U.N. Employees Beheaded Over Quran Burning

CDNBear

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What the hell are you talking about? None of that has anything to do with the rights of people in non-Israeli occupied Middle Eastern territory. Why the focus on Palestine all the time? Where is your outrage over the rights of other peoples in the Middle East? Why are discussions of those rights deflected into discussions about Palestine?
If you ever get a straight answer, let me know.

Please.

 

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MHz - I would expect by now you should realize that there is no possibility of holding a serious discussion with certain people in here. These few specific people frequent this forum only for the reason of argument and really have nothing constructive to add to any exchange of ideas.

I wouldn't go that far. I think the problem is that, in many cases, people aren't even discussing the same things. I recently started a thread about problem solving. I did it specifically because some folks here really have no idea how to do it. I know that is a big issue with CB (He laughed off the thread). CB, like so many others pass right over defining the problem and understanding priorities. Unless and until you do that, there really isn't any point in moving on with a discussion.

Take this thread for instance, What is the problem? Is it that UN folks are being killed? Is it that Religious nutters are given too much publicity. Is it that western armies are unwelcome in Afghanistan. Until people can agree on the problem, no problem will ever be solved. There's nothing really wrong with that if you choose to be here for entertainment sake. Don't take it too seriously.
 

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You are aware that in the demonstrations in Egypt they had thugs sent it by the ruling government with the express intend to incite bad behavior so Government Forces had the excuse they needed to open fire on the demonstrators. It was the crowd themselves that exposed that and stopped it. That is standard policy, there and in Afghanistan. Now that it is in it's 4th day a major ruling about demonstrations may be introduced by the Government and it would not be to the benefit of the current demonstrators. Today word can get around so if it can be spotted and stopped in some areas it can be in other parts also. I assume 'the playbook' only has so many variations so what is practiced in one would be the same in the whole group. The US will fight hardest for the island Nation that is also a Naval Base.

Yes I am leading you into a larger topic.

I'm not the best follower. I think I'll just stay right here if you don't mind. As I said, I'm only in this to refute the argument that the pastor's actions are equally responsible for the riots and murders as the actual people rioting and murdering. Are we still in disagreement on this? It's been hard to tell when you insist on wandering away to new topics when the previous one hasn't been resolved.
 

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simply ignore them.
Nice plan but things don't work like that here. Letting them have the last word (an off topic or personal attack) lets them falsely believe that they 'won' the debate'. Nor would giving up on something you believe do you any good, the condition would still follow you from thread to thread. That's why I stick to just a few topics.
Bear promotes that sagging (because they are hot) floor-foist can cause it to pull on the outer columns and the core columns with such force that both columns will fail before the floor-joist or the attachment points. Having 12 certificates to do withe welding should prevent a person from accepting such nonsense, no such luck so I appreciate the warning but I'm well aware of who I'm dealing with. On a rare occasion they start feeding on themselves and that can be a bit entertaining by itself although I would never intentionally set it up, they do a well enough job on their own.
 

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You are aware that in the demonstrations in Egypt they had thugs sent it by the ruling government with the express intend to incite bad behavior so Government Forces had the excuse they needed to open fire on the demonstrators.

It is not just the middle east where this is done. The police and security forces at the G20 in Toronto used agent provocateurs also. It is becoming the standard for all demonstrations against goverment around the world.
 

CDNBear

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Just couldn't pass up a chance to troll, lol. You just have to love the on again off again between you bois.
I know that is a big issue with CB (He laughed off the thread). CB, like so many others pass right over defining the problem and understanding priorities. Unless and until you do that, there really isn't any point in moving on with a discussion.
Or the greater issue, people that move goal posts, quote mine, play word games and fail to concede to fact, anytime you begin to lose the argument. Which is exactly what you and Nick do.

But feel free to think you operate under some higher standard. It would be a fallacy, like the ones you use to twist posts.
 
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MHz

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I'm not the best follower. I think I'll just stay right here if you don't mind. As I said, I'm only in this to refute the argument that the pastor's actions are equally responsible for the riots and murders as the actual people rioting and murdering. Are we still in disagreement on this? It's been hard to tell when you insist on wandering away to new topics when the previous one hasn't been resolved.
No we generally agree, I tend to add the condition tha knowledge may tip the scale in the other direction, if he knew it would cause a roit the publishing it was the criminal act, burning it should have been a 'private matter'
We have a place to stop if you wish, my posts would only have been along the lines about the shoe being on the other foot.
Whoa there, is the 'slow-down a bit' phrase I am trained for
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It is not just the middle east where this is done. The police and security forces at the G20 in Toronto used agent provocateurs also. It is becoming the standard for all demonstrations against goverment around the world.
Quebec was the first place I saw pics of some getting nabbed. lol
 

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Nice plan but things don't work like that here. Letting them have the last word (an off topic or personal attack) lets them falsely believe that they 'won' the debate' .

I don't mind them thinking they are legends in their own minds.
 

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Nice plan but things don't work like that here. Letting them have the last word (an off topic or personal attack) lets them falsely believe that they 'won' the debate'. Nor would giving up on something you believe do you any good, the condition would still follow you from thread to thread. That's why I stick to just a few topics.





I don't mind them thinking they are legends in their own minds.
 

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Or the greater issue, people that move goal posts

You only believe the goal posts are moving because you haven't bothered to define the problem. That and your priorities are different than mine. I have no personal concern for you and your buddies however, you obviously do.
 

CDNBear

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You only believe the goal posts are moving because you haven't bothered to define the problem. That and your priorities are different than mine. I have no personal concern for you and your buddies however, you obviously do.
Your silly claims have no weight Cannuck. You're running on empty.
 

Cannuck

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Your silly claims have no weight Cannuck. You're running on empty.

I'm sure they don't. Makes me wonder why you were/are still interested in my definition of a nation. Maybe you should start discussing problems instead of strategies.
 

CDNBear

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I'm sure they don't. Makes me wonder why you were/are still interested in my definition of a nation. Maybe you should start discussing problems instead of strategies.
Maybe you should try and post an argument, without every fallacy known to mankind.

That would be a treat!
 

Cannuck

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Maybe you should try and post an argument, without every fallacy known to mankind.

Seems to me I did that about a year ago. You got your panties twisted because you didn't like what i said and the rest is history as they say.
 

MHz

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Don't pretend not to notice between which posts I put it ..
Even you can't be that obtuse8O
What are you promoting? The enemy of my enemy is my friend is a saying, in real life it might not be the wisest thing to do. When Rebels in Libya met with the Brits, all of a sudden their main ammo dump goes boom. Didn't work that time now did it?