Well Petros, I really don't know what you're talking about. I've NEVER declared a religion nor have I said I was an atheist. You have really "lost it" with regards to what is happening in the ME. Any particular reason? Google is your friend. Find out for yourself why Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia et al won't take any of the Palestinians. I've read that Egypt MIGHT take some from Gaza but I'll believe it when I see it. You should also look in the dictionary what is considered "genocide." If anything, it's Hamas who want to do genocide on Israel. THINK MAN & don't let "feelings" get in your way. What you need are facts.
UNRWA. It's like this...
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You quoted my reply to RCS.
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Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Elements of the crime
The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. The latter is less common but still possible. The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.
The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:
A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.
Importantly, the victims of genocide are deliberately targeted - not randomly – because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention (which excludes political groups, for example). This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.”
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Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Elements of the crime
The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. The latter is less common but still possible. The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.
The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:
A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.
Importantly, the victims of genocide are deliberately targeted - not randomly – because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention (which excludes political groups, for example). This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.”
Which is exactly what is happening in Israel - JEWS ARE BEING TARGETTED!You quoted my reply to RCS.
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Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Elements of the crime
The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. The latter is less common but still possible. The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.
The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:
A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.
Importantly, the victims of genocide are deliberately targeted - not randomly – because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention (which excludes political groups, for example). This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.”
Are they? Why? Who is? Give details.
Are you aware that Isrsael has attacked 12 nations?
Only one has attacked Israel without provocation or in retaliation.......Yemen.
The other day I was asking for your statute of limitations, but never got an answer I thought. So the 1948 one doesn’t count? That’s the limit? 1949-1967 counts, etc…?
Its up to you if want to include the Israeli declaration of independence and their attack on Palestinians aka Nakba and the response to it as well as thats on you.
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-177019/
Hamas for one & Hezbollah for two & Yemen for 3. And what 12 nations have Israel attacked recently? Hmm other than Quatar - I wouldn't have approved that & have consistently said that Israel isn't perfect; that they make mistakes.
But of course, everything you have stated is the ACTUAL FREAKING TRUTH! Riiight! There is nothing, according to you, that Israel does correctly including trying to save their country. Ignorance is not bliss.
Israel has conducted military attacks—ranging from full-scale invasions and wars to airstrikes, bombings, and targeted operations—against 12 distinct sovereign countries since its founding in 1948. This count excludes the occupied Palestinian territories (Gaza and the West Bank), which are not internationally recognized as a sovereign state. The tally is based on documented conflicts, reprisal operations, and recent escalations up to September 2025, drawing from historical records and conflict data. Note that some actions were defensive responses to attacks on Israel, while others were preemptive or aimed at proxy threats; interpretations vary by source.
Key Countries and Examples of Attacks
Here's a breakdown of the 12 countries, grouped chronologically with representative operations:
1940s–1960s (Early Wars and Reprisals)
Egypt: Invaded in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War and 1956 Suez Crisis; multiple reprisal raids in the 1950s–60s against fedayeen bases.
Jordan: Clashes in 1948 war; reprisal operations in the 1950s–60s targeting infiltrations.
Lebanon: Initial 1948 war involvement; Operation Litani invasion (1978, but roots in earlier skirmishes); reprisals in the 1950s–60s.
Syria: 1948 war; reprisal operations in the 1950s–60s; Six-Day War (1967) preemptive strikes.
1970s–1980s (Major Regional Conflicts)
Iraq: Bombing of Osirak nuclear reactor (1981, Operation Opera).
2000s–2010s (Proxy and Targeted Strikes)
Tunisia: Airstrike on PLO headquarters in Tunis (1985, Operation Wooden Leg).
2020s (Ongoing Escalations Post-October 2023)
Yemen: Airstrikes on Houthi targets, including Hodeidah port (2024) and Sanaa airport (2025).
Iran: Direct strikes on consulate in Damascus (2024); escalated to full war with nuclear/military site bombings (June 2025, Operation Rising Lion).
Qatar: Airstrike on Hamas compound in Doha (September 2025).
This list focuses on direct state-on-state actions, excluding covert operations (e.g., alleged assassinations in Sudan) or indirect support (e.g., via proxies). The total reflects a pattern of engagements tied to the Arab–Israeli conflict, Iranian influence, and non-state actors like Hamas and Hezbollah. As of September 2025, active fronts include Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria, with over 35,000 recorded Israeli attacks across the region since October 2023.
Even though this will never be read here it goes for attacks on Israel.
To determine how many countries have attacked Israel without first being attacked by Israel, we need to consider documented conflicts where a sovereign state initiated military action against Israel without prior Israeli aggression against that state. This excludes actions against non-state actors (e.g., Palestinian groups, Hezbollah) unless clearly state-sponsored, and focuses on direct, unprovoked attacks.
Based on historical records and conflict data up to September 2025, five countries fit this criterion: Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen.
Below is the analysis.
Key Countries and Context of Attacks
These countries initiated military actions against Israel without Israel first attacking them in the specific conflict context:
Egypt:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Egypt, alongside other Arab states, attacked the newly declared State of Israel on May 15, 1948, the day after its independence. No prior Israeli attack on Egypt occurred.
Egypt’s invasion aimed to prevent Israel’s establishment, marking it as an unprovoked attack in this context.
Jordan:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Jordan’s Arab Legion attacked Israeli forces and Jerusalem areas on May 15, 1948, without prior Israeli aggression against Jordan.
Jordan’s actions were part of the coordinated Arab invasion following Israel’s declaration of independence.
Syria:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Syria attacked northern Israel (e.g., Degania kibbutz) on May 15, 1948, without prior Israeli strikes on Syrian territory.
Like Egypt and Jordan, Syria’s attack was part of the Arab coalition’s response to Israel’s formation.
Iraq:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Iraqi forces entered Palestine and attacked Israel in May 1948, without prior Israeli military action against Iraq.
Iraq, lacking a shared border with Israel, joined the Arab coalition’s offensive.
Yemen:
2023–2025 Houthi Attacks: Starting in October 2023, Yemen’s Houthi movement, widely recognized as a state actor due to their control over significant Yemeni territory, launched missile and drone attacks on Israel (e.g., Eilat strikes). These began without prior Israeli attacks on Yemen.
Israel’s first airstrikes on Yemen (e.g., Hodeidah port, July 2024) were in response to these Houthi attacks, confirming Yemen’s initiation.
Exclusions and Clarifications
Lebanon: Lebanon participated minimally in the 1948 war, with limited shelling, but no significant unprovoked attack. Later conflicts (e.g., 1978, 1982) involved Israeli invasions or Hezbollah, not state-led attacks. Thus, Lebanon is not counted.
Iran: Iran’s direct attacks (e.g., April 2024 missile/drone barrage) followed Israeli strikes, such as the Damascus consulate bombing. Earlier proxy actions via Hezbollah or Hamas complicate attribution, but no clear unprovoked state attack is documented.
Other Arab States (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Libya): Minor involvement in 1948 or later wars (e.g., 1973) was either negligible or followed Israeli actions, so they are excluded.
Context of 1967 and 1973 Wars: The 1967 Six-Day War involved Israeli preemptive strikes on Egypt, Jordan, and Syria, so these countries’ actions were responses, not initiations. In 1973, Egypt and Syria attacked first, but Israel had occupied their territories (Sinai, Golan Heights) since 1967, making these attacks reactive, not unprovoked.
Notes
The count focuses on sovereign states, excluding non-state actors like Hamas or Hezbollah unless explicitly state-backed (e.g., Houthis as Yemen’s de facto government).
“Attacked” refers to direct military actions (invasions, airstrikes, missile launches). Covert or proxy actions are harder to attribute definitively.
The 1948 war is the primary case, as it involved coordinated, unprovoked attacks by Arab states. Yemen’s Houthi attacks post-2023 add a modern case, driven by solidarity with Palestinians, not prior Israeli aggression against Yemen.
Sources include historical accounts of the Arab–Israeli wars and recent conflict data (e.g., Houthi attacks reported up to 2025).
Final Count: 5 countries (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Yemen) attacked Israel without first being attacked by Israel in the specific conflict context.
To determine how many countries have attacked Israel without first being attacked by Israel, we need to consider documented conflicts where a sovereign state initiated military action against Israel without prior Israeli aggression against that state. This excludes actions against non-state actors (e.g., Palestinian groups, Hezbollah) unless clearly state-sponsored, and focuses on direct, unprovoked attacks.
Based on historical records and conflict data up to September 2025, five countries fit this criterion: Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen.
Below is the analysis.
Key Countries and Context of Attacks
These countries initiated military actions against Israel without Israel first attacking them in the specific conflict context:
Egypt:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Egypt, alongside other Arab states, attacked the newly declared State of Israel on May 15, 1948, the day after its independence. No prior Israeli attack on Egypt occurred.
Egypt’s invasion aimed to prevent Israel’s establishment, marking it as an unprovoked attack in this context.
Jordan:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Jordan’s Arab Legion attacked Israeli forces and Jerusalem areas on May 15, 1948, without prior Israeli aggression against Jordan.
Jordan’s actions were part of the coordinated Arab invasion following Israel’s declaration of independence.
Syria:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Syria attacked northern Israel (e.g., Degania kibbutz) on May 15, 1948, without prior Israeli strikes on Syrian territory.
Like Egypt and Jordan, Syria’s attack was part of the Arab coalition’s response to Israel’s formation.
Iraq:
1948 Arab–Israeli War: Iraqi forces entered Palestine and attacked Israel in May 1948, without prior Israeli military action against Iraq.
Iraq, lacking a shared border with Israel, joined the Arab coalition’s offensive.
Yemen:
2023–2025 Houthi Attacks: Starting in October 2023, Yemen’s Houthi movement, widely recognized as a state actor due to their control over significant Yemeni territory, launched missile and drone attacks on Israel (e.g., Eilat strikes). These began without prior Israeli attacks on Yemen.
Israel’s first airstrikes on Yemen (e.g., Hodeidah port, July 2024) were in response to these Houthi attacks, confirming Yemen’s initiation.
Exclusions and Clarifications
Lebanon: Lebanon participated minimally in the 1948 war, with limited shelling, but no significant unprovoked attack. Later conflicts (e.g., 1978, 1982) involved Israeli invasions or Hezbollah, not state-led attacks. Thus, Lebanon is not counted.
Iran: Iran’s direct attacks (e.g., April 2024 missile/drone barrage) followed Israeli strikes, such as the Damascus consulate bombing. Earlier proxy actions via Hezbollah or Hamas complicate attribution, but no clear unprovoked state attack is documented.
Other Arab States (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Libya): Minor involvement in 1948 or later wars (e.g., 1973) was either negligible or followed Israeli actions, so they are excluded.
Context of 1967 and 1973 Wars: The 1967 Six-Day War involved Israeli preemptive strikes on Egypt, Jordan, and Syria, so these countries’ actions were responses, not initiations. In 1973, Egypt and Syria attacked first, but Israel had occupied their territories (Sinai, Golan Heights) since 1967, making these attacks reactive, not unprovoked.
Notes
The count focuses on sovereign states, excluding non-state actors like Hamas or Hezbollah unless explicitly state-backed (e.g., Houthis as Yemen’s de facto government).
“Attacked” refers to direct military actions (invasions, airstrikes, missile launches). Covert or proxy actions are harder to attribute definitively.
The 1948 war is the primary case, as it involved coordinated, unprovoked attacks by Arab states. Yemen’s Houthi attacks post-2023 add a modern case, driven by solidarity with Palestinians, not prior Israeli aggression against Yemen.
Sources include historical accounts of the Arab–Israeli wars and recent conflict data (e.g., Houthi attacks reported up to 2025).
Final Count: 5 countries (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Yemen) attacked Israel without first being attacked by Israel in the specific conflict context.