Two years into the Trudeau 2.0 Minority Term, which day will Justin call the election that only he wants?

Ron in Regina

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Here we are in the last and bitter days of this needless vanity election. The prospect of a majority for either the Liberals or the Conservatives is seen as very slim. Should the result be a minority Liberal government the inutility and opportunistic cast of the election will be cruelly highlighted. Justin Trudeau will have called an election during a surging pandemic only to be returned, weakened, to the status quo ante.
A Globe reporter tweeted during the crowded and possibly-contrary-to-Ontario pandemic protocols rally in Brampton, Tuesday night, “If you want to end this pandemic, go out and vote Liberal, (Trudeau) says.”

What? Is this medical advice? Now, voting for a Liberal government has many signifiers. But, is it now a vaccine? If so, it a one-jabber or a two-jabber? http://apple.news/AzNRzF4NzQTqjPTJ8V4r-Jw

I had not realized that the way to kill pandemics was outside modern medicine and its many miracles. By Trudeau’s declaration, it is to vote Liberal. In an election called by a Liberal during a pandemic. Before any election had to be called. Perhaps so that the “cure” could be announced at a crowded COVID-inviting rally held by the Liberals during the election they didn’t have to call.

There was a quite telling moment recently when Trudeau was skillfully and respectfully interviewed by Neetu Garcha of Global TV in British Columbia. At the end of the exchange he condescended to tell Garcha that she hadn’t asked the right questions. Now just as a matter of manners, a prime minister lecturing that polite and intelligent interviewer was uncalled for, rude, and smug as hell.

Talking down to a woman, as the movie types say, segues nicely into Jody Wilson-Raybould’s new book, which I recommend not only for the SNC-Lavalin stuff and the Trudeau sketches, but also for its revelations on how the Liberal cabinet is ruled by the staff ninjas of the PMO. A revelation which comes at me almost as a horror story is that cabinet ministers were never supposed to communicate directly with the prime minister. None had either his phone number or his email address. They instead had to file through the praetorian guard of Gerry Butts and Katie Telford. I knew backbenchers were almost always treated as servants of the PMO. But cabinet ministers? http://apple.news/AzNRzF4NzQTqjPTJ8V4r-Jw

And that also — here’s that word again — provides a segue (we’re going from book to book) to another topic.

We learned this week that China, or as we should always say in reference to that country, the Chinese Communist government, has a curious, but selective, appetite for Canadian biography. Trudeau’s autobiography is like a Charles Dickens story — Oliver Twist say — except turned upside down. Its title in China is not Common Ground, as here in Canada. It is (drum roll) The Legend Continues. http://apple.news/AzNRzF4NzQTqjPTJ8V4r-Jw

As the Sino book blurb might say: “The inspiring story of Justin Trudeau tells of his birth into the most famous and powerful family in Canada, his remarkably untroubled youth, and his ‘play’ and course-jumping years at university. It treads lightly on his ‘blackface’ hobby and follows his challenging careers, including as a snowboarding instructor and a part-time bouncer, until, in his early 40s, he made the casual saunter into the leadership of a whole country. A true legend’s life arc. This book has something for hardly anyone, except for the offspring of super-rich celebrities, or scions of hereditary monarchs. (It is a five-star selection for the popular radio program “Beijing Reads” with commentators from the CCBC, the Communist China Broadcasting Corporation).”
 

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Trudeau refuses to fire latest Liberal candidate caught in sex assault allegations
Spadina Fort York candidate Kevin Vuong says 2019 charge was dropped by crown

Author of the article:Brian Lilley
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Publishing date:Sep 17, 2021 • 13 hours ago • 2 minute read • 82 Comments
Kevin Vuong in Toronto on Tuesday, Oct. 9 2018.
Kevin Vuong in Toronto on Tuesday, Oct. 9 2018. PHOTO BY BRYAN PASSIFIUME /Toronto Sun
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Faced with another candidate accused of sexual misconduct, Justin Trudeau said once again that he takes such issues seriously.

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The Liberal leader stopped short of firing the candidate in Toronto’s Spadina-Fort York riding — meaning he’s still a Liberal.


Trudeau was forced to answer questions about Liberal candidate Kevin Vuong after the Toronto Star reported that Voung had been charged, but not convicted, of sexual assault in 2019.

“We are a party that always take serious any allegations or reports of sexual harassment or intimidation or assault,” Trudeau said.

He added that the party only learned of the charges when they were contacted by the Star.

What Trudeau did not say is whether Vuong would be allowed to stay in the party if elected. The Liberals say they have told Vuong to “pause” his campaign but he is still on the ballot because it is too late to remove names or candidates.

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Asked three times if he would allow Vuong to sit in the Liberal caucus or fire him, Trudeau refused to answer — staring back at the reporter with a smirk as his staff called “next question.”

Vuong has denied the allegations, saying in a statement that they are false and noting that the Crown prosecutor withdrew the charges before going to trial.

Opposition parties said this is part of a pattern with the Trudeau Liberals.

“By defending this candidate, Mr. Trudeau is still putting the ambitions of powerful men over the lives and well-being of women,” NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said.

“These are not the actions of a feminist Prime Minister.”


Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole said this was part of a pattern of cover-ups for Trudeau.

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“Once again,. Canadians are left wondering how they can trust the Liberals,” O’Toole said.

“Justin Trudeau must do the right thing and immediately fire this candidate and confirm that if elected, this candidate will not sit in the Liberal Caucus.”

Earlier in the campaign, Trudeau spent most of a week defending Kitchener area candidate Raj Saini over allegations from several women that he had engaged in sexual harassment and being an abusive employer.

Trudeau only rejected Saini after several days of bad headlines but like Vuong, Saini’s name will still be on the ballot as a Liberal.

LIBERAL IMPROPRIETY
The Trudeau Liberals have had several MPs, candidates and staff members face allegations over the past few years, here is a partial list.

Liberal MPs

Justin Trudeau
Raj Saini
Kent Hehr
Darshan Kang
Marwan Tabbara
Hunter Tootoo
Scott Andrews
Massimo Pacetti

Liberal candidates

Kevin Vuong

Liberal staffers

Claude-Éric Gagné
 
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Ron in Regina

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Whoever wins the election on Monday, they’re going to have a much tougher time uniting and leading the country than Justin Trudeau did a mere five weeks ago. Canada is now an angrier and more polarized place than when the Liberal leader made the call in mid-August. This tear in the country’s social and political fabric is the true tragedy of forcing an unnecessary vote during such a tumultuous time. http://apple.news/AACJk17n1Tf29LAEMfg9BcA

Trudeau misread the public mood and that will have consequences. There has been much talk about of what this means for the Liberal party itself, which most likely won’t win a majority and may not even pull off a minority. But much more important is this election’s lasting effect on the country as a whole.

In a time when Canada needed empathy and unification, the Liberals instead chose to pursue their own goals. This early election was a bad idea for many reasons, but the worst will be the permanent scars it leaves on an already vulnerable nation.
 

Ron in Regina

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We have said it before and we will say it again: This election was unnecessary. Not illegal, not illegitimate, not unconstitutional – just profoundly unnecessary. Undesired by Canadians, and undesirable for Canada. A Liberal minority government was governing, and in no danger of falling; until the triggering of an election campaign, an election was the main thing the opposition parties were campaigning against. http://apple.news/AFOqysrXySmC0vlm52lEJxQ

Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau called an election anyhow, and the result has been five weeks of what has often felt like either a dangerous distraction from the issue of the moment – the pandemic, and all its consequences – or a cynical attempt to use the crisis as a partisan weapon.

An unnecessary election? Yes. Inconsequential? Hardly.
 

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We have said it before and we will say it again: This election was unnecessary. Not illegal, not illegitimate, not unconstitutional – just profoundly unnecessary. Undesired by Canadians, and undesirable for Canada. A Liberal minority government was governing, and in no danger of falling; until the triggering of an election campaign, an election was the main thing the opposition parties were campaigning against. http://apple.news/AFOqysrXySmC0vlm52lEJxQ

Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau called an election anyhow, and the result has been five weeks of what has often felt like either a dangerous distraction from the issue of the moment – the pandemic, and all its consequences – or a cynical attempt to use the crisis as a partisan weapon.

An unnecessary election? Yes. Inconsequential? Hardly.
Maybe some of his MP’s will lose their goldplated pension plan . Will be a nice bonus for Canada .
 

Ron in Regina

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Maybe some of his MP’s will lose their goldplated pension plan . Will be a nice bonus for Canada .
Don’t think Trudeau cares as long as his own is locked in, & he’s still got his trust fund, & the Trudeau Foundation, & book deals with the Chinese Communist Gov’t, & probably something waiting for him at the UN that we’d have already prepaid with our tax dollars in the last six years, &….
 

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Don’t think Trudeau cares as long as his own is locked in, & he’s still got his trust fund, & the Trudeau Foundation, & book deals with the Chinese Communist Gov’t, & probably something waiting for him at the UN that we’d have already prepaid with our tax dollars in the last six years, &….
We can look forward to the knives coming out if he loses seats .
 

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Liberals cut ties with Toronto candidate after news of dropped sex assault charge
Author of the article:Canadian Press
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Publishing date:Sep 18, 2021 • 20 hours ago • 1 minute read • 52 Comments
Kevin Vuong is pictured in a file photo taken on the Bathurst Bridge overlooking Toronto on Sept. 28, 2018 while he was campaigning during the Toronto municipal election for the position of city councillor for Ward 10, Spadina-Fort York.
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The federal Liberals say a candidate in downtown Toronto will no longer run under their banner after it came to light that he had previously faced a sexual assault charge that was later dropped.

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The party said Friday it had learned of the allegations against Kevin Vuong through a report in the Toronto Star a day earlier, and had asked him to “pause” his campaign.


But the party released a statement this morning saying Vuong won’t be a Liberal candidate anymore, and if he’s elected to represent Spadina-Fort York on Monday, he will not be a member of the Liberal caucus.

Vuong denied the allegations against him in a statement Friday, and noted the charge was withdrawn.

Court documents confirm Vuong was charged with sexual assault in 2019 and that the charge was withdrawn later that year.

Spadina Fort-York was previously represented by Liberal Adam Vaughan, who is not running again in 2021.
 

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Trudeau says he remains open to electoral reform if Liberals re-elected
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Publishing date:Sep 18, 2021 • 15 hours ago • 3 minute read • 179 Comments
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau speaks during an election campaign stop in Aurora, Ont., Saturday, Sept. 18, 2021.
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RICHMOND HILL, Ont. — Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau said Saturday that he remains open to getting rid of Canada’s first-past-the-post electoral system if his party is re-elected, but added that it’s not a priority since there’s no consensus on the issue.

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Trudeau said, however, that he would not favour proportional representation as an alternative, saying the system “gives more weight to smaller parties that are perhaps fringe parties.”


Trudeau instead expressed his preference for a ranked ballot system, saying such an approach contributes to less divisive elections.

“I have always been a fan of ranked ballots where people get to choose first choice, second choice, third choice,” he said during a campaign stop in Aurora, Ont. “I think it forces parties to come together and make a pitch to be the second choice of other voters and therefore they are less divisive.”

The Liberal leader first raised the prospect of electoral reform in 2015 by promising that the federal election held that year would be the last to use the first-past-the-post method, a pledge he would ultimately renege on.

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Trudeau added Saturday that moving forward with electoral reform was “not a priority” since there was still no consensus among political parties on the issue.

“If ever there is more of a consensus, it could be interesting to follow up on and I’d be open to that, because I’ve never flinched in my desire for ranked ballots,” he said.

Trudeau was asked about the issue shortly after his party announced it was cutting ties with a Toronto candidate who previously faced a sexual assault charge that was later dropped.

The party said Friday it had learned of the allegations against Kevin Vuong through a report in the Toronto Star a day earlier, and had asked him to “pause” his campaign.

But the party released a statement on Saturday saying Vuong won’t be a Liberal candidate anymore, and if he’s elected to represent Spadina-Fort York on Monday, he will not be a member of the Liberal caucus.

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Vuong denied the allegations against him in a statement Friday, and noted the charge was withdrawn. He did not immediately respond to request for comment on Saturday’s developments.

When asked about the issue on Saturday, Trudeau said the party had followed the processes in place and had “come to the conclusion this individual can no longer be a Liberal candidate in this election.”

He also said his party would continue to improve its candidate vetting process to avoid similar situations in the future.

With only two days before Canadians head to the polls, Trudeau clearly wished to keep his attention firmly fixed on the battle for last-minute votes.

Under sunny skies, he blitzed through a series of stops in Ontario – buying honey at a farmer’s market in Newmarket, doing some lawn bowling in Richmond Hill and dropping by a campaign office to urge volunteers to “go flat out” to get the vote out.

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“Knock on doors, talk to your neighbours,” he urged them.

At most stops, Trudeau was greeted by friendly crowds who swarmed him for selfies, with the occasional protester or heckler throwing insults from the outside.

Over and over, Trudeau repeated his party’s promise to fight climate change and promote vaccines, and insisted Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole would “take Canada backwards.”

Trudeau has been coy in recent days about his own post-election future, saying that he wants to concentrate on Monday’s vote and not engage in speculation.

But on Saturday, he said he’s not done with putting forward his agenda on issues such as climate change, affordable child care and protecting seniors, adding he’s enthusiastic “not only for the days to come, but the years to come together.”

“There is lots of work still to do, and I’m nowhere near done yet,” he said.
 

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Trudeau says he remains open to electoral reform if Liberals re-elected
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Publishing date:Sep 18, 2021 • 15 hours ago • 3 minute read • 179 Comments
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau speaks during an election campaign stop in Aurora, Ont., Saturday, Sept. 18, 2021.
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RICHMOND HILL, Ont. — Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau said Saturday that he remains open to getting rid of Canada’s first-past-the-post electoral system if his party is re-elected, but added that it’s not a priority since there’s no consensus on the issue.

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Trudeau said, however, that he would not favour proportional representation as an alternative, saying the system “gives more weight to smaller parties that are perhaps fringe parties.”


Trudeau instead expressed his preference for a ranked ballot system, saying such an approach contributes to less divisive elections.

“I have always been a fan of ranked ballots where people get to choose first choice, second choice, third choice,” he said during a campaign stop in Aurora, Ont. “I think it forces parties to come together and make a pitch to be the second choice of other voters and therefore they are less divisive.”

The Liberal leader first raised the prospect of electoral reform in 2015 by promising that the federal election held that year would be the last to use the first-past-the-post method, a pledge he would ultimately renege on.

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Trudeau added Saturday that moving forward with electoral reform was “not a priority” since there was still no consensus among political parties on the issue.

“If ever there is more of a consensus, it could be interesting to follow up on and I’d be open to that, because I’ve never flinched in my desire for ranked ballots,” he said.

Trudeau was asked about the issue shortly after his party announced it was cutting ties with a Toronto candidate who previously faced a sexual assault charge that was later dropped.

The party said Friday it had learned of the allegations against Kevin Vuong through a report in the Toronto Star a day earlier, and had asked him to “pause” his campaign.

But the party released a statement on Saturday saying Vuong won’t be a Liberal candidate anymore, and if he’s elected to represent Spadina-Fort York on Monday, he will not be a member of the Liberal caucus.

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Vuong denied the allegations against him in a statement Friday, and noted the charge was withdrawn. He did not immediately respond to request for comment on Saturday’s developments.

When asked about the issue on Saturday, Trudeau said the party had followed the processes in place and had “come to the conclusion this individual can no longer be a Liberal candidate in this election.”

He also said his party would continue to improve its candidate vetting process to avoid similar situations in the future.

With only two days before Canadians head to the polls, Trudeau clearly wished to keep his attention firmly fixed on the battle for last-minute votes.

Under sunny skies, he blitzed through a series of stops in Ontario – buying honey at a farmer’s market in Newmarket, doing some lawn bowling in Richmond Hill and dropping by a campaign office to urge volunteers to “go flat out” to get the vote out.

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“Knock on doors, talk to your neighbours,” he urged them.

At most stops, Trudeau was greeted by friendly crowds who swarmed him for selfies, with the occasional protester or heckler throwing insults from the outside.

Over and over, Trudeau repeated his party’s promise to fight climate change and promote vaccines, and insisted Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole would “take Canada backwards.”

Trudeau has been coy in recent days about his own post-election future, saying that he wants to concentrate on Monday’s vote and not engage in speculation.

But on Saturday, he said he’s not done with putting forward his agenda on issues such as climate change, affordable child care and protecting seniors, adding he’s enthusiastic “not only for the days to come, but the years to come together.”

“There is lots of work still to do, and I’m nowhere near done yet,” he said.
“The Liberal leader first raised the prospect of electoral reform in 2015 by promising that the federal election held that year would be the last to use the first-past-the-post method, a pledge he would ultimately renege on.”

this is part of the reason that Trudo won the election in 2015…. but it was a lie and he never followed up on it…. but played lipservice to it a bit in 2019 Where he lost the popular vote (if he would’ve followed up on his promise in 2015 then the conservatives would’ve won the election in 2019).

Here we are in 2021 with the election that only he wanted….& I am assuming that again the conservatives will win the popular vote and have a quarter million more votes….& The liberals will have more seats (but less than they had in 2019 and much less than they had in 2015) so there’s no reason for him to follow up on his faults promise from three elections ago.

Trudeau is such a lying sack of Shyte & people have fallen for it not once but twice, but hopefully they’ve “woke” up to his ethical shenanigans and falseness before round #3.
 

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“The Liberal leader first raised the prospect of electoral reform in 2015 by promising that the federal election held that year would be the last to use the first-past-the-post method, a pledge he would ultimately renege on.”

this is part of the reason that Trudo won the election in 2015…. but it was a lie and he never followed up on it…. but played lipservice to it a bit in 2019 Where he lost the popular vote (if he would’ve followed up on his promise in 2015 then the conservatives would’ve won the election in 2019).

Here we are in 2021 with the election that only he wanted….& I am assuming that again the conservatives will win the popular vote and have a quarter million more votes….& The liberals will have more seats (but less than they had in 2019 and much less than they had in 2015) so there’s no reason for him to follow up on his faults promise from three elections ago.

Trudeau is such a lying sack of Shyte & people have fallen for it not once but twice, but hopefully they’ve “woke” up to his ethical shenanigans and falseness before round #3.
We as a country never woke up to his father , why would we now ?
 

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“Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me; fool me a third time and I’ll make you regret it.”
Well I can honestly say I was never sucked in by the younger but as a young impressionable young man I was swayed towards the senior . Of course growing up in a Liberal household didn’t help . I had learned by the time he had finished and haven’t voted Liberal since .
 

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We can look forward to the knives coming out if he loses seats .
If he ends up with another minority government, the liberal party will be looking to unload him and his baggage asap. Hopefully, this will happen before he calls yet another election 18 months down the road as he stated he would do in the last French language debate should he not win a majority.