestine, but they also owned a majority of the land in every district including Haifa.

 

[Zzarchov]

No they didn't own it by their own standards and by ottoman records. They lived there, they worked the land, they themselves refused to delcare ownership.

I also wouldn't trust the UN. Compare the number of Jewish states to Muslim ones. The UN is not an unbiased panel.

When a resolution calling for the condeming of Israeli killing of Palestinian children was altered to also condem the killing of Israeli children by Palestinians, it was scraped as one dignitary commented Israeli children are not all guilty.

Your charts also don't show Palestinian owned, it show inhabited, If they owned, there would be records and wouldn't be differing "Estimates". Living on land does not mean you own the land. They could have, they had multiple chances to claim it, they didn't. It is historical record, espoused by the Palestinians themselves (albiet showing them as victims of the Ottomans, who tried to make them pay taxes...how horrid)

Juan linked to this bit of Anti-Israeli spouting :
http://www.ap-agenda.org/nasser/nasser3.htm

Last page, page 4.

Problem, reading it without emotional bias, it validates that the Palestinians have no one to blame but their own greed.

 

[Just the Facts]

The above aren't population tables but tables showing land ownership before Israel declared independance.

Yup, I understand. We've been there, done that. Most of the land was owned by Emirs in Beirut and Damascus. Notice how the category is "Arab AND NON-JEWISH ownership". Obfuscation? This whole line of argument started with me pointing out to #juan that you can't evaluate percentage of land ownership in Palestine like it's suburban Vancouver. You guys are trying to create the impression that so many Arabs were driven from land that was owned by their families for a thousand years. Z and I have clearly demonstrated that that's not the case. That's all.

 

[earth_as_one]

At one time, Lebanon Syria and Palestine were all part of the same country. Europeans sliced up the Ottoman empire after WW I. You argument is like saying that if Quebec separated from Canada, anyone who owned land in Quebec but did not live in Quebec, looses ownership and anyone living on land owned by non-Quebecers also have no right to continue living in Quebec. So they would be deported to a refugee camps on Quebec's borders to make for Francophones coming from all over the world. Pretty screwed up reasoning.

Besides that, it ignores the fact that most Palestinians owned their own homes, business and farms and were driven off the land anyway.