United Nations Inept, Corrupt and Indifferent

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Inept, Corrupt and Indifferent

Recently the leader of the free world, George W. Bush went to the United Nations, yet again, to address the general assembly. He implored the rest of the world to act responsibly and help in curtailing the Islamic fascists, who are now boldly killing school children in Russia, beheading construction workers in Iraq, bombing brazenly with suicide bombers the very fabric of society that is decent. Instead of producing engineers and doctors, and social workers, the disgruntled and oppressed Muslim world has been producing suicide bombers and hate mongers, in great numbers. To be fair to the weaker sex, they are now showing equality by unleashing female suicide bombers (more expendable?). They have been at it for more than a decade at New York, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kenya, Tanzania, and more recently in Bali, Jakarta, Moscow, Madrid and Istanbul. The Islamo-fascists regard Western civilization and modernity as antithesis to its religion and culture.
The civilized world is appalled at the brutality with which they execute their plans and then hide behind the religion calling it the holy war, as if the term jihad will exonerate them in front of God. But there is very little protest from the moderate mainstream Muslims, who are silently watching their religion maligned and hijacked by fanatics. The United Nations is as guilty as the Muslim population in not reacting properly to this new menace that is triggering death and mayhem of innocent people all around the world. Now the new target of terrorism is the innocent children (Beslam and Baghdad) and most of the world is content in watching the horror.
Only after the September 11 tragedy has the United States looked at this problem with any seriousness. What had been dismissed as small groups of disenfranchised oppressed groups of people, now turned out be well funded machinations of widespread Islamic radicalism. However, most of the world still is reticent. They have not lifted even a finger to come to the aid of some thirty countries that are bearing the burden of this global war on terrorism. George W. Bush did not speak of machismo or blood and iron in the United Nations. Instead his was more of Wilosnian idealism with promises of help and admission that the United States had erred in the past by siding with the wrong heads of states.
For half a century the United States and European countries had supported autocratic right wing dictatorship in the Middle East, cynically arguing that the alternative of an unstable Middle East was more dangerous. The West was only interested in continuous flow of oil and keeping the Communists out of the Middle East. President Bush not only renounced such past opportunism, but also confessed that "for too long, many nations, including my own, tolerated, even excused, oppression in the Middle East in the name of stability." He promised not complacency that ensures continual oppression, but radical changes that lead to freedom.
But Bush emphasized that the times have changed and it is time for a new course of action if the new threat of terrorism is to be quelled. Take the fight to the enemy and not wait for events to occur and casualties to mount before responding. The task is not easy and the world needs to be united and only a concerted effort by the civilized world can make it safe for our children to live in this world. George W. Bush also extended his country’s help to the oppressed population of the world. He beseeched the help of all civilized countries in combating trafficking of humans for prostitution and offered 15 billion dollars to fight AIDS in Africa.
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How did the United Nations respond to the speech of George W. Bush? The leader of Iraq’s interim government, a week later also stressed the importance of the world body coming to aid Iraq in fighting terrorism and institute a nascent democracy. He begged for patience and assured that the slow process of democratization of Iraq will eventually bear fruit. Yet the United Nations, the great world body created to bring peace and to disseminate aid to suffering people showed only tepid response. The United Nations has been hijacked by nations that are clearly against the United States and its ideals. Otherwise how do you explain the Libyans as the chair of Human rights commission in the year 2003? The 53 member commission on human rights has had Algeria, Cuba, Iran, Vietnam and Zimbabwe as their members. President Bush’s speech was met with embarrassing, meek applause and stony faces in the general assembly. Even before his speech, the Secretary General Kofi Anan preempted him by declaring the Iraq war illegal to a BBC interviewer. Many of the oppressors Mr. Bush was referring to in his ambitious speech about spreading democracy around the world were sitting stone faced in the audience!
The world body created to fight poverty and injustice around the world was silent when Saddam Hussein and his minions unleashed his horrors on his own population. Slobodan Milosevic thumbed his nose against the world body and continued his ethnic cleansing with impunity. The barbaric Taliban regime was another embarrassment to the United Nations when it showed its disregard for civility and dragged Afghanistan to medieval times and mistreated women and girls. The civil war in Rwanda and Burundi had claimed half a million lives and the United Nations was silent. Now there is genocide in progress in Sudan and the august world body can not even come to terms with it, let alone having a plan to put an end to it. The only coherent voice coming from the United Nations is its condemnation of Israel. At the behest of autocratic Arab nations around the tiny democracy, more than half the resolutions passed by United Nations in the last few decades are against Israel.
Containment of Saddam Hussein and oil for food program suited Kofi Anan and the United Nations well. The scandal which is being investigated now, ever so slowly, may land in his own door steps and his son’s company may have profited illegally from the program. Hence the stone walling and non cooperation. Now the tyrant has been deposed and the people of Iraq are free for the first time in three decades and this should have been cause for celebrations. Yet United Nations has acted as if a democratically elected man has been removed from office to the detriment of the people.
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What has happened to United Nations? It is not the same United Nations of decades past, helping the poor nations with hunger, and sending troops around the world to keep the peace. Gone are the days when UNESCO and UNICEF provided selfless service around the world to fight disease and famine. Now it is a political body with a different agenda. Its membership is rife with tyrannies, theocracies and Stalinist regimes (Victor Davis Hanson, writing in The Wall Street journal).
United Nations is obsessed with Israel and its policy on the West Bank while it ignores the Communist China even as it refuses to deal with Tibet, a country it annexed with no serious consequences. The same goes to its lack of direction regarding the nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran. It is actively trying to dumb down the reaction of the world to the genocide occurring in Sudan. All the while, the United Nations is not tongue tied when it comes to be critical of the United States or Israel.
The United States is prepared to view the world with a different lens. France and Germany as well as Russia are not viewed as our steadfast allies. There is a distinct change in world order. Even the rationale of the membership of the sacred Security Council in the United States is being questioned. Why so much power and authority to communist countries like China and Russia? What is the role of France in maintaining world peace? Why shouldn’t India (the largest democracy in the world) and Japan (a strong democracy since the World War II) replace some of the old guard countries in this changing world, in the Security Council? Does France deserve to be in the Security Council? Is it possible to recall the Secretary General Kofi Anan for incompetence and pushing the world body to the liberal left? How can the good name of United Nations be restored and attention turned again towards peace and fighting starvation, especially among the children of the world? Why should repressive countries be given a place at the table to oversee Human Rights?
“So Americans' once gushy support for the U.N. during its adolescence is gone. By the 1970s we accepted at best that it had devolved into a neutral organization in its approach to the West, and by the 1980s sighed that it was now unabashedly hostile to freedom. But in our odyssey from encouragement, to skepticism, and then to hostility, we have now reached the final stage--of indifference. Americans do not get riled easily, so the U.N. will go out with a whimper rather than a bang. Indeed, millions have already shrugged, tuned out, and turned the channel on it.”
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Victor Davis Hanson, a military historian, senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, writing in The Wall Street Journal on September 23, 2004
What good does the United Nations do if it cannot reign in Iran’s nuclear ambitions? Or expose North Korea’s arsenal of nuclear bombs? What good is the world body if it cannot condemn acts of persecution of the innocent people in Darfur, Sudan? It can not even bring its members to agree on sanctioning the Sudanese government, let alone agreeing on calling the killings genocide. Russia that sells war planes to Sudan and China that has oil interests (both members of the Security Council) will not support such ‘harsh language’! Will the United Nations change its ways and be aggressive in promoting and maintaining peace around the world? Or will it continue its policies of burying its head in the sand and cater to the radical members, who have hijacked a noble world body that once stood for justice and peace? The direction the United Nations has taken in recent decades shows that it is on a path towards self destruction.

It is time to abandon United Nations and send it in the path of erstwhile League of Nations. It is time to form a world body, perhaps modeled after North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) with membership consisting of only democratic countries that value human rights. Peace can only be attained by military might in this new world of terrorism. That is the only way to assure that the world body does not deteriorate into another United Nations.
Neria Harish Hebbar, MD
October 2, 2004
 

crit13

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When the UN appoints countries such as China and Libya to look after human rights issues, it should be obvious to all that the UN has lost its way.
 
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tracy

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I don't argue the UN has tremendous problems. The question is, what do you suggest we replace it with? Nothing at all? Another type of body?

Who will take over its role in international health I wonder?
 

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Whoever wrote that piece is a sociopath at LEAST, WOW I am so glad it isn't "real" :D

But April fools was last sunday, what gives??

Sadly mabudon, it's all fact.
I don't argue the UN has tremendous problems. The question is, what do you suggest we replace it with? Nothing at all? Another type of body?

Who will take over its role in international health I wonder?

I think the Boy Scout/Cubs of America could do much better.
 

Zzarchov

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I think the problem here is people misunderstanding what the UN is.


Its a forum to discuss things. it is NOT a world government. No nation has ever agreed to cede any sovereignty to the UN. Nor should they.

It is really only the UN's business to get involved when there is virtually consensus. Which considering the rest of the world does not share our views nor they ours, is pretty rare.
 

CDNBear

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I think the problem here is people misunderstanding what the UN is.


Its a forum to discuss things. it is NOT a world government. No nation has ever agreed to cede any sovereignty to the UN. Nor should they.

It is really only the UN's business to get involved when there is virtually consensus. Which considering the rest of the world does not share our views nor they ours, is pretty rare.
I would dissagree, the UN has had military forces on the ground in soveriegn nations, without the consent of that Nation. That is acting as a "world police force". If they have that ablity, as slight as it may be, it must adhere to a great code of conduct, beyond reproach.

It has failed that miserably.

It has allowed itself to be hijacked by two agendas. The US and its quest for global domination and the Muslim globalization movement. IMHO. Cases can be made for both those dyametrically apposed notions.
 

Tonington

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A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link, the weakest link in the UN is the fact that it rarely is united. It's a gathering of nations more precisely, nations wishing to put their views forward.

There are good parts of the UN. Small pox is gone, the Global Outbreak Alert & Response Network is a worthwhile cause, delivering expertise and technology needed to aid the water scarce areas is worthwhile. Theres a number of things the UN does that don't grab headlines, call it a veto by media twerps more interested in the devious headlines. Feel good stories are pushed to small pieces during the hollidays to make us feel a little better about our neglect all year long.
 

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I got this far before I found something to comment on. "Recently the leader of the free world, George W. Bush went to the United Nations,".
this far Scuse me but if a 'free country' is a democratic one then I'm in one and I've never voted that the US is the leader of the free world.
How effective is the UN, less effective than they could be. The number of resulutions brought up and number that have been acted on is not close to being the same number.
That pretty much takes their teeth away. So forget any role in military invention. Let the 5 who hold veto power do that and bear the expense. That would leave the UN to cover other things, like spreading information, 'the rest' would like at least have a voice that is heard. Right now both Iraq and Iran could be holding open discussions, that are webcast, about marking a boundry simply because there is conflict over its exact location. Anybody interested could watch. The UN's role could be getting that kind of information out on the table.
Having a Nomad out in the desert have access to that kind of information would make sure he is informed about events before he casts a vote on them, rather that getting it after the fact.

Iraq has a vote on a constitution in the near future, I would love to see that opened up for discussion in the UN minus any input from the top 5. A lot of countries have adopted constitutions, their experiences with how well that went vary to some degree. Constitutions also vary from country to country to some degree. I doubt every country would be silent and say 'Yep, it's perfect as is'.
I'm sure that conversation between Saddam and Hugo would have gone on longer if it had been at all possible.
I'm sure many other countries would urge the Iraqi people to demand some changes (without being santioned by the 5) to the constitution before it is voted on by an informed electorate.

Another document that could be 'discussed' is the proposed hydrocarbon law. Compare it's contents to other countries similar 'assets' A 30 - 40 year contract where the company paid to build something also get a shate of the profits that what they built makes (gross). 75% is more than loansharkes charge. It doesn't matter if oil goes to $200/bbl, they still get 75%. If that same Nomad knew that was coming up before he voted which way is he going to vote, he get 75% (nationalised) or 'foreign companies' (privitised) get 75%.

Nor does it matter if the fields actually produce a lot more than estimated, they get 75% of that also even though the only thing that changed is that the pump was left running longer.

Whoever is at the UN from a country might even have some voice-mail from that nomad in the morning.

By preserving the UN as is issues like the above could be brought into the open so nothing can get 'snuck through'. A Native from the West might see some words in Iraq's constitution that is the same wording that was in a treaty his great-grandfather saw signed into being, only to find out it was bull**** in the first place and it was never intended to be honored by one side, the side that offered it.

Had that treaty been webcast to everybody concerned it probably would not have been signed or if signed have had some way of enforcing it was kept as originally intended.

If they can get a net connection to the poorest they can find out for themselves why things are the way they are. How much would it cost to give a nomad a solar powered lap-top with a sat-link?

Or call it a day, period, and everybody go home.
 

tamarin

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As long as the UN is composed of countries whose political systems run the gamut from the democratic to the totalitarian how can you ever expect meaningful consensus and forceful action on global concerns?
 

#juan

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As long as the UN has that dopey system of vetoes, it will never be anything but what it is: A forum where almost any country can at least be heard. Anything seen as the least bit against the political grain of any of the permanent Security Council members will be vetoed. The UN, in spite of all the roadblocks, manages to do some good work.
 

westmanguy

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The UN accomplishes little, its just a front to make it look like we, as a world, are doing something.

Its become corrupt though.
 

#juan

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The UN accomplishes little, its just a front to make it look like we, as a world, are doing something.

Its become corrupt though.

Oh bull$hit....There are governments of countries who are members of the UN who are corrupt. The U.S. has always wanted to destroy the UN because they couldn't control it. They have just about succeeded.