Durka, I hate to disagree with you, but no matter the colour of the political stripe in office in this country. Not one has the balls to right wrongs, enact real justice, nor take on people like Khadr as they should be.If Khadr somehow ends up back in this country, don't think for a second that he will be finished with the judicial system, as more likely then not he will be facing treason charges
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Omar Khadr
Theres a nice traditional Canadian name for you.
Maybe the West will open it's eyes and see that followers of the Islamic faith have only 1 loyalty, and that is to islam, they can't integrate, they complain about the west constantly, they treat women less than human, god forbid that we should open our eyes and see the threat that is posed towards the Western way of life.
As for the Canadian Goverment showing compassion to its citizen...lets just hope they don't allow Shariah law, along with flogging, stoning and every other primitive method that goes hand in hand with the faith, it will be a matter of time before they demand it, afterall, they are taught there is no ''man made law'' only the law of Allah.
Theres a nice traditional Canadian name for you.
Maybe the West will open it's eyes and see that followers of the Islamic faith have only 1 loyalty, and that is to islam, they can't integrate, they complain about the west constantly, they treat women less than human, god forbid that we should open our eyes and see the threat that is posed towards the Western way of life.
As for the Canadian Goverment showing compassion to its citizen...lets just hope they don't allow Shariah law, along with flogging, stoning and every other primitive method that goes hand in hand with the faith, it will be a matter of time before they demand it, afterall, they are taught there is no ''man made law'' only the law of Allah.
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Separation of Church and state is entrenched here there will never be any form of sharia law- they can demand all they want but it will not happen- If it's not good for all, then it is not good for anybody. I have had quite enough of "adapting" to other cultures, if they want to practice their beleifs, fine they may do so in their own way and at their own expense. But whipping, stoning or any other form of cultural corporal punishment will not be tolerated here.
Lester
Recently the Ontario government handed a Moslem organization 2 million dollars to assist their interests in cricket...the game...
Our federal police under pressure from Ottawa have altered the dress uniform to accomodate turbans.
Youngsters who believe the carrying of a knife is a religious "right" are permitted this freedom but at the same time we've heard of a young girls expelled from school for bringing a knife to school to cut her lunch (steak) meal....
Which is more likely...
Immigration to Canada will decrease as climate changes and infertile regions of the earth will blossom and prosper under new climate conditions
Or Canada and all nations will begin to see a dramatic increase in immigration to regions with abundant fresh water and arable land....
Is Canada a participant in the world community or is it Junior USA embracing the belief that the world must conform to western standards of morality and belief....?
Is there a middle ground?
Recently the Ontario government handed a Moslem organization 2 million dollars to assist their interests in cricket...the game...
Our federal police under pressure from Ottawa have altered the dress uniform to accomodate turbans.
Youngsters who believe the carrying of a knife is a religious "right" are permitted this freedom but at the same time we've heard of a young girls expelled from school for bringing a knife to school to cut her lunch (steak) meal....
Which is more likely...
Immigration to Canada will decrease as climate changes and infertile regions of the earth will blossom and prosper under new climate conditions
Or Canada and all nations will begin to see a dramatic increase in immigration to regions with abundant fresh water and arable land....
Is Canada a participant in the world community or is it Junior USA embracing the belief that the world must conform to western standards of morality and belief....?
Is there a middle ground?
That is the general consensus here also, however, with corrupt politicians, the constant demand of muslims, add to the mixture people that don't care for traditional values and christian beliefs, there is always the chance of a ''trial'' section of the nation using this to see how it ''goes''
Furthermore, who would have imagined the Archbishop stating Shariah law in the UK is inevitable and acceptable.
Here is just a little snipet of something I found that shows how these things can arise underneath are very noses:
Today Shariah is finding a new home in Canada. In 1991, an amendment was made to Ontario's Arbitration Act, allowing parties to settle disputes outside the courts. This was supposed to ease the overly-burdened court system and save Ontario taxpayers some money.
What it also did was open the gates in Canada for Shariah law, and a small group of Muslims in Toronto has set up a Shariah arbitration court where the arbiters will make judgments on civil matters such as divorce, inheritance and child custody. After they come to a decision they'll send the finding to a provincial judge for a stamp of approval.
It has already begun I'm afraid.
Civil matters are one thing, but they still must conform to Canadian law- A judgement cannot be biased in the eyes of the court or it cannot be allowed- It must be fair and equal under the law and cannot be altered under the guise of a religious doctrine.
I can't wait till we have shariah law especially the banking part of it. I will wear arab clothing as well and a turban and carry a big sword and eat christian babies, it's a free country and I'll do what I damn well please and the rest of you crown sucking pinheads can eat my sludge.:lol:
Grow up.
I know you're just upset that Chavez's took a major blow when Exxon won a 12 billion dollar freeze of Venezuela Assets. But don't take it out on the ones that can say "We told ya so".
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I assume if civil matters are one thing, you have no problem with Canada currently giving 4 rounds of welfare payments to each of a Muslims wives, yet the canadian goverment will charge childrens parents for any perscription costs they may require, seems fine and dandy and totally unbiased.
Very well put and quite true.
I can sight personal experience with that. Not only does it apply to prescriptions, it also applies to healthcare.
So you are suggesting that Health Canada provide free proscription services to my lawyer for his children's medicine even though he has an income of over a million dollars annually?
To me there is a difference between supporting a contributing member of society, and just supporting a complete burden.
And I believe ET is in England, and I'm not mistaken there social services does not support prescription meds.
I could be wrong, but being what I believe to be the case, that would be my marker for my support of his commentary.
And will would note, if you weren't a narrow minded Socialist, that I stated I could be wrong.
See, unlike you, I do not think I'm right all the time.
But you'll have to supply some supporting documentation, as I trust you as far as I can throw my house.
I believe that perscription medicine for any child under 16 or in full time education should be free of charge, and if you weren't living next to America comparing your health system to their appalling health system, you would most likely have a different view.
The Canadian government gets away with a lot by just pointing to the American system and saying ''well this is what could be happening''
From what I can tell, if you have countless children, don't work, marry a Native, leave school early, you get a free ride in life, where as people like your ''Lawyer'' who studied hard, applied themselves to their goals, are expected to pick up the tab, I disagree, peopel should be encouraged to work and have stable families, not punished because they achieved something with their life.
Yes CdnBear, I was in Canada visiting my in-laws and my son needed antibiotics, as they have dual citizenship, i was a little amazed to learn i had to pay $300 for my then 10month old sons perscription, if it were myself, then ok, but a child?....... my whole point is, surely rather than paying Mohammed Abduhl Musaki welfare to each of his ''4'' wives, it would be better spent ensuring every child was entitled to free health care.
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The most annoying thing about my experience, the Dr decided at the end of the course it was the wrong perscription so I had to get another, again at my expense due to his incompetence.
I get ya.
And I agree. Not based on what ancestral nationality, not on what religion, for it matters not. What actually matters is the fact that no matter what ones social position, abuse of one system and the lack of support on another, is a monumental flaw.
Lets say for instance one does not have a cushy Union benefit package, and earns an income outside the coverage of social assistance.
Any incurred additional health related cost, above that covered by the Canadian Healthcare system, would be a burden.
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I'm surprised the 'fear and loathing' crowd didn't get that part of our assertions. Me thinks me smell the narrow minded, mind set of ideological blinders.
Even when our beliefs merge and seem partnered, they can't get over themselves and their tripe long enough to concede we have a commonality.
Pathetic really.
Our system is a little different. We have insurance that pays for most if not all the costs for prescription drugs for dependants through employer benefit packages. For those with an income so low they don't qualify, usually social assistance recipients, drug costs are covered by the province.
What we don't do is give a free ride to anyone visiting the country as it leads to people entering Canada just to get free health care. There is already a huge problem with that, which has put a strain on an already stressed system.
As well I suggest to you that the shenanigans our government gets away with is solely due to the apathy of Canadians towards government rather than our proximity to the Yanks.
I disagree with the last paragraph, if you knew how absurd some charges, or sections of the Canadian Health system were compared to other countries, you would certainly be far from impressed, insurance is all very well, but as my Mother In-law who has a heart condition and requires certain medications, not only do the goverment not cover some of this, but hers and her husbands insurance also refuse to cover this, leading to excessive bills every quarter, though I don't wish to get in to a debate highlighting the flaws throughout the Canadian health system.
However the main point i raised was, why should anyone need insurance to cover childrens health care? I am led to believe the ''cut-off'' for free perscriptions is approx $30k, if this is true, which i admit I am uncertain, this is an obscenely low income to start charging people for their childrens health. I may be over privileged with the health system we have in place in Britain, but a country as developed as Canada should be more concerned about it's own ''people'' than a Muslims 4 wives, therefore I think a little expenditure on childrens health coverage could surely be mustered.
In a nut shell, Canada cover your childrens health care and forget about welfare for Mohammed and his legion of wives!