U.S. nervously watches Canada’s massive refugee plan

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U.S. nervously watches Canada’s massive refugee plan

Fear of the Canadian border as a gateway for terror — a recurring theme in U.S. politics since the attacks of 9/11 — appears to be stirring anew as the sheer heft of the Canadian plan takes shape,



It should come as something less than a shock that the United States is watching closely — and in some quarters, nervously — as Canada’s new government moves with bold, audacious speed on Syrian refugees.

Fear of the Canadian border as a gateway for terror — a recurring theme in U.S. politics since the attacks of 9/11, despite all evidence to the contrary — appears to be stirring anew as the sheer heft of the Canadian plan takes shape, with expectations of as many as 1,000 refugees a day arriving in Canada starting Dec. 1.

A telltale clue on the jittery thinking among U.S. officials came even before Friday’s attacks in Paris, when a senior officer with the U.S. embassy in Ottawa was overheard at a public gathering on Remembrance Day bluntly discussing Washington’s anxieties that some among the 25,000 refugees may come intending to travel south and wreak American havoc, ISIS-style.

“The message was very clear and not couched in diplomatic language — I heard, ‘My government is highly concerned’ about the potential threat at the border,” a witness to the U.S. official’s remarks told the Star on condition of anonymity. The official in question, Peter Malecha, a first secretary at the embassy, did not respond to the Star’s request for comment.

It is unclear whether it’s the speed or size of Ottawa’s refugee mobilization — or perhaps both — that rankles most. Either way, the fact that Canada is about to punch far above America’s weight on Syrian refugees is not going unnoticed. The Canadian pledge to absorb 25,000 people by year’s end vastly overshadows anything contemplated in Washington, where officials are looking at opening the door to an additional 10,000 refugees by the end of 2016. In per capita terms, Canada’s target is 25 times more generous than what Washington envisions. And it will happen 12 times faster.

Close watchers of the Canada-U.S. file in Washington say they are unsurprised by the added U.S. scrutiny, given how border security dominates American political conversation. Unlike in Canada, the Syrian refugee debate south of the border has been subsumed into the already overheated political battle over immigration, with Republican frontrunner Donald Trump warning any large influx of refugees represents a “Trojan Horse” security threat.

“These kinds of American anxieties speak to the borders-first mindset that prevails. And at the same time, Ottawa is being watched down here because it is not just a new government but a young government,” said Washington consultant Paul Frazer, a former Canadian diplomat specializing in cross-border issues.

“At the same time we need to keep in mind that we are a long way from 9/11 and the enhancements in border security have grown year after year, with an array of protections, coming and going. Is it presumptuous to sound the alarm about 25,000 people when Germany is dealing with 700,000 refugees as we speak? It probably is.”

source: U.S. nervously watches Canada’s massive refugee plan | Toronto Star

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I hope the USA says the Canadian need to apply for a Visa before visiting the USA.. it's long over due.
19 arrived in Calgary yesterday. Tons of ppl. out to greet them.
Our Premier says BC will take 3500. - so says today's news.
 

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10K by 12/31, 15K by 02/29.

and another 10K before the end of 2016 - in order for the Libs to keep their promise of 25,000 government sponsored refugees.

Possibly.........................I'd guess it's more a matter of getting "too close to the wall" with no other way to maneuver. :)

I'd guess it was more a matter of saner heads in the party prevailing. :smile:
 

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I'll bet that the Americans take in more Syrians than we do. They just won't be part of some grandstand "refugee rescue" but instead be part of the regular inflow of immigrants.
 

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The refugees have gone through hell in their quest for safety. LGBT Syrian refugees have the added danger of Daesh using its radicalized ideologies to promote homophobia. Gay men have been beheaded, which has led at least one gay Syrian refugee to sell his kidney to escape Iran.

And instead of aiding these refugees from a war we helped create with the invasion of Iraq in 2003, many prominent Americans are partaking in sodomy.

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson compared the refugees to rabid dogs in an attempt to express his concern over possible threats the refugees could pose. Another Republican presidential candidate, Chris Christie, said he would not even consider accepting orphan refugees under 5 years of age. Rhode Island state Sen. Elaine Morgan suggested segregated camps for refugees. The list of atrocious comparisons and denials for refugees continue to grow

Ironically, many of these standing against the refugees politicize their Christian beliefs on a slew of social issues. Yet what most of these Christian officials don’t realize is in advocating against aiding Syrian refugees they are partaking in biblical sodomy.

An important history lesson: The term sodomy is inaccurately used to describe **** sex, both by progressives and right-wing pundits. The term came from the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah, cities said to be so sinful and evil that God destroyed them. Traditional interpretations have presumed the sin of Sodom was gay sex due to the story of Lot and his daughters, but that’s a misnomer.

Genesis 19:4-8 says, “Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.' Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, 'No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing.

Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them.'”
Indeed, this passage speaks on same-sex rape, and this is what conservative Christians pinpoint as the “sin of Sodom,” while completely ignoring the fact that Lot — a man of God — offered his two virgin daughters to be gang-raped (but those are just details).

In Ezekiel 16: 49-50, Scripture says, “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.”

So what did the Bible label as the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah? Not same-sex sexual relations, but being “overfed and unconcerned”; not helping the poor and needy, being inhospitable.

Sodom was not destroyed because it was filled with gay sex. It was destroyed because the town was so vile and hostile to strangers that all men (note: the Bible doesn’t say just the men who had same-sex attractions but all men).

Jesus, in Matthew Chapter 10, refers back to Sodom, when telling his disciples of the fate that would fall on any town that refused to give them shelter or aid. Like the strangers visiting Lot — and many people in need today — Jesus’ disciples went out without food, extra clothing, or any place to stay at night.

In Hebrews 13: 2, Scripture reminds us, “Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it,” a clear reference to the angels Lot protected. In Isaiah Chapter 1 we see a prescription for the sin of Sodom. In verse 17, scripture states, “Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.”

Then in the Gospel, in case those references were not clear enough, Jesus really nails it in a chapter referred to as the “Judgment of Nations.” In this passage, Jesus tells his apostles that what they did to the “least of these” they did for him — emphasizing the need for us to welcome those in need with food, shelter, and clothing. The consequence for those refusing to help people in need? A fate worse than Sodom's.

Of course, it is not just conservatives, Republicans, or Christians who are engaging in sodomy. The GOP-led U.S. House voted to keep Syrian refugees out, and 55 Democrats supported the bill. It’s just particularly ironic that the majority of public officials who are rejecting refugees spend a large portion of their time promoting their "Bible-based" beliefs.

But perhaps only they can quote Scripture accurately.

Christians Denying Syrian Refugees Is Sodomy in Action | Advocate.com
 

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The US takes in 'refugees' that are neither women or children, they use the covert method and the funding it takes comes from the black budget.

Single males will be entering the US with as much fanfare as was given to the Nazi SS troops than came to the US after WWII. (and then became the CIA in case you were wondering who actually won that war)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...dmit-syrian-refugees-face-enforcement-action/

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...r-governors/uEMgaj4nzGY0DDjYL8a2uK/story.html

http://sputniknews.com/us/20151128/1030918952/russia-putin-trump-hillary-rubio.html
 

tay

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Holy cow tay... You are sooo butthurt over this, it even pains me.

Not sure what you mean by butthurt but I do enjoy watching the Hypocrisy flow from the 'I love to follow Jesus and Jesus loves me crowd' being worried about Syrian refugees coming to the USA via Canada.

Americans are the perpetually paranoid....
 

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U.S. nervously watches Canada’s massive refugee plan

Fear of the Canadian border as a gateway for terror — a recurring theme in U.S. politics since the attacks of 9/11 — appears to be stirring anew as the sheer heft of the Canadian plan takes shape,



It should come as something less than a shock that the United States is watching closely — and in some quarters, nervously — as Canada’s new government moves with bold, audacious speed on Syrian refugees.

Fear of the Canadian border as a gateway for terror — a recurring theme in U.S. politics since the attacks of 9/11, despite all evidence to the contrary — appears to be stirring anew as the sheer heft of the Canadian plan takes shape, with expectations of as many as 1,000 refugees a day arriving in Canada starting Dec. 1.

A telltale clue on the jittery thinking among U.S. officials came even before Friday’s attacks in Paris, when a senior officer with the U.S. embassy in Ottawa was overheard at a public gathering on Remembrance Day bluntly discussing Washington’s anxieties that some among the 25,000 refugees may come intending to travel south and wreak American havoc, ISIS-style.

“The message was very clear and not couched in diplomatic language — I heard, ‘My government is highly concerned’ about the potential threat at the border,” a witness to the U.S. official’s remarks told the Star on condition of anonymity. The official in question, Peter Malecha, a first secretary at the embassy, did not respond to the Star’s request for comment.

It is unclear whether it’s the speed or size of Ottawa’s refugee mobilization — or perhaps both — that rankles most. Either way, the fact that Canada is about to punch far above America’s weight on Syrian refugees is not going unnoticed. The Canadian pledge to absorb 25,000 people by year’s end vastly overshadows anything contemplated in Washington, where officials are looking at opening the door to an additional 10,000 refugees by the end of 2016. In per capita terms, Canada’s target is 25 times more generous than what Washington envisions. And it will happen 12 times faster.

Close watchers of the Canada-U.S. file in Washington say they are unsurprised by the added U.S. scrutiny, given how border security dominates American political conversation. Unlike in Canada, the Syrian refugee debate south of the border has been subsumed into the already overheated political battle over immigration, with Republican frontrunner Donald Trump warning any large influx of refugees represents a “Trojan Horse” security threat.

“These kinds of American anxieties speak to the borders-first mindset that prevails. And at the same time, Ottawa is being watched down here because it is not just a new government but a young government,” said Washington consultant Paul Frazer, a former Canadian diplomat specializing in cross-border issues.

“At the same time we need to keep in mind that we are a long way from 9/11 and the enhancements in border security have grown year after year, with an array of protections, coming and going. Is it presumptuous to sound the alarm about 25,000 people when Germany is dealing with 700,000 refugees as we speak? It probably is.”

source: U.S. nervously watches Canada’s massive refugee plan | Toronto Star

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I hope the USA says the Canadian need to apply for a Visa before visiting the USA.. it's long over due.
We can get the Syrian refugees to build it.