US Government is Closed!

captain morgan

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Tober was expressing an opinion without trolling anyone. I you want to turn the discussion into toxic waste, I can't stop you. However, it is possible to conduct forums without every discussion degrading into 'insult central".
If you don't like what the man writes, put him on ignore.


Yet you somehow believe that contributions like your one below have any substance?


site troll site troll............
 

hunboldt

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Yet you somehow believe that contributions like your one below have any substance?

In this case- certainly. Asking for decorum doesn't make anyone a 'net nanny'.. Do you believe your regular bind defense of every Mega corporation that distroys Canadian jobs is justified, just because you got embedded in one?
 

EagleSmack

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"Debt" doesn't necessarily = spending. Quite the mess Obama was left with, isn't it?

Six years in and still trying to blame Bush. Tards are so funny

Nonsense. This is nothing but a partisan American response. Sad for somebody who claims to be Canadian. The GOP has never stopped calling n!gger n!gger since the day Obama was elected. Given the obstructive and destructive Republican behaviour he has never been given an opportunity to negotiate.

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Typical tard ranting. Not getting their way so they pull the race card.

Doesn't work anymore.
 

petros

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Are US Customs, Immigration, DHS and Border Patrol still on the job or is it a perfect time to make a run for the border?
 

petros

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They are essential employees, but they are not getting paid so I doubt they are to happy. Piss'em off and you're definitely getting a cavity search. :lol:
They are probably walking the 200m to the Canadian side to eat dinner at the CBSA agents houses.
 

tober

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Well that sounds like the aboriginal problem in Canadu they are also disporportionatly represented in Canadian prisons does that mean myself and the majority of my countrymen are racist? And for every black or non white incarcerated in an American prison I can find you 10 black or non white American citizen living in the lap of luxury.

I challenge the relevance of your paragraph above. You cannot lump US blacks and other "non-whites" into the same group. The other non-whites were never owned as slaves and do not form the same demographics as blacks.

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I can also do the same with Canadian natives.

America and Canada both have aboriginal issues. The jailing issue is part of the causual effect of law and poverty. But Canada's problems are not rooted in the same causes as America's. Canada did not commit genocide on Indians with the army. Nor did Canada own blacks or lynch them US style. America is a more violent society than Canada, always has been and probably always will be. Violence is at the root of many US problems.

Man money talks and bull sh-- walks and sorry all you have is bull sh-- Get a job and grow up.

Challenging you to think has an interesting effect. Right wing no doubt.
 
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EagleSmack

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I love how jealous Tober is. Compensating he is. lol

I challenge the relevance of your paragraph above. You cannot lump US blacks and other "non-whites" into the same group. The other non-whites were never owned as slaves and do not form the same demographics as blacks.

American Indians did.

You FAIL



America is a more violent society than Canada, always has been and probably always will be. Violence is at the root of many US problems.

 

tober

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I may be a troll but I don't write pap like this.
the dream of a work ethic was invented by the upper class who didn't do anything yada yada.
He is in no way describing the Canada live in.

Your "other side of the tracks" education is showing. Did you ever study the history of labour, in Europe or North America? Do you know what the Euro-culture was like pre-Industrial Revolution and how the Industrial Revolution changed it? Do you know the hows and whys of what you were taught in school, and how the dominant ideology was contained in your education? Do you think that the history you learned was "The Truth", or just one ideological version of it? Did you know that in the ongoing class struggle the US middle class was deliberately shrunk by about 40% between 1980 and now, and Canada's is under attack too?

I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks so to speak,and know far to many self made people to believe this class b.s.

Poor boy. So now that you consider yourself to be on the way up, you feel obliged to stick up for the Upper Class? After all, you're part of them now and they welcome you in, correct?

If you don't like your lot in life better it.

Interesting that you should make such a comment to a total stranger of whom you know nothing. Apparently something I wrote makes you feel angry and threatened. Have I made you question whether you are really upper class in Canada? Here's one way to judge. It has been written that over 85% of Canada's economy is owned/controlled by approximately five to seven families. Are they your kin? If not, you are just one more plebeian Canadian. You're one of us commoners, whether you like it or even believe it. Denial will get you nowhere.

I am interested in what everyone has to say, and read every post . Ignore doesn't allow me to read the stupid pap that some posters like to spout.
But come on really work ethic was created by the upper classes.If that was the case we would still be living in caves.
One must call a spade a spade.Where is Spade anyway?

There is zero logic to what you just wrote, none that you posted anyway. You obviously know nothing of the modern definition of "class" and what it means economically. By all means keep looking at the world through a hotdog and beer lens. There is no need for anybody else to restrict them-self to your reading list.
 

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I am interested in what everyone has to say, and read every post . Ignore doesn't allow me to read the stupid pap that some posters like to spout.
But come on really work ethic was created by the upper classes.If that was the case we would still be living in caves.
One must call a spade a spade.Where is Spade anyway?

Getting others to do the heavy hauling by a select few has been around probably as long as we've been living in organized societies, are you saying that it's not possible or even likely that those in the position to do aren't going to do their level best to maintain a social structure that puts their interests first.

I think your grasp of human nature isn't that firm.
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by pgs
I am interested in what everyone has to say, and read every post . Ignore doesn't allow me to read the stupid pap that some posters like to spout.
But come on really work ethic was created by the upper classes.If that was the case we would still be living in caves.
One must call a spade a spade.Where is Spade anyway?

Getting others to do the heavy hauling by a select few has been around probably as long as we've been living in organized societies, are you saying that it's not possible or even likely that those in the position to do aren't going to do their level best to maintain a social structure that puts their interests first.

I think your grasp of human nature isn't that firm.

I don't doubt his knowledge of human nature man-to-man, as much as his education and ability to recognize reality. He is probably a middle class right-wing tradesmen who hates unions and thinks he earns as much as he earns "because he deserves it".
 

Cobalt_Kid

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I don't doubt his knowledge of human nature man-to-man as much as his education and ability to recognize reality. He is probably a middle class right wing tradesmen who hates unions and thinks he earns as much as he earns "because he deserves it".

There's a really good book about this called The Self Made Myth.

Basically most of the wealth comes from common efforts like baseline science and technology development and a few people cream off most of the benefits and create legends about the self-made man to justify it.
 

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I love how jealous Tober is. Compensating he is. lol

Tober has a typical attitude of someone denied entry into the U.S. and now scorned, pissed off at the USA.. He's probably excluded because of a drug charge or criminal conviction, or living there as an illegal and he got busted. (He's not white enough) ;)

So now his nationalism is his only fall back.. I know of a few folks like that..

Guy with a drug charge, buys a Big Rig and heads to California.. They block him from access to the USA, he loses his contract, and he's stuck with a bank payment.. one day he is all pro-American, the week after he was hoping for another 9/11. :roll:

He tried to get a waiver, but was still denied.

Lot's of losers like that here in Canada.

They learn the hard way, the USA NEVER FORGETS!!
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Tober has a typical attitude of someone denied entry into the U.S. and now scorned, pissed off at the USA.. He's probably excluded because of a drug charge or criminal conviction, or living there as an illegal and he got busted. (He's not white enough) ;)

So now his nationalism is his only fall back.. I know of a few folks like that..

Guy with a drug charge, buys a Big Rig and heads to California.. They block him from access to the USA, he loses his contract, and he's stuck with a bank payment.. one day he is all pro-American, the week after he was hoping for another 9/11. :roll:

He tried to get a waiver, but was still denied.

Lot's of losers like that here in Canada.

They learn the hard way, the USA NEVER FORGETS!!

There's nothing more humorous than online psychological analysis, I guess if you've nothing substantive to offer then opinions still let you participate.
 

B00Mer

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..and another Anti-American born.

There's nothing more humorous than online psychological analysis, I guess if you've nothing substantive to offer then opinions still let you participate.

E for Effort?? :lol:

Tober has attacked everyone he thinks is a US Citizen, and even if they are not, he insults them by calling them American.. lol Goober is now a US Citizen, did ya know? (at least in Tober's mind)

His hatred of American's matches Water's hatred towards Obama. :)
 

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His hatred of American's matches Water's hatred towards Obama.
I have no hatred toward simple-minded BHO; it's his policies that suck. And the name is Walter, unless of course you are talking about someone named Water, then mea culpa..
 

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There's nothing more humorous than online psychological analysis, I guess if you've nothing substantive to offer then opinions still let you participate.

I know this Doc that does online work. I can send your posts for analysis if you wish.
 

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Looks like Keystone XL and Harper may be part of the GOP actions to close down the US government.

Tom Steyer: Was There ‘Collusion' Between Harper, GOP On Keystone?

An outspoken billionaire critic of the Keystone XL pipeline wants to know whether there was “collusion” between the Harper government and Republicans to make approval of the Keystone XL pipeline a key factor in the U.S. government shutdown.

“In the debt ceiling debate, the Republicans asked for very, very, very few things but one of them was approval of the Keystone pipeline,” Tom Steyer, founder of hedge fund Farallon and a prominent Democratic Party fundraiser, told BNN.

“That was right after Prime Minister Harper said he would not take no for an answer with regards to Keystone.”

Harper did say he wasn't taking no for an answer and the GOP is including Keystone approval as part of a deal to raise the debt ceiling. So this may really be about oil.