University of Alberta’s $17,500 security fee on pro-life event gags free speech

[CDNBear]

I haven't a clue how much it would cost for security during an outdoor event such as this one, Bear. Maybe it is punitive, maybe not but the group was given the option of holding their demonstration in a more secure area. If they are that dedicated to the cause one might think that getting their message out took precedence over where it would be held.

Or other choices are like the pages just before the classifieds in print media.

 

[Nick Danger]

Looked, can't find the word "demonstration" applied to the pro life group, in the article. Did find "educational display" though. That was obstructed by a "demonstration" the year prior.

Sorry if that confused you, "display" was the word used in the original article.

There's no doubt where your sympathies lie here, but if we don't really know exactly what security measures the University was contemplating it's hard to judge whether or not those charges were justified. The fact that security would be required though, goes without saying. It's hard not to see the "educational display" as being deliberately antagonistic, at its very roots the pro-life movement is an attempt to force one narrow view of religious morality on society as a whole. Given the passionate and rebellious nature of youth it would be naive not to expect some manner of backlash.

 

[gerryh]

I haven't a clue how much it would cost for security during an outdoor event such as this one, Bear. Maybe it is punitive, maybe not but the group was given the option of holding their demonstration in a more secure area. If they are that dedicated to the cause one might think that getting their message out took precedence over where it would be held.

What the University is saying is, You can either hide somewhere inside the buildings where we can control who see's and doesn't see your message, or you pay for "security" so that we can control who can see or not see your display.

 

[Nick Danger]

Geez, you're like Ezra Levant in how you just make stuff up.

Glad to see you're on to the fiction that is Ezra Levant. There's hope for you yet.

 

[CDNBear]

Sorry if that confused you, "display" was the word used in the original article.

I wasn't confused by your trash journalism.

There's no doubt where your sympathies lie here

I really have to hear where you think my sympathies lay.

The fact that security would be required though, goes without saying. It's hard not to see the "educational display" as being deliberately antagonistic, at its very roots the pro-life movement is an attempt to force one narrow view of religious morality on society as a whole.

Do you blame rape victims too?

Given the passionate and rebellious nature of youth it would be naive not to expect some manner of backlash.

When my son was in high school he led a protest against the banning of the confederate flag. Without violence, destruction of private property, or any other cost.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Sorry if that confused you, "display" was the word used in the original article.

There's no doubt where your sympathies lie here,

My sympathies lie the same place as Bear's, and I'm pro-abortion.

I just don't like folks trying to quash free speech and interchange of ideas.

 

[CDNBear]

Glad to see you're on to the fiction that is Ezra Levant. There's hope for you yet.

I actually already made it quite clear I think Levant makes stuff up sometimes.

Maybe you should learn to read.

 

[MHz]

Because those are the only type of people who feel life begins at conception.

More like they are the only group that naturally keeps their numbers from getting to large that others deem them to be a danger to mankind as a whole.

 

[Nick Danger]

Maybe you should learn to read.

As soon as you learn some manners.

(I won't hold my breath)

 

[CDNBear]

As soon as you learn some manners.

(I won't hold my breath)

So where do my sympathies lay?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So where do my sympathies lay?

Lie.

Love, the Grammar Nazi

 

[CDNBear]

Lie.

Love, the Grammar Nazi

Ok, you're really starting to get me thinking about my boundaries, belts, Nazi's. So much foreplay material there.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ok, you're really starting to get me thinking about my boundaries, belts, Nazi's. So much foreplay material there.

You are perhaps interested in fighting the Battle of the Bulge, Herr Kanadian?

 

[Nick Danger]

So where do my sympathies lay?

To the extreme right?

 

[CDNBear]

To the extreme right?

Funny how when someone champions for free speech they're always considered to be extreme right.

 

[Nick Danger]

I get that you think the security charges are punitively large, but we really don't know how they got to that number do we? Free speech is one thing, but if one creates a hazard in exercising that right who should foot the bill in addressing that hazard?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I get that you think the security charges are punitively large, but we really don't know how they got to that number do we? Free speech is one thing, but if one creates a hazard in exercising that right who should foot the bill in addressing that hazard?

The government. Without discrimination. It's the price of freedom.

 

[CDNBear]

I get that you think the security charges are punitively large, but we really don't know how they got to that number do we? Free speech is one thing, but if one creates a hazard in exercising that right who should foot the bill in addressing that hazard?

What Tech said, and I'll add, the ones who create the hazard. Putting up a display isn't creating a hazard.

I don't think it's punitively large, I said it's punitive.

Do you blame rape victims too?

 

[Nick Danger]

The government. Without discrimination. It's the price of freedom.

So send them the bill.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So send them the bill.

I see the problem now. You don't understand that the University of Alberta is a government organization.

OK, why don't you go play in the sandbox? Grown-ups talking here.