U.S. official says Pentagon committed to understanding UFO origins

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U.S. official says Pentagon committed to understanding UFO origins
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WASHINGTON — Two senior U.S. defence intelligence officials said on Tuesday the Pentagon is committed to determining the origins of what it calls “unidentified aerial phenomena” – commonly termed UFOs – but acknowledged many remain beyond the government’s ability to explain.


The two officials, Ronald Moultrie and Scott Bray, appeared before a House of Representatives intelligence subcommittee for the first public U.S. congressional hearing on the subject in a half century. It came 11 months after a government report documented more than 140 cases of unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAPs, that U.S. military pilots had observed since 2004.

Bray, deputy director of naval intelligence, said the number of UAPs officially cataloged by a newly formed Pentagon task force has grown to 400 cases. Both officials chose their words carefully in describing the task force’s work, including the question of possible extraterrestrial origins, which Bray said defence and intelligence analysts had not ruled out.


Bray did say that “we have no material, we have detected no emanations, within the UAP task force that would suggest it is anything non-terrestrial in origin.”

The 2021 report, a nine-page “preliminary assessment” by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and a Navy-led task force, said 80% of UAP instances it reviewed were recorded on multiple instruments.

Both officials pledged that the Pentagon would follow the evidence wherever it leads and made clear that the primary interest is addressing possible national security threats.

“We know that our service members have encountered unidentified aerial phenomena, and because UAP pose potential flight safety and general security risks, we are committed to a focused effort to determine their origins,” said Moultrie, who oversees the latest Pentagon-based UAP investigation team as U.S. defence undersecretary for intelligence and security.


Bray presented two UAP video clips. One showed flashing triangle-shaped objects in the sky, later determined to be visual artifacts of light passing through night-vision goggles. The other showed a shiny, spherical object zipping past a military aircraft’s cockpit window – an observation Bray said remained unexplained.

The 2021 report included some UAPs revealed in previously released Pentagon video of enigmatic objects exhibiting speed and maneuverability exceeding known aviation technology and lacking any visible means of propulsion or flight-control surfaces. Bray said those incidents, including one described by Navy pilots as resembling flying Tic Tac breath mints, are among cases still categorized as “unresolved.”


Some UAP observations remain unexplained due to a paucity of data, Bray said, but added: “There are a small handful of cases in which we have more data that our analysis simply hasn’t been able to fully pull together a picture of what happened.”

While analysts must consider the possibility that an advanced aircraft might use “signature management” technology to conceal its flight capabilities, “we’re not aware of any adversary that is capable of flying an aircraft without any discernable means of propulsion,” Bray added.

Moultrie and Bray said the Pentagon was determined to remove the stigma long associated with such sightings by encouraging pilots to come forward if they observe such phenomena.

‘THEY ARE REAL’

Subcommittee chairman Andre Carson stressed the importance of the taking UAPs seriously.

“UAPs are unexplained, it’s true. But they are real,” Carson said, raising concerns that Pentagon officials have previously focused on “low-hanging fruit,” cases that are relatively easy to explain, while “avoiding the ones that cannot be explained.”

“Can we get some kinds of assurances that your analysts will follow the facts where they lead and assess all hypotheses?” Carson asked Moultrie.

“Absolutely,” Moultrie responded. “We’re open to all hypotheses. We’re open to any conclusions that we may encounter.”

“We want to know what’s out there as much as you want to know what’s out there,” Moultrie said, acknowledging that he grew up as a science-fiction enthusiast.


The Navy task force involved in last year’s report was replaced in November by a Pentagon unit named the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group.

Last year’s report said UAP sightings probably lack a single explanation, with more data and analysis needed to determine whether they represent some exotic aerial system developed by a secret U.S. government or commercial entity or by a foreign power such as China or Russia. Atmospheric conditions, “airborne clutter” and pilot misperception could also be factors, it said.

The subcommittee’s top Republican, Rick Crawford, said he was “on board” with examining the topic but was “more interested” in subjects such as better understanding Chinese and Russian hypersonic weapon development.

The 2021 report and Tuesday’s hearing marked a turnaround for the U.S. government after decades spent deflecting, debunking and discrediting observations of UFOs and “flying saucers” dating back to the 1940s.

There had been no open congressional hearing on the subject since the Air Force terminated an inconclusive UFO program code-named Project Blue Book in 1969.
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Nemer launched the Sky Canada Project two years ago to compile UFO data after all other federal agencies dropped UFO investigations in 1995.

“Does extraterrestrial life exist?” asked a Sky Canada Project report circulated by Nemer’s office.

“No sign of extraterrestrial life has been detected to date. However, most scientists consider it only a matter of time before it is discovered.”
 

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Nemer launched the Sky Canada Project two years ago to compile UFO data after all other federal agencies dropped UFO investigations in 1995.

“Does extraterrestrial life exist?” asked a Sky Canada Project report circulated by Nemer’s office.

“No sign of extraterrestrial life has been detected to date. However, most scientists consider it only a matter of time before it is discovered.”
they also have to watch out for the men in black. :eek: ;) 👾 :alien: 🛸
 
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"Aliens and UFOs" are just humans. They were Atlantian preppers from 12,000 years ago who survived a comet strike.

Every once in a while they dropped a technology that punctuated an advance in human 2.0 development.

Agriculture for example didn't spread from one region but occurred independently in several regions at the same time with sizable distances between them.

There are other notable technologies that came around the same way.
 
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"Aliens and UFOs" are just humans. They were Atlantian preppers from 12,000 years ago who survived a comet strike.

Every once in a while they dropped a technology that punctuated an advance in human 2.0 development.

Agriculture for example didn't spread from one region but occurred independently in several regions with sizable distances between them.

There are other notable technologies that came around the same way.
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Neither do Somians.
Samoans?
They Came From Outer Space.

Duh.
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"Aliens and UFOs" are just humans. They were Atlantian preppers from 12,000 years ago who survived a comet strike.
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Every once in a while they dropped a technology that punctuated an advance in human 2.0 development.
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Agriculture for example didn't spread from one region but occurred independently in several regions at the same time with sizable distances between them.

There are other notable technologies that came around the same way.
 
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…But theoretical physicist Avi Loeb, of Harvard University, thinks that the mystery object has just carried out a move that is reminiscent of an ‘alien spacecraft’ braking.
(YouTube & “3I/ATLAS Just Sent a WARNING Signal That Put NASA In Panic Mode” | Michio Kaku)
The director of the Institute for Theory and Computation at the Center for Astrophysics says 3I/ATLAS performed what looked like a tail reversal - when particles stream towards the Sun.
Researchers from the Universities of California and Oslo discovered that 3I/ATLAS is releasing material as sunlight strikes its surface. Observations from NASA’s space telescopes revealed that the object is losing roughly 330 pounds of material every second, composed of about 87 percent carbon dioxide and nine percent carbon monoxide.

"We cannot infer the true nature of 3I/ATLAS from the skin layer it has shed so far," Loeb said.
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"If the object were an alien spacecraft slowing down, and the anti-tail represented braking thrust, this shift from anti-tail to tail would be entirely expected."
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He notes that 3I/ATLAS has been behaving in a different way to other interstellar objects like 'Oumuamua in 2017 and comet Borisov in 2019.
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3I/ATLAS not only shows an anti-tail, but also dramatic colour variations, as well as an enormous surrounding coma, which is a cloud of gas and dust around the nucleus.
Loeb explained that in spaceflight, the optimal moment to accelerate or decelerate a spacecraft is when it is nearest to a massive object, as firing the engine at that point - known as the Oberth effect -produces the greatest change in velocity.

"If 3I/ATLAS is a massive mothership it will likely continue along its original gravitational path and ultimately exit the Solar System," the scientist added.

"In that case the Oberth manoeuvre might apply to the mini-probes it releases towards Solar system planets."
(YouTube & 3I/ATLAS Is Way Scarier Than You Think | Joe Rogan)
 

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So…is this “really” Michio Kaku or AI?
  • Scientific confirmation:
    The object was officially confirmed by NASA and is being studied by astronomers worldwide. Its hyperbolic orbit confirms its origin from outside our solar system.

  • Natural origin:
    The vast majority of scientists maintain that 3I/ATLAS is a natural comet behaving as expected, according to Live Science and the European Space Agency.

  • Debate about artificial origin:
    Some researchers have raised controversial claims suggesting the object could be an artificial spacecraft, but this is not the mainstream scientific view, notes Live Science.

  • Physical characteristics:
    Initial observations show it has a tail and a "coma" (a cloud of gas and dust) forming around its nucleus as it gets closer to the sun, which is a normal cometary behavior, according to BBC Sky at Night Magazine. It is traveling at a very high speed.

  • Trajectory and threat:
    3I/ATLAS poses no threat to Earth. It is on an interstellar trajectory and will pass through the solar system without entering a closed orbit around the sun.
(YouTube & All The Real Science of 3I/ATLAS. The Ultimate Guide)
 

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My colleague, Adam Hibberd, pointed out that “if” the object is an alien spacecraft slowing down, and the anti-tail is braking thrust, then this change from anti-tail to tail would be entirely expected near perihelion. In that case, the transition would constitute a technosignature in the form of an unexpected phenomenon indicative of controlled maneuvering, possibly with the intention of achieving a bound heliocentric orbit between Mars’s and Jupiter’s orbits.

Since the surface of 3I/ATLAS will be exposed to at least 33 gigawatts of solar radiation at perihelion, post-perihelion observations at its closest approach to Earth on December 19th, 2025, will provide the most important clues about its nature. If, as a result of the intense solar heating, 3I/ATLAS will show all the features of a natural comet, I will reduce its rank to 2 on the Loeb scale (quantified here and here). The rank will not go down to 0 because the enormously larger mass of 3I/ATLAS relative to 1I/`Oumuamua and 2I/Borisov and its fine-tuned orbital alignment with the ecliptic plane, will never go away.
 

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My colleague, Adam Hibberd, pointed out that “if” the object is an alien spacecraft slowing down, and the anti-tail is braking thrust, then this change from anti-tail to tail would be entirely expected near perihelion. In that case, the transition would constitute a technosignature in the form of an unexpected phenomenon indicative of controlled maneuvering, possibly with the intention of achieving a bound heliocentric orbit between Mars’s and Jupiter’s orbits.

Since the surface of 3I/ATLAS will be exposed to at least 33 gigawatts of solar radiation at perihelion, post-perihelion observations at its closest approach to Earth on December 19th, 2025, will provide the most important clues about its nature. If, as a result of the intense solar heating, 3I/ATLAS will show all the features of a natural comet, I will reduce its rank to 2 on the Loeb scale (quantified here and here). The rank will not go down to 0 because the enormously larger mass of 3I/ATLAS relative to 1I/`Oumuamua and 2I/Borisov and its fine-tuned orbital alignment with the ecliptic plane, will never go away.
Yeah, but. . . I would presume that a real-life interstellar vessel would work on some as-yet-unknown-to-us principle that's a wee bit more sophisticated than kinetic reaction, which is essentially "throw shit out the back to speed up/slow down." They'd need tanks the size of Montana.
 

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Yeah, but. . . I would presume that a real-life interstellar vessel would work on some as-yet-unknown-to-us principle that's a wee bit more sophisticated than kinetic reaction, which is essentially "throw shit out the back to speed up/slow down." They'd need tanks the size of Montana.
Yeah, but…it’s a fun topic. I’d assume that the simplest answer might be the correct (or part of the correct) answer.
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Maybe “throwing junk out’a the trunk” is the easiest method of propulsion and is part of the answer. Maybe, “if” this isn’t a completely natural object, it’s ‘refueling’ enroute to wherever and whatever it’s doing in some manner, kind of like hitting the service stations along the way?

Perhaps that’s why (unless it’s a coincidence) that this 3i/Atlas is coming in on the plane of the ecliptic (or very close to it), being for “refueling” purposes kinda like a Baleen whale (as opposed to Montana sized tanks) as matter would be denser on this plane? Perhaps “if” this isn’t a completely natural object, this isn’t its only method of propulsion, but simply the easiest, with this thing coming in at about 60km/s it could be vacuuming up dust & gas as it goes along.
 

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