U.S. summer a global warming preview, scientists say

petros

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But those are just two of their may entitlements.
It's Time For Tim's!

 

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So you recomend we turn land that feed the population into fuel generation instead of using a readily available product that is sitting in the ground? Makes perfect sense, we all starve but hey we got lots of greenie approved fuel to burn.

I remember when ethanol was going to be King until they found out exactly what you pointed out. All that land would be used to produce corn for ethanol and not food. It would be the new oil and that means much $$$ for farmers and less food for surplus to feed starving nations.

Being green is harder than people think. I bet every one of these GW enthusiasts on CANCON lives just just like everyone else. I bet not a one makes any real sacrifice if they sacrifice at all. I ask all the time if they have bought carbon credits and I do not get a response.
 

petros

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I've looked into crushing my own canola to make diesel but;

  1. It's illegal
  2. You can't get fire insurance
  3. I'm better of selling the seed to buy petroleum which is about 50 cents a litre cheaper.
 

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You gave me lies to be quite honest. Clearly the facts do not support you so like a typical Moonbat you create your own "facts" and convince yourself that they are real.

Like Solyndra was "Bush's baby". That is just ridiculous. No basis of reality. The Obama Administration isn't even saying that. You are.



Well Red it is typical for GW enthusiasts to simply want to silence dissent on GW so I can sense your frustration.

If you think the forum is a joke you can always move on. However many of us have been here for years and we aren't likely to leave.

I gave you facts: some of which are contained in your own link. A link that you are obviously too lazy to read abd posted under the impression that it said what you wanted it to say.

I am not posting evidence for you. You can look it up if you are adamant about 'your facts.' Your non existent facts. Your facts that do not agree with any report.

If you do, you will also find that it was Bush who promoted SDolyndra in 2007.
 

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How long is long? 13 months?






Fig. 1. Global geomagnetic models from 1600 to 2005. Geomagnetic field from GUFM1 (validity 1590–1990), IGRF (validity 1900–2010) and CHAOS (validity 1999–2005) models from 1600 to 2000 at steps of 100 years, together with 2005. The surface area of the SAA is evidenced by the white area with field values less than 32,000 nT.


Fig. 2. Surface area of South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA). Surface area of the SAA as measured at Earth’s surface using the 32,000 nT isoline from three geomagnetic global models (GUFM1, IGRF and CHAOS; see text for references) in the interval 1600 to present.

Fig. 3. South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA) area, global sea level and mean temperature anomalies. Surface area of the SAA (thick black line) from GUFM1 and IGRF as compared with the changes in GSL (thin black line) and temperature anomalies (grey line) (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt).

Fig. 4. GSL and SAA linear relationship. Linear regression between global sea level (GSL) and South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA) surface area from 1700 to present. Correlation coefficient is 0.98.
Correlation coefficient of what? You dig up an obscure study that has no connection with climate and ask us to believ that you have discovered a new theory that turns the world on its head.

Get serious! You don't want to earn the scorn that has been poured on yoy already.

How many greenies would give up their Starbucks or Tim's to increase food production on coffee plantations?
Might as well use them for some kind of food roduction since most of them are either no longer capable of coffee produstion or perilously close to that already.
 

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No connection? Obscure? EFG scientist are nobodys? Data collected by NASA and NOOAA is ****ty? If the data used to compile this is wrong then it's just as wrong for your AGW malarky.

South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA) area, global sea level and mean temperature anomalies. Surface area of the SAA (thick black line) from GUFM1 and IGRF as compared with the changes in GSL (thin black line) and temperature anomalies (grey line) (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt).


You're flat out ****ed in the head Poopsie!


P.S. Who funded and wrote the study?
 

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No connection? Obscure? EFG scientist are nobodys? Data collected by NASA and NOOAA is ****ty? If the data used to compile this is wrong then it's just as wrong for your AGW malarky.




You're flat out ****ed in the head Poopsie!


P.S. Who funded and wrote the study?
Look them up. Try to find any commentary on their study.
 

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I remember when ethanol was going to be King until they found out exactly what you pointed out. All that land would be used to produce corn for ethanol and not food. It would be the new oil and that means much $$$ for farmers and less food for surplus to feed starving nations.

Being green is harder than people think. I bet every one of these GW enthusiasts on CANCON lives just just like everyone else. I bet not a one makes any real sacrifice if they sacrifice at all. I ask all the time if they have bought carbon credits and I do not get a response.

If you try very hard to find out something about what you are posting before doing so, on this matter you will observe that ethanol from corn was a political project and not one put forth by those searching for alternatives. It is impractical and not very emission friendly.

But that does not matter to the deniers. It was a sop to them in the first place.
 

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I gave you facts: some of which are contained in your own link. A link that you are obviously too lazy to read abd posted under the impression that it said what you wanted it to say.

I am not posting evidence for you. You can look it up if you are adamant about 'your facts.' Your non existent facts. Your facts that do not agree with any report.

If you do, you will also find that it was Bush who promoted SDolyndra in 2007.

I know that the Obama Administration is trying blame the Bush Administration (once again) on their failures but the facts aren't supporting them. But since when do they need facts right?

Solyndra Hearing: Blame It On Bush, Say Obama Officials - ABC News

An excerpt...

"Republicans pushed back hard against this version of events, unearthing internal Energy Department emails that indicate the panel evaluating the loans had made the unanimous decision to shelve Solyndra's application two weeks before Obama took office."

The Obama Administration gave them the loan anyways.

Too easy



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If you try very hard to find out something about what you are posting before doing so, on this matter you will observe that ethanol from corn was a political project and not one put forth by those searching for alternatives. It is impractical and not very emission friendly.

But that does not matter to the deniers. It was a sop to them in the first place.

Ahhh... more revisionism! Wonderful!
 

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You should not emphasise your ignorance. Bear can't help it.

Oh, I understand the irony in this Cabbage, but your post about Dean Swift was too tempting to not recognize.... Reminds me of a Black Adder episode that discussed the cause of WW1.

"I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry."

Actually, now that I think of it; you're kinda like Baldrick in many regards
 

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It was still a Bush initiative, Bush's baby. The Obama administration did not loans: the authority set up did. As it has done with the $38 billion or so total committed.

See your PWNED and raise you a pawned (what your contribution should be).
 

petros

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Cabbagefarts is still trying to say the study published in the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics isn't true.

Even with it's out of the ballpark 0.98 correlation coefficient.

denier!!!!
 

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It was still a Bush initiative, Bush's baby. The Obama administration did not loans: the authority set up did. As it has done with the $38 billion or so total committed.

See your PWNED and raise you a pawned (what your contribution should be).

Oh moving the goal posts now? LMAO

Trying to tie the Energy Policy Act of 2005 to Obama giving Solyndra the loans in 2009. How desperate can you get. Hey bright one... the money wasn't set up so it could be wasted by future administrations on failed ventures like Solyndra.

I bet you even like that Bush policy don't you?

Keep jumping from foot to foot and do your dance... I am enjoying it immensely!

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