Update on Micheal Jackson

[mt_pockets1000]

A good friend of mine died last week. One of the nicest people I knew. He will be missed greatly by friends and family alike. His mark will be felt for years to come among his close knit group.

But Michael Jackson did something to the world that can never be replaced. He showed people how to overcome your demons, rise above them and shine your light over the earth with a beacon so strong it cannot be denied. The pure outpouring of love from his fans around the world are a strong testament to the power of this individual. They have been dancing in the streets of New York for 4 days now in celebration of his life and his contribution to the entertainment industry.

Johnny Cash was a great songwriter in his own right. I've played in a few rock bands that would pull out the odd JC tune and we'd rock the house with it. Folsum Prison Blues still brings people to their feet. But I don't see a lot of kids holding Cash up as a model example to aspire to if they want to become a success in the industry. He certainly couldn't dance. His singing was questionable at times but the deep timbre and tone is what caught peoples attention. That and the great storytelling in his lyrics.

 

[JLM]

A good friend of mine died last week. One of the nicest people I knew. He will be missed greatly by friends and family alike. His mark will be felt for years to come among his close knit group.

But Michael Jackson did something to the world that can never be replaced. He showed people how to overcome your demons, rise above them and shine your light over the earth with a beacon so strong it cannot be denied. The pure outpouring of love from his fans around the world are a strong testament to the power of this individual. They have been dancing in the streets of New York for 4 days now in celebration of his life and his contribution to the entertainment industry.

Johnny Cash was a great songwriter in his own right. I've played in a few rock bands that would pull out the odd JC tune and we'd rock the house with it. Folsum Prison Blues still brings people to their feet. But I don't see a lot of kids holding Cash up as a model example to aspire to if they want to become a success in the industry. He certainly couldn't dance. His singing was questionable at times but the deep timbre and tone is what caught peoples attention. That and the great storytelling in his lyrics.

Johnny Cash was born in 1932, Jackson in 1958, totally diffent sets of contempories, Johnny's knew things like depression, war, poverty and hard labour, M.J.'s knew about silver spoons, draft dodging, doing you own thing, with Johnny's there was pride, with M.J.'s there was "the world owes me a living".

 

[mt_pockets1000]

Bah, Cash was a druggie just like a lot in the entertainment world. He was not without his demons. And what's this 'doing your own thing' I see you write all the time. You have a problem with 'doing your own thing'? You would rather he conformed to someones elses ideas? From all that i've read and heard about Jackson he threw himself at his work with unwavering strength and pride.

I was 3/4 of the way through the book Man In Black when Johnny Cash died. That was a surreal experience.

 

[JLM]

Bah, Cash was a druggie just like a lot in the entertainment world. He was not without his demons. And what's this 'doing your own thing' I see you write all the time. You have a problem with 'doing your own thing'? You would rather he conformed to someones elses ideas? From all that i've read and heard about Jackson he threw himself at his work with unwavering strength and pride.

I was 3/4 of the way through the book Man In Black when Johnny Cash died. That was a surreal experience.

Yes Johnny did have his demons for awhile and thanks partly to June Carter, he got over it. "Doing your own thing" became popular in 1968, but the people who were "doing it" were mainly on welfare.

 

[talloola]

It sure is apples and oranges. What Cash did is completely different from what MJ did. There are a lot of great songwriters. Merle Haggard is probably the best songwriter of them all, but I don't think he'll get his 2 weeks of CNN when he passes either. MJ did a lot of of different elements in and around the music that changed it and moved the bar for the industry and next generation.

Country music is 'truly' north american, the world has never grasped that music
like it has 'rock', I would never expect that amount of response from any country
music artists death, so can't compare response between each type of entertainer.
And the drug use doesn't pick it's type of music, it seems they all did it, and still
do it.
What's the matter with these freaks, can't they 'think' without getting stoned.
What's the matter with the brain they were born with, and the learning they
did while growing up, then, 'bam' all of a sudden they are 'head bangers', but
oh such great artists, gaining respect from fans, wierd. They have the ability
to entertain, but no common sense, they need so much attention, and act like
morons in real life, and that fact has never left my thought process, I would
rather watch my grass grow than stand up and cheer for such people.
(but I've done it now and then over the years, hoping that the artists I was
watching were 'clean'.) probably not.
My daughter and I went to a 'Neil Diamond' concert many years ago, she was
about 15, and the guy sitting next to her offered her a 'joint', and her and I
burst into laughter, he had no idea that I was a/her mother, I didn't look much
older than late teens myself in those years.

 

[mt_pockets1000]

It might surprise you to know Talloola that country music got it's roots from the long suffering slaves of the deep south, like Leadbelly, who wrote and sang about their sorry state in life. This music was the early blues. Early country music singers like Pat Boone tried to emulate the black music but to no avail. It always came across as stiff and sterile. What did Pat Boone know about suffering at the hands of a slave owner?

 

[#juan]

It might surprise you to know Talloola that country music got it's roots from the long suffering slaves of the deep south, like Leadbelly, who wrote and sang about their sorry state in life. This music was the early blues. Early country music singers like Pat Boone tried to emulate the black music but to no avail. It always came across as stiff and sterile. What did Pat Boone know about suffering at the hands of a slave owner?

Pat Boone was not a country music singer, nor was he early. He was a pop singer. The originators of country music were people like Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Wilf Carter, Kitty Wells, Roy Acuff, Red Foley, The Carter Family, and many others. Johnny Cash was also a late comer who gained a bit of fame when he branched into pop music.
Country music singers wrote about their horse or their pick-up truck or their cheating girlfriend or whatever.

 

[Cannuck]

The event often referred to as the birth of country music took place in 1927 in Bristol, Tennessee. Victor Records set up a temporary recording studio. During these sessions, which came to be known as the "Bristol Sessions," recording were made of Jimmie Rodgers and the Carter Family, who would become country music's first major stars.

That being said, I've managed to uncover film footage of the exact time and place of the first "real" country recording. The singer looks remarkably like George Clooney btw.

YouTube - Constant Sorrow

 

[#juan]

A little of that goes a long way....

 

[TenPenny]

The event often referred to as the birth of country music took place in 1927 in Bristol, Tennessee. Victor Records set up a temporary recording studio. During these sessions, which came to be known as the "Bristol Sessions," recording were made of Jimmie Rodgers and the Carter Family, who would become country music's first major stars.

That being said, I've managed to uncover film footage of the exact time and place of the first "real" country recording. The singer looks remarkably like George Clooney btw.

YouTube - Constant Sorrow

That was a classic song.

That whole movie was great - to think it's just a retelling of Homer's story makes it even moreso.

Michael Jackson was talented. Sick and crazy, but talented. I didn't like any of his music, but I'll agree that he was talented.

 

[JLM]

Pat Boone was not a country music singer, nor was he early. He was a pop singer. The originators of country music were people like Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Wilf Carter, Kitty Wells, Roy Acuff, Red Foley, The Carter Family, and many others. Johnny Cash was also a late comer who gained a bit of fame when he branched into pop music.
Country music singers wrote about their horse or their pick-up truck or their cheating girlfriend or whatever.

Your knowledge is good there Juan, yep Johnny was a relative "Johnny Come Lately", of course the "King of Country Music" was Roy Acuff, but who knows where the "Singing Brakeman" would have ended up had T.B. not claimed him at age 36. Ray Price and Hank Thompson certainly deserve honourable mention as typical C & W singers. Hank Williams, like Jimmie Rodgers was another tragic figure, so obsessed with booze.

 

[Kreskin]

Pat Boone was not a country music singer, nor was he early. He was a pop singer. The originators of country music were people like Hank Williams, Hank Snow, Wilf Carter, Kitty Wells, Roy Acuff, Red Foley, The Carter Family, and many others. Johnny Cash was also a late comer who gained a bit of fame when he branched into pop music.
Country music singers wrote about their horse or their pick-up truck or their cheating girlfriend or whatever.

My dad played fiddle with Hank Snow's band for a couple of years. He said his personality was like a magnet, both on and off stage. What bands like that did well was read an audience and adjust their song selection to it. Most songs rarely practiced. They were pros not a bunch of kids out of central casting along with a producer calling the shots.

 

[Risus]

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But Michael Jackson did something to the world that can never be replaced. He showed people how to overcome your demons, rise above them and shine your light over the earth with a beacon so strong it cannot be denied.

How the hell did he show anyone how to overcome your demons, etc. ????? What a crock.

 

[JLM]

My dad played fiddle with Hank Snow's band for a couple of years. He said his personality was like a magnet, both on and off stage. What bands like that did well was read an audience and adjust their song selection to it. Most songs rarely practiced. They were pros not a bunch of kids out of central casting along with a producer calling the shots.

I went to a Hank Snow concert in Revelstoke 43 years ago, I think actually Hank had the best voice of all the C & W singers but the concert was a big disappointment to me, other No names performed for the first hour and a half and then Hank came out and sang a couple of songs about his mother and that was it

 

[JLM]

How the hell did he show anyone how to overcome your demons, etc. ????? What a crock.

This is turning into a real comedy show. It's time someone took a serious look at the general population, maybe us fellers who were raised during the 40s and 50s got it all wrong, but at least we didn't spend our lives whacked out on drugs. I guess both the justice system and the medical system has made $millions on the man and money trumps everything.

 

[Kreskin]

I went to a Hank Snow concert in Revelstoke 43 years ago, I think actually Hank had the best voice of all the C & W singers but the concert was a big disappointment to me, other No names performed for the first hour and a half and then Hank came out and sang a couple of songs about his mother and that was it

They were probably half gassed. Lots of serious drinking.

 

[darkbeaver]

Yes Johnny did have his demons for awhile and thanks partly to June Carter, he got over it. "Doing your own thing" became popular in 1968, but the people who were "doing it" were mainly on welfare.

Wasn't doing your own thing popular with pioneers?

 

[darkbeaver]

That was a classic song.

That whole movie was great - to think it's just a retelling of Homer's story makes it even moreso.

Michael Jackson was talented. Sick and crazy, but talented. I didn't like any of his music, but I'll agree that he was talented.

One of my favourites both the music and the movie.

 

[JLM]

Wasn't doing your own thing popular with pioneers?

Probably, but I don't think they lined up at the welfare office.....:lol::lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

Probably, but I don't think they lined up at the welfare office.....:lol::lol:

No but they did line up for barn building bees, harvests, fires, quilting and teaching, they knew that the welfare of all ensured the welfare of one. I know what you mean, it ain't like that enough these days.:smile: