Ukraine Prime Minister Azarov submits resignation

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Not civil no. There will be nothing civil about punting Russians from Ukraine.
Try punting the US out once they have their bases installed, for their benefit rather than for the benefit of the people of the Ukraine. You will see the same kind of response that you see in Bahrain.
 

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Try punting the US out once they have their bases installed, for their benefit rather than for the benefit of the people of the Ukraine. You will see the same kind of response that you see in Bahrain.
The US? What makes you think the US has the money to do anything in Ukraine when they can't pay the bills at home?
 

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Are you saying Ukraine wants to keep on being f*cked over by Russia?
Those nasty Russians with their $15B loan and 30% cut in gas prices where the US wants to up the gas price by 40%. That means nothing to the rich which seems to be the only ones you recognize as being 'important'.
 

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Where does Russia get it's food and the coal to make steel and what rail roads do they use to get their goods into the EU?

Botswana?
 

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The US? What makes you think the US has the money to do anything in Ukraine when they can't pay the bills at home?
They take it from their citizens like they have been doing for ages. It's nothing for them to add a $1T in debt to their nation.

(in part)
Amount Each President Added to the Debt per Fiscal Year Since 1960:
President Barack Obama: Added $5.081 trillion, a 44% increase to the $11.657 trillion debt level attributable to Bush's at the end of his last budget, FY 2009.

  • FY 2013 - $672 billion.
  • FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
  • FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
  • FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
  • FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)
President George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.
  • FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. (Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act).
  • FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
  • FY 2007 - $501 billion.
  • FY 2006 - $574 billion.
  • FY 2005 - $554 billion.
  • FY 2004 - $596 billion.
  • FY 2003 - $555 billion.
  • FY 2002 - $421 billion.
President Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32% increase to the $4.4 trillion debt level at the end of Bush's last budget, FY 1993.
  • FY 2001 - $133 billion.
  • FY 2000 - $18 billion.
  • FY 1999 - $130 billion.
  • FY 1998 - $113 billion.
  • FY 1997 - $188 billion.
  • FY 1996 - $251 billion.
  • FY 1995 - $281 billion.
  • FY 1994 - $281 billion.
President George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54% increase to the $2.8 trillion debt level at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.
  • FY 1993 - $347 billion.
  • FY 1992 - $399 billion.
  • FY 1991 - $432 billion.
  • FY 1990 - $376 billion.
President Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, 186% increase to the $998 billion debt level at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981.
  • FY 1989 - $255 billion.
  • FY 1988 - $252 billion.
  • FY 1987 - $225 billion.
  • FY 1986 - $297 billion.
  • FY 1985 - $256 billion.
  • FY 1984 - $195 billion.
  • FY 1983 - $235 billion.
  • FY 1982 - $144 billion.
US Debt by President


And you think somebody that inefficient at managing their own nation's finances should be telling other nations what to do. Shows how deluded you really are

...... when I show them what you write they think how is it possible that people who live here in Canada and the USA can be so stupid .....
Let's see some of their actual comments.
 

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I thought you were up to date on events there. Elect who they want into power and the money trap is sprung.
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EU officials said it was highly unlikely Europe, the United States or anyone else would put the kind of sums mentioned by Turchinov on the table right away. However, smaller bilateral loans, possibly coordinated by the EU, could be used to give short-term help, they added.

$5B and counting.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37599.htm
 
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A link for you to get to reality? See your Dr. What makes you think Ukrainians want a Russian run Govt?
I didn't think you would be able to do it. You are just flapping your gums, as usual. Seems like the pro-Western members now in charge still want cut-rate gas despite trying to get a $35B loan. Talk about hypocrisy. (probably your middle name) It's only $7B more, they can afford it now the US and the EU are involved.

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MOSCOW, February 24 (RIA Novosti) – Ukraine hopes that the price it pays for Russian natural gas will remain unchanged despite the ouster of pro-Russia President Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine’s acting energy minister told Reuters on Monday.

Russia’s state gas giant Gazprom agreed with Ukraine’s Naftogaz in December to slash the price that Ukraine had paid since 2009 by about a third, from about $400 per 1,000 cubic meters to $268.50.

“We hope the price will be stable,” the news agency quoted acting Energy Minister Eduard Stavytsky as saying.

More than half of the 55 billion cubic meters of natural gas consumed by Ukraine each year comes from Russia, according to Reuters.

Stavytsky said in January that Ukraine would discontinue relatively small purchases of natural gas from Europe and instead only buy from Russia.

Ukraine is on the brink of economic collapse following Yanukovych’s ouster on Saturday and the prospect that Russia will renege on billions of dollars in promised loans to the cash-strapped country.

Ukraine’s interim finance minister said Monday that the country is seeking at least $35 billion in urgent aid from Western powers, including the EU and the United States.

Ukraine Hopes Russian Gas Price Won't Change – Report | World | RIA Novosti

This sounds like good advice so that means it will be the last thing the US considers. lol

Gorbachev: Bulldoze EU & US aides from Ukraine and let the people decide - YouTube

It also appears part of the Ukraine will break away, the only part that functioning properly. Oh well the US can up the $5B it has already invested so it doesn't resemble the current US. fat chance lol

Pro-Russian Separatism Rises In Crimea As Ukraine's Crisis Unfolds

They had an elected Government, the US had it overthrown via violence, Russia doesn't have any blood on their hands, the US does. You get dumber as time goes by.
 

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MHz popping another gasket!



Ukraine seeks fugitive leader over 'mass murder'
 

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Didn't Syria teach you anything, the US has to bring in outsiders to kill civilians because the locals keep telling them to **** off when they are tasked with the job so it can be blamed on the ruling Government and I'm not claiming they were squeaky clean. Nice to know you don't mind lying yourself when the facts aren't on your side. Not a huge surprise.

Yemen and Saudi Arabia will gladly build a pipeline to Ukraine. They'll even pay for it.
Fly at it, it would kind of piss Israel off though as they want to service Europe, if they could only get grubby little hands on the gas off Lebanon's coast .
 

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Didn't Syria teach you anything, the US has to bring in outsiders to kill civilians because the locals keep telling them to **** off when they are tasked with the job so it can be blamed on the ruling Government and I'm not claiming they were squeaky clean. Nice to know you don't mind lying yourself when the facts aren't on your side. Not a huge surprise.

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You are so hilarious. Hilarious and completely out in outer space!

Face it... YOU LOST AGAIN!

Your boy is now a fugitive! A Fugitive!

You have again backed the wrong horse.
 

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MHz it is painfully obvious that you are the one who has no clue by twisting the truth that is going on in Ukraine . By your question and answers , which all dodge the real issue ,you are a person with no value and please take that as not a compliment from me.
We talk about an issue that is about freedom and you bring in lies and half truths about an issue you know nothing about and have not stated or shown any facts on other than innuendo and misleading figures which are twisted to meet your ideas . You my fellow human being, and I use that term loosely ,are what is called a puppet who should have no rights and deserve to have what you have in Russia.

If you pay attention , as I am sure you have not , it will be Russian tanks rolling into Ukraine and those my astute fellow are Russian soldiers there in Kiev not American.
MHz if you have the least value of human freedom , which I doubt , you would understand but instead you are towing the Russian line of lies which are about to get many people killed .


Now to put this very simply comrade you need to either bear the proof , not some BS video , or just remain silent which is what I would prefer.