Uncle Tim

[Locutus]

And on it goes...

The Puzzle of Black Republicans



or as sda posits,


Let Me Fix That Headline For You



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/19/opinion/the-puzzle-of-black-republicans.html?_r=0

 

[L Gilbert]

"As Mr. Obama has shown, the question is not whether whites are willing to vote for a black candidate, but whether black candidates can put together winning coalitions (no matter their racial makeup) and around what policies. I suspect black South Carolinians will not be drawn to Mr. Scott.
The trope of the black conservative has retained a man-bites-dog newsworthiness that is long past its shelf life. Clichés about fallen barriers are increasingly meaningless; symbols don’t make for coherent policies. Republicans will not gain significant black support unless they take policy positions that advance black interests. No number of Tim Scotts — or other cynical tokens — will change that. "

Agreed.

Can the supercilious claptrap about race and find people (of any color) that are people of substance.

 

[Locutus]

Greg Gutfeld Calls Out NYT's Op Ed Adolph Reed Jr. For Being a Racist - The Five - 12-20-12 - YouTube

 

[Nuggler]

Good ol Faux News. Thought they had gone away.

 

[TeddyBallgame]

Good ol Faux News. Thought they had gone away.

- Nuggler ... What an extraordinarily ignorant thing to say! In actual fact, Fox News has once again in 2012 and for the 11tgh consecutive year blonw away the cable news competition that is the real faux news presented by the left leaning liberal news channels that are so obviously in the tank for and reaqdy to lie and obfuscate and distort and demonize for Obama and the Democrats that no serious person takes their unbalanced and bogus bunk disguised as news seriously.

- Just so you won't come across quite as ignorantly next time with the people here who are informed, here is the data clearly showing Fox News remarkable domination of cable news again in 2012. If you happen to be susceptible to facts, stats and reason - unlike so many of the left retards here - this might even cause you to think again as to which news newworks are really consistently pitching faux news consistent with an ideoloogical agenda.

December
2012
FOX NEWS CHANNEL DOMINATES CABLE NEWS VIEWERSHIP FOR 11th CONSECUTIVE YEAR
FNC Ranks #3 in Basic Cable Prime Time for 2012
FOX News Channel (FNC) continued to dominate in 2012 as the most-watched cable news channel among both total viewers and Adults 24-54 for the 11th consecutive year, according to Nielsen Media Research. FNC will complete the year with the top 11 programs in total viewership, marking FNC’s second highest-rated delivery ever in total viewers for both Prime Time and Total Day.
Among basic cable networks, FNC ranked third in Prime Time viewership, behind only USA Network and ESPN while eclipsing CNN and MSNBC which rank 29th and 19th, respectively. In Total Day, FNC was fourth among all cable networks, while CNN was 31st and MSNBC ranked 24th.
In Prime Time, FNC continued its ratings supremacy by besting CNN, MSNBC and HLN combined in total viewers with an average of 2,071,000 (up 11%) compared to CNN’s 670,000 (down 3%) and MSNBC’s 913,000 (up 18%). In 25-54 demo, FNC surpassed CNN and MSNBC, clocking in 431,000 viewers (up 1%) while CNN averaged 219,000 (down 1%) and MSNBC averaged 290,000 (up 20%).
In Total Day, FNC commanded the lead in cable news for both categories with an average of 1,158,000 in total viewers (up 8%). Meanwhile, CNN notched 408,000 (down 15%), which nearly matched MSNBC’s 498,000 (up 15%). In the key demographic, FNC delivered 276,000 (up 1%) compared to CNN’s 131,000 (down 18%) and MSNBC’s 166,000 (up 12%).
Also, FNC claimed the top 11 programs in cable news based on total viewers and eight of the top 10 programs in Adults 25-54. FNC’s The O’Reilly Factor was the top ranked show in both total viewers (2,973,000) and Adults 25-54 (578,000). Rounding out the top five programs in total viewers include: Hannity (2,299,000); Special Report with Bret Baier (1,950,000); On The Record with Greta Van Susteren (1,867,000) and The Five (1,830,000). In the key demographic, the remaining top ranked programs are: Hannity (503,000); On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (413,000); FOX Report with Shepard Smith (390,000) and Special Report with Bret Baier (389,000).
FNC’s key daytime news programming was up across the board. In addition, FNC’s signature morning show Fox & Friends and the late night show Red Eye delivered their highest-rated year ever in total viewers. The O’Reilly Factor, FOX & Friends and America’s Newsroom all ranked number onein all of basic cable within their individual time slots

 

[Locutus]

Adolph is still a racist regardless of who reports what he said.

 

[damngrumpy]

The problem for the Republicans is that its not whether someone is black or white its what
they stand for. The vast majority of black voters and many other groups from Hispanics to
Middle Class white voters is policy
Rant all you want on the right, people want the social safety net programs, retired folks want
their entitlements pensions medicare and other programs.
You can have every constituency targeted for interest, unless you reach out with good
social programs and agree taxing the rich is on the agenda, you won't get elected at the
Federal level that was just demonstrated.
People look at the map, rural America is conservative, that is a given, the social agenda
religious crowd is conservative that too is a given. Look at the heavily populated areas now.
Minorities, heavily centered senior citizen areas, well educated middle class white areas
all of these voted for Obama, and the Democrats. They don't want the conservative doctrine
when it comes to the issues of the day.
The voters want something different than what the Republicans are offering and still they can't
see their position is a minority one. Like this holding out on the fiscal cliff issue. People will
blame the Republicans and why. The Democrats are able to define the Republicans better
than the Republicans can. It is not about who you are, its about who the people think you are
and if that is the case Republicans can name all the minorities they want to office, it won't make
any difference because people want programs not what the conservatives are offering.

 

[relic]

Re #4,and take faux news north,aka tory tv,with 'em.

 

[taxslave]

- Nuggler ... What an extraordinarily ignorant thing to say! In actual fact, Fox News has once again in 2012 and for the 11tgh consecutive year blonw away the cable news competition that is the real faux news presented by the left leaning liberal news channels that are so obviously in the tank for and reaqdy to lie and obfuscate and distort and demonize for Obama and the Democrats that no serious person takes their unbalanced and bogus bunk disguised as news seriously.

- Just so you won't come across quite as ignorantly next time with the people here who are informed, here is the data clearly showing Fox News remarkable domination of cable news again in 2012. If you happen to be susceptible to facts, stats and reason - unlike so many of the left retards here - this might even cause you to think again as to which news newworks are really consistently pitching faux news consistent with an ideoloogical agenda.

December
2012
FOX NEWS CHANNEL DOMINATES CABLE NEWS VIEWERSHIP FOR 11th CONSECUTIVE YEAR
FNC Ranks #3 in Basic Cable Prime Time for 2012
FOX News Channel (FNC) continued to dominate in 2012 as the most-watched cable news channel among both total viewers and Adults 24-54 for the 11th consecutive year, according to Nielsen Media Research. FNC will complete the year with the top 11 programs in total viewership, marking FNC’s second highest-rated delivery ever in total viewers for both Prime Time and Total Day.
Among basic cable networks, FNC ranked third in Prime Time viewership, behind only USA Network and ESPN while eclipsing CNN and MSNBC which rank 29th and 19th, respectively. In Total Day, FNC was fourth among all cable networks, while CNN was 31st and MSNBC ranked 24th.
In Prime Time, FNC continued its ratings supremacy by besting CNN, MSNBC and HLN combined in total viewers with an average of 2,071,000 (up 11%) compared to CNN’s 670,000 (down 3%) and MSNBC’s 913,000 (up 18%). In 25-54 demo, FNC surpassed CNN and MSNBC, clocking in 431,000 viewers (up 1%) while CNN averaged 219,000 (down 1%) and MSNBC averaged 290,000 (up 20%).
In Total Day, FNC commanded the lead in cable news for both categories with an average of 1,158,000 in total viewers (up 8%). Meanwhile, CNN notched 408,000 (down 15%), which nearly matched MSNBC’s 498,000 (up 15%). In the key demographic, FNC delivered 276,000 (up 1%) compared to CNN’s 131,000 (down 18%) and MSNBC’s 166,000 (up 12%).
Also, FNC claimed the top 11 programs in cable news based on total viewers and eight of the top 10 programs in Adults 25-54. FNC’s The O’Reilly Factor was the top ranked show in both total viewers (2,973,000) and Adults 25-54 (578,000). Rounding out the top five programs in total viewers include: Hannity (2,299,000); Special Report with Bret Baier (1,950,000); On The Record with Greta Van Susteren (1,867,000) and The Five (1,830,000). In the key demographic, the remaining top ranked programs are: Hannity (503,000); On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (413,000); FOX Report with Shepard Smith (390,000) and Special Report with Bret Baier (389,000).
FNC’s key daytime news programming was up across the board. In addition, FNC’s signature morning show Fox & Friends and the late night show Red Eye delivered their highest-rated year ever in total viewers. The O’Reilly Factor, FOX & Friends and America’s Newsroom all ranked number onein all of basic cable within their individual time slots

Shows that a lot of americans would rather watch a reality show than real news. SOme of them are really funny.

 

[L Gilbert]

- Nuggler ... What an extraordinarily ignorant thing to say! In actual fact, Fox News has once again in 2012 and for the 11tgh consecutive year blonw away the cable news competition that is the real faux news presented by the left leaning liberal news channels that are so obviously in the tank for and reaqdy to lie and obfuscate and distort and demonize for Obama and the Democrats that no serious person takes their unbalanced and bogus bunk disguised as news seriously.

- Just so you won't come across quite as ignorantly next time with the people here who are informed, here is the data clearly showing Fox News remarkable domination of cable news again in 2012. If you happen to be susceptible to facts, stats and reason - unlike so many of the left retards here - this might even cause you to think again as to which news newworks are really consistently pitching faux news consistent with an ideoloogical agenda.

December
2012
FOX NEWS CHANNEL DOMINATES CABLE NEWS VIEWERSHIP FOR 11th CONSECUTIVE YEAR
FNC Ranks #3 in Basic Cable Prime Time for 2012
FOX News Channel (FNC) continued to dominate in 2012 as the most-watched cable news channel among both total viewers and Adults 24-54 for the 11th consecutive year, according to Nielsen Media Research. FNC will complete the year with the top 11 programs in total viewership, marking FNC’s second highest-rated delivery ever in total viewers for both Prime Time and Total Day.
Among basic cable networks, FNC ranked third in Prime Time viewership, behind only USA Network and ESPN while eclipsing CNN and MSNBC which rank 29th and 19th, respectively. In Total Day, FNC was fourth among all cable networks, while CNN was 31st and MSNBC ranked 24th.
In Prime Time, FNC continued its ratings supremacy by besting CNN, MSNBC and HLN combined in total viewers with an average of 2,071,000 (up 11%) compared to CNN’s 670,000 (down 3%) and MSNBC’s 913,000 (up 18%). In 25-54 demo, FNC surpassed CNN and MSNBC, clocking in 431,000 viewers (up 1%) while CNN averaged 219,000 (down 1%) and MSNBC averaged 290,000 (up 20%).
In Total Day, FNC commanded the lead in cable news for both categories with an average of 1,158,000 in total viewers (up 8%). Meanwhile, CNN notched 408,000 (down 15%), which nearly matched MSNBC’s 498,000 (up 15%). In the key demographic, FNC delivered 276,000 (up 1%) compared to CNN’s 131,000 (down 18%) and MSNBC’s 166,000 (up 12%).
Also, FNC claimed the top 11 programs in cable news based on total viewers and eight of the top 10 programs in Adults 25-54. FNC’s The O’Reilly Factor was the top ranked show in both total viewers (2,973,000) and Adults 25-54 (578,000). Rounding out the top five programs in total viewers include: Hannity (2,299,000); Special Report with Bret Baier (1,950,000); On The Record with Greta Van Susteren (1,867,000) and The Five (1,830,000). In the key demographic, the remaining top ranked programs are: Hannity (503,000); On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (413,000); FOX Report with Shepard Smith (390,000) and Special Report with Bret Baier (389,000).
FNC’s key daytime news programming was up across the board. In addition, FNC’s signature morning show Fox & Friends and the late night show Red Eye delivered their highest-rated year ever in total viewers. The O’Reilly Factor, FOX & Friends and America’s Newsroom all ranked number onein all of basic cable within their individual time slots

Logical fallacy similar to argumentum ad popularum. (I'm not going to look up the specific argument, but it's basically a non sequitur that says just because something is popular, it does not mean it's very good.)

The problem for the Republicans is that its not whether someone is black or white its what
they stand for. The vast majority of black voters and many other groups from Hispanics to
Middle Class white voters is policy
Rant all you want on the right, people want the social safety net programs, retired folks want
their entitlements pensions medicare and other programs.
You can have every constituency targeted for interest, unless you reach out with good
social programs and agree taxing the rich is on the agenda, you won't get elected at the
Federal level that was just demonstrated.
People look at the map, rural America is conservative, that is a given, the social agenda
religious crowd is conservative that too is a given. Look at the heavily populated areas now.
Minorities, heavily centered senior citizen areas, well educated middle class white areas
all of these voted for Obama, and the Democrats. They don't want the conservative doctrine
when it comes to the issues of the day.
The voters want something different than what the Republicans are offering and still they can't
see their position is a minority one. Like this holding out on the fiscal cliff issue. People will
blame the Republicans and why. The Democrats are able to define the Republicans better
than the Republicans can. It is not about who you are, its about who the people think you are
and if that is the case Republicans can name all the minorities they want to office, it won't make
any difference because people want programs not what the conservatives are offering.

Also, if society did not have social ills, the neo-conservatism and conservatism ideas could work quite well. Unfortunately, most cons can't think past their partisanship to realize that societies' ills can't be dissected from the rest and stuck on a shelf somewhere to be ignored.