UK Gov In Turmoil & Bexit Mess.

[Serryah]

Wanting a second referendum because you don't like the result of the first is anti-democratic and the action of a fascist regime.

Methinks you need to relearn what "fascist" means and what fascists do.


Protesting a vote result you don't like (or referendum, or whatever) is COMPLETELY democratic. It's part of the whole "Freedom" thing.


Just because YOU don't like it or agree with it, doesn't make it undemocratic.


Actually, your railing against their right TO protest is the undemocratic thing at the moment.

 

[Blackleaf]

 

[Blackleaf]

Methinks you need to relearn what "fascist" means and what fascists do.

Fascist regimes don't like democracy when it doesn't go their way and come up with all sorts of schemes to ensure the people vote the "right" way, such as just ignoring the people's democratic decision or making them vote again.

Those people calling for a second referendum are anti-democrats partaking in fascism-like behaviour.

The EU recently condemned Erdogan for wanting to re-run the Istanbul mayoral election because he didn't like the result. So why doesn't it condemn the anti-democratic Remainer fascists calling for a second EU referendum?

 

[Serryah]

Fascist regimes don't like democracy when it doesn't go their way and come up with all sorts of schemes to ensure the people vote the "right" way, such as just ignoring the people's democratic decision or making them vote again.

Those people calling for a second referendum are anti-democrats partaking in fascism-like behaviour.

The EU recently condemned Erdogan for wanting to re-run the Istanbul mayoral election because he didn't like the result. So why doesn't it condemn the anti-democratic Remainer fascists calling for a second EU referendum?

Are you seriously comparing the protestors of the vote to Erdogan of Turkey?


Effin' really?


You're crazier than normal.


You might have had a point - MIGHT - if the people who wanted another vote had a chance in hell of getting it. But they don't and I guarantee even THEY know that.


Their protesting now isn't just about wanting another vote. It's about the entire issue and how it started, to where it's at now, and now they believe it's suspect.


And for the love of all that's holy, don't you DARE say that Brexiters wouldn't be the same if things hadn't gone their way because that's just ignorance beyond ignorance.

 

[Blackleaf]

Are you seriously comparing the protestors of the vote to Erdogan of Turkey?

Yes, I AM comparing those wanting a second Brexit referendum to Erdogan wanting a second mayoral vote in Istanbul, because both cases are exactly the same: anti-democratic, fascist, behaviour.

 

[Serryah]

Yes, I AM comparing those wanting a second Brexit referendum to Erdogan wanting a second mayoral vote in Istanbul, because both cases are exactly the same: anti-democratic, fascist, behaviour.

Fine.


You're a fascist too.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Fine.
You're a fascist too.

No kidding!

Did your grandad work for Oswald Mosely?

 

[Blackleaf]

Letwin amendment 'boosts chances of no-deal' - No 10

If the Letwin amendment passes, it is "too late" for the government to pull the main vote on the deal, says BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg.

But it can be "negatived", she says - ie if the government doesn't provide tellers or no-one shouts "aye" on the second call then the vote could just come to a halt.

She adds that Downing Street is suggesting the Letwin amendment increases the chances of no-deal happening.

The Letwin amendment would provisionally approve Boris Johnson's Brexit deal, but withhold official support and delay Brexit until the necessary legislation is passed.

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BREAKING

MPs vote on Letwin amendment

The House of Commons is voting on independent MP Sir Oliver Letwin's amendment to the government's motion.

This would withhold parliamentary support for the government's deal unless and until legislation implementing the agreement in UK law is passed by MPs.

If it's passed, it could force the prime minister to seek a further delay to Brexit.

 

[Blackleaf]

Fine.
You're a fascist too.

For wanting a democratic vote to be respected and carried out?

 

[Serryah]

For wanting a democratic vote to be respected and carried out?

Nope, for enforcing your will upon the people - ALL PEOPLE - of Britain when apparently it's not what all the people want.

 

[Serryah]

No kidding!

Did your grandad work for Oswald Mosely?

I have... no clue who that is, lol

 

[Blackleaf]

not what all the people want.

So what?

 

[Serryah]

So what?

Exactly.


Fascist. Forcing your will onto other people.

 

[Blackleaf]

Exactly.
Fascist. Forcing your will onto other people.

That's what happens in a democracy. The majority force their will onto the rest.

 

[Serryah]

That's what happens in a democracy. The majority force their will onto the rest.

And you know what else happens in democracy?


Protests when people don't like the outcome.

 

[Blackleaf]

And you know what else happens in democracy?
Protests when people don't like the outcome.

Campaigning for a second referendum because you don't like the result of the first is anti-democratic and fascist behaviour, just like Erdogan's actions over the Istanbul mayoral election when he called for a second vote - which the EU condemned.

 

[Serryah]

Campaigning for a second referendum because you don't like the result of the first is anti-democratic and fascist behaviour, just like Erdogan's actions over the Istanbul mayoral election when he called for a second vote - which the EU condemned.

There is no comparison between the two, other than a second vote was called and in one instance, it didn't happen, and in the other, it did. BTW, how DID that redo vote of Erdogan's go?



It's TOTALLY democratic, just like it's democratic to protest.



Again, had Brexiters lost, you'd be doing the same and just as whiney.

 

[Blackleaf]

BREAKING

MPs back Letwin amendment

House of Commons

MPs - including the DUP - back Sir Oliver Letwin's amendment to the government motion on the Brexit deal by 322 votes to 306.

The Letwin amendment would provisionally back Boris Johnson's deal but withhold official approval and force a delay to Brexit until all the relevant legislation implementing a withdrawal agreement has been passed.


Defiant Johnson: I won't negotiate Brexit delay

House of Commons

Prime Minister Boris Johnson says the "opportunity to have a meaningful vote has been passed up". He adds that he's not "daunted or dismayed" by MPs backing the Letwin amendment and that he will not negotiate a delay with the EU.

PM: Brexit legislation next week

House of Commons

Boris Johnson says the government will next week introduce legislation needed for Brexit on 31 October. The result of the Letwin amendment vote was "pretty close" and MPs should support his deal with the EU "in overwhelming numbers", he adds.

 

[Blackleaf]

There is no comparison between the two,

They're exactly the same.

 

[Serryah]

They're exactly the same.

So...


The Remainers were in power, lost their vote, used their power to force another vote and lost THAT one too by an even bigger margin, lessening their power hold on the country?


Okay, sure, they're the same...