U.N. Employees Beheaded Over Quran Burning

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Let's use False Christians instead, you may find there aren't any differences that stand out compared to the similarities you are sure to find.
I absolutely agree with you 100%. False Christians like yourself, and the lunatic fringe of Islam, share so much in common.
 

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I would have it at the international court in the Hague. It is an international incident that affected many nations so that would be the best forum.

No way! What Terry Jones did may be distasteful but its perfectly legal!
Islamic extremists are so hell bent on Jihad that they're just waiting for incidents like this to give them an excuse to kill. They're the ones snuffing out lives and your suggesting that the pastor be charged! Unbelievable!

What if I were to paint a picture of Mohammed's face, put it on display and that incited a riot in barbarian land?

Should I be charged when all I did was exercise my right to express myself with art?
 
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No way! What Terry Jones did may be distasteful but its perfectly legal!
Islamic extremists are so hell bent on Jihad that they're just waiting for incidents like this to give them an excuse to kill. They're the ones snuffing out lives and your suggesting thatthe pastor be charged! Unbelievable!

What if I were to paint a picture of Mohammed's face, put it on display and that incited a riot in barbarian land?

Should I be charged when all I did was exercise my right to express myself with art?
What kind of art is burning a Holy book? There are some things that might set you off in the flash of a moment, can you show the whole group had murder on their mid when the demonstration was planned?
 

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So you believe in free speech, so long as you agree with the message. Gotchya.
I belive in free speech that is for an open exchange of ideas and opinions, not for promoting hate or violence. And you mean 'gotcha';-)

Nope. Because that would be another false analogy.
I was not trying to be analogous, I was trying to determine your positon on the limits of free speech.

Irrelevant. It wasn't my determination that it is a philosophical term. I simply stated a fact.
Quite releavent, you stated it as your opinion, not as a fact with a reference.

The KKK, NAMBLA, the WestboroughBaptist asshats, all say you're completely wrong.
And you would hold the opinion of these in high regard?

Thank gawd the SC isn't inhabited by people like you.
FIFY

We're talking about the law, not morals. And if I were you, I wouldn't be talking about morals. Your position on womens dress, and this Pator, express a serious case of moral relativism.
Morality is a relative thing, that's what makes it so wonderful. I can believe in the left-wing social safety net and at the same time believe in fiscal responsibility and the right to bear arms. The law is also directly based on morality, that is why there are different laws in societies with different morals.

I'm sure you're wrong, since it's a living document, and you can't apply a contem,porary mindset to a premise in antiquity.
A living document, has it grown up and had kids? You can choose to interpret it based on the modern mindset but the intent that was written into it remains the same as the day it was written. The word remain the same, only the interpretation of their meaning is changed.
 

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Hey...even weird christians (small c) the greenborough church stops short at cutting heads off:lol:
Yep. And as distasteful as their shenanigans are, I still support their right to do it, 100%. Because they act within the law.

To decipher that I would have to know if you are currently a liar.
It was simple English, so I can understand why you had difficulty understanding it.

And since I'm the one that has caught you in lies, and proved it, not once, but twice in the last two days.

I wouldn't be calling anyone a liar if I were you.
 
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That's for you to prove.
Until that day it will have to stay as a 'ponder', maybe they will youtube how the court exonerates them according to International Law and the look at the apologizes they will have coming their way.

You're babling again.....make sense please.
They being the Church the Pastor if from, telivise the whole event, with interviews before and after the sermon that adresses this 'situation' and then put it on youtube. In return the people that hear the trial in Afghanistan that are found innocent will post it on youtube to show that Israel is not the only Nation that polices it's own with a fist of some sort. Hope that is a bit clearer.
 

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I belive in free speech that is for an open exchange of ideas and opinions, not for promoting hate or violence.
And that means you believe in free speech, so long as you agree with the message.

I was not trying to be analogous, I was trying to determine your positon on the limits of free speech.
Up to, but not including, a call to commit a crime.
Quite releavent, you stated it as your opinion, not as a fact with a reference.
Stop using Cannucks play book. It will just make you look as stupid as it makes him look.

And you would hold the opinion of these in high regard?
Not at all, but if I support free speech for things I believe in, I have to support it for things I find detestable.

Yes, I agree, your argument is weak. Pointing out spelling is the best course of action now.

Morality is a relative thing, that's what makes it so wonderful. I can believe in the left-wing social safety net and at the same time believe in fiscal responsibility and the right to bear arms. The law is also directly based on morality, that is why there are different laws in societies with different morals.
And change it on a whim, even when it conflicts. I see that, it's called moral relativism.

A living document, has it grown up and had kids?
Ahhh, appeal to ridicule. A new fallacy for you. I suggest you brush up on the constitution. That statement proves you have a limited understanding of it.
You can choose to interpret it based on the modern mindset but the intent that was written into it remains the same as the day it was written.
Right, like I said.
The word remain the same, only the interpretation of their meaning is changed.
Right, like I said.

I see you and Cannuck are great at ignoring challenges. So much for your free and open discussion.

Until that day it will have to stay as a 'ponder', maybe they will youtube how the court exonerates them according to International Law and the look at the apologizes they will have coming their way.
Insert what DaS said here.
 
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What if I were to paint a picture of Mohammed's face, put it on display and that incited a riot in barbarian land?

Should I be charged when all I did was exercise my right to express myself with art?

If it could reasonably believed doing so would create a riot and harm to others then yes and that is the point. A reasonable person can believe there could be serious repercussions arising from his actions.

Since everyone seems to have the opinion that the Afghanis are murderous and animalistic it would be reasonable to expect this reaction.

Reasonable belief is another one of those principle used in the law to test liability all the time.
 

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If it could reasonably believed doing so would create a riot and harm to others then yes and that is the point. A reasonable person can believe there could be serious repercussions arising from his actions.
Why?

Are you saying Muslims are naturally violent and prone to murder?

How bigoted of you.

Since everyone seems to have the opinion that the Afghanis are murderous and animalistic it would be reasonable to expect this reaction.
But you said that wasn't true, earlier in this thread.

This would be another one of those moments, where you contradict yourself.

Reasonable belief is another one of those principle used in the law to test liability all the time.
More legal terms, and yet you avoided my challenge.
 

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They being the Church the Pastor if from, telivise the whole event, with interviews before and after the sermon that adresses this 'situation' and then put it on youtube. In return the people that hear the trial in Afghanistan that are found innocent will post it on youtube to show that Israel is not the only Nation that polices it's own with a fist of some sort. Hope that is a bit clearer.
Good lord you are actualy serious about such a convoluted idea for a trial...Bear is right about you ...you don't just move goal post...you're completely out of the arena (Synonym for out to lunch) Absolutely no logic whatsoever...
 

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Good lord you are actualy serious about such a convoluted idea for a trial...Bear is right about you ...you don't just move goal post...you're completely out of the arena (Synonym for out to lunch) Absolutely no logic whatsoever...
I told you she was daft dude. I'm surprised it took you this long to believe me.
 

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Think the ones in Afghanistan getting off scott-free will result in more books being burned? JMHO but the ones I would put as being out of touch is the ones who sent a load of Bibles to Muslims in the first place, notice they made the Christians (big letter 'c' but that means the books are holy rather than the people who brought them over) The Muslims declined so they burned their own Holy book, right in front og them. How better can you say False Christian in da house?

I told you she was daft dude. I'm surprised it took you this long to believe me.
Perhaps she is s-----l------o-------w, after all you are her coach