U.N. Employees Beheaded Over Quran Burning

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The great thing about the United Nations is that while it is useful for some things and publicly champions human rights, it's record on human rights is so bad that when you want to use it as an authoritative source rights absurdities like this can be easily dismissed. Its declarations deserve no more respect than the ideas themselves should get.
Is it UNecessary or is it neccesary?

We pay hefty taxes to them it yet it is UNelected. It's UNofficial. UNaccountable.

It has proven war, genocide, annexation, famine, poverty, and the likes are all UNstoppble.

Either it has power or it doesn't.

Enough is enough.
 

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Is it UNecessary or is it neccesary?

We pay hefty taxes to them it yet it is UNelected. It's UNofficial. UNaccountable.

It has proven war, genocide, annexation, famine, poverty, and the likes are all UNstoppble.

Either it has power or it doesn't.

Enough is enough.

The United Nations is necessary but it needs to be reformed. The world needs an international organization like it where states can meet and resolve disputes. It does good work in medicine and food and helping refugees. Of course, in the case of refugees, it is often the case that the nature of the UN makes it impossible to stop the cause of refugees. And that's the problem. It legitimizes oppressive dictatorships. It puts them on human rights committees. It ignores ongoing genocides. It's even been complicit in some.
 

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The United Nations is necessary but it needs to be reformed. The world needs an international organization like it where states can meet and resolve disputes. It does good work in medicine and food and helping refugees. Of course, in the case of refugees, it is often the case that the nature of the UN makes it impossible to stop the cause of refugees. And that's the problem. It legitimizes oppressive dictatorships. It puts them on human rights committees. It ignores ongoing genocides. It's even been complicit in some.
Perhaps the UN should introduce a bill that voids the veto aspect and the will of the majority of Nations (and per capita somehow, perhaps the UN representative bring forth the results of a poll/vote from Canadian voters on really important 'constitutional issues' that involve other Nations). Strange as it may sound the UN should support most revolutions just because it is unlikely people will revolt against the current government because conditions are too good.

The former security council can keep their jobs as the enfocvers but divvy up the responsibilities evenly, one designs the wapons, one produces, one moves them to and fro and one uses them in the field, that way not one of them can go rouge,

That it would be the 5 that disagree with the above says it was never meant to work properly from the start. The Bankers will finance only the countries that support their directives, that include being part of the both the problem and the solution and neither evr work as originally (due to mysterious forces beyond 'their' (the UN) control. Sad but in this case with a 'bastard for a parent, the only way to break free (and have an effective UN) the 5 holdout have to be convinced to join the masses and together fire the current bankster. If they resist kill the top ones first and work your way down. If it comes to that a preset number has to be chosen (5, 10, 15 million, 200?) and the next ones to run the banks will not be so concerned in seeing most of the available money is not sitting in their banks, doing nothing other than being stolen and hoarded.

If wiping out people in some cases is justified, as in cast iron, then the oppressed Gentile Nations have a right, even a duty, to utterly break the backs of the current banksters. Lets randomly kill 1400 of them, men, women, and children and see if they behave for the two years after that. If they don't PhaseII will be enacted, if that doesn't work then pre-emptive strike would be the only alternative, punish them before they can do anything wrong. The banksters would obviously do that to us, as they have done even worse things to have their way in just the last 100 years.

If the current system doesn't work it might be because we are doing it backwards, we need security from the ones named, if one vetoes a 'just bill' that is the first one to attack.. An attack dog when wanting freedom sometimes has to turn on the handler if he is doing it 'wrong' (ie don't beat the dog)
 

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The UN is and will continue to be a useless organization until they drop the Veto aspect that some "Special" countries seem to have. They should allow all countries to be members of the UN, regardless of their political affiliations or who they have as leaders, so that not only will they have a voice in matters that do relate to them, but also allow them to be involved in a real democratic system.

The reason why such countries are so opposed to Democracy is because they see the flaws in the UN and countries like the US whom hold Veto power that over rules the will of the majority against the will of the one...... because of Veto, it's not really Democracy.... it's just an illusion of Democracy, in that it's only Democracy so long as you vote for what those who hold veto power want you to vote for and if you don't, then they'll shut the whole system down because they didn't get what they want.

Another example, Canada where a Prime Minister can now Prorogue Parliament when they don't like what's happening or to save their own skin.... it's the same thing as Veto. (Well almost)
 

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The reason why such countries are so opposed to Democracy is because they see the flaws in the UN and countries like the US whom hold Veto power that over rules the will of the majority against the will of the one...... because of Veto, it's not really Democracy.... it's just an illusion of Democracy, in that it's only Democracy so long as you vote for what those who hold veto power want you to vote for and if you don't, then they'll shut the whole system down because they didn't get what they want.

The United Nations couldn't possibly be a democracy. Its members are not people. They're states.
 

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The United Nations couldn't possibly be a democracy. Its members are not people. They're states.

You're correct.... they're not exactly people, they're States/Countries.

But those people representing these countries/states should also be representing the interests of the people of their countries/states and the people of those countries/states should also be able to vote for who represents them at the UN or haul them out if they aren't doing their job.

Yet another problem with the UN.

During Election time we should be able to not just vote for our local representatives, but also be able to vote for the country's representative at the UN and they should be legally bound to represent the view of the majority of our nation at the UN. If they decide something against the wishes of the majority of our country, they should be held legally accountable and dragged through the coals.
 

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You have obviously never heard of the concept of free speech.

This is probably the most offensive comment I have heard on this subject to date.

I suggest you move from North America to some Islamic looney-bin where they engage in execution for harmless expressions of political or religious belief.

I'm sure, were you to move from here to Saudi Arabia, that the average IQ would leap in both places.
Colpy,
I'd go down there and castrate this whacko in front of his congregation but I'm afraid he'll start hollering in a soprano tone and the media would start him off on a Yoddeling Show. And put him on prime time TV.
 

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Colpy,
I'd go down there and castrate this whacko in front of his congregation but I'm afraid he'll start hollering in a soprano tone and the media would start him off on a Yoddeling Show. And put him on prime time TV.
Step on his throat.
 

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Nothing screams a free and democratic society, like threats of castration and stepping ones throat, because you don't agree with the message, when someone legally expresses their opinion, while exercising their legal rights and freedoms....

 

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Nothing screams a free and democratic society, like threats of castration and stepping ones throat, because you don't agree with the message, when someone legally expresses their opinion, while exercising their legal rights and freedoms....

OPEN YOUR EYES WIDER

That was Highball stating he was going down there, I just told him how we used to keep the piglets quiet while castrating them. Anything illegal or unhumanitarian about castrating pigs?
That wouldn't be an example of some of you prejudices rearing it's ugly head would it?
 

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OPEN YOUR EYES WIDER
Why? I see you for what you are with the early morning squint I got going on now.

That was Highball stating he was going down there, I just told him how we used to keep the piglets quiet while castrating them. Anything illegal or unhumanitarian about castrating pigs?
Nice backpeddling, did you have that bike made special for you?

That wouldn't be an example of some of you prejudices rearing it's ugly head would it?
Yep, it would.
 

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Nice, give you the opportunity to apologize (like you say you do when in error) to prove you can and you prove you can't. Looks like your squint isn't the only thing that will never change. No big surprise there.
 

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Nice, give you the opportunity to apologize (like you say you do when in error) to prove you can and you prove you can't. Looks like your squint isn't the only thing that will never change. No big surprise there.

Please show me where you say anything about pigs in this post?

Step on his throat.

Enjoy the backwards bike ride.
 

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So any books or people being torched today? You going up/down in flames doesn't rate as you did it to yourself. You do get slack for it being 'unknowingly'.

On day 5 of the rage against the 'Gov forces' is being linked to similar events that are hitting some other nations in the area, rather than the spin of the Pastor being the case of the 'unrest'. Aren't you a little old (and wise) to be swallowing that bull****? (roiting not caused by 8 years of continual war where their lives have taken a turn for the worse, liberation is the bull**** word that is uses in 'western nation' so their locals don't riot themselves about needless wars and a bunch of other stuff if they actually spouted some real facts once in awhile.

Pigs on the farm is where I leaned they would be 'quieter' rather than your training where it was a real boot on a real person's throat, at that stage the knife is usually there also (rather than trying to remove the reproductive tools)
 

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So any books or people being torched today?
People? I don't remember the Pastor burning people. Can you explain how you make this leap in logic?

Pigs on the farm is where I leaned they would be 'quieter' rather than your training where it was a real boot on a real person's throat, at that stage the knife is usually there also (rather than trying to remove the reproductive tools)
I bet it works, but that's not what you said is it?
 

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It was a reference to the 24 (last count I heard) that have died in Afghanistan. I doubt anybody even keeps track of who they were yet the Pastor will probably get a plaque from somebody.

The boot is more for the struggle than the squealing. Even then, a piglet is more than enough for one person so I doubt a man would be any 'quieter'. when presented with the same operation. Notice I didn't wish him luck, wait, observing is not your strong suit, at least at this time of the morning.
 

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It was a reference to the 24 (last count I heard) that have died in Afghanistan. I doubt anybody even keeps track of who they were yet the Pastor will probably get a plaque from somebody.
So in other words, you're back to deflecting, instead of admitting your error. OK
 

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Chastised for trying to get you back on thread topic, lol.
The only error was replying to you. lol I don't wish the Pastor any good will but it isn't as intense as it is for the man who kills 3 kids and then feels bad cause he has a difficult time getting a cup of coffee. I'm quite certain anybody from Iraq or Afghanistan cares very much when they are seeing whole villages almost wiped out entirely. Like I said, same planet, different world, I've accepted that, you shopuld also and not act like each post is such a surprise to you.