Trump risks major diplomatic dispute with China after speaking with Taiwan president
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Not sure Trump caress ll that much about sensitivity, nuance,Or who he offends..unless it is in HIS best interest. ..." Or kneeing with his motives.
The only one he has not offended is Putin. Accuracy and facts are not his strong suit. One thing is certain. He is extremely biased. and manipulative. He is unpredictable and is now known to backtrack when it suits him. In an unstable world ..these qualities are not ..ideal for the role he is embarking on.
Absolutely!! Not sure he understands the delicacy of this situation or many others he will have to deal with it. Not everything in politics is a business style transaction. (or within his narrow world v view...the bottom line )He is no contest for China.no matter how devious and cunning he thinks he is.Mind you he might try something via twitter.. his favorite platform for "expressing" himself and his angst.
From the 'did you know file'.....
The Obama administration announced the sale Friday of $6 billion worth of Patriot anti-missile systems, helicopters, mine-sweeping ships and communications equipment to Taiwan in a long-expected move that sparked an angry protest from China.
The sale, formally announced by the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, is expected to prompt China to slow or even break military relations with the United States and cancel a visit by President Hu Jintao to Washington in April. Chinese officials have threatened other actions, including sanctions on the U.S. companies supplying the equipment or on businesses in the districts of congressional lawmakers known to be backers of Taiwan.
Its vice minister of foreign affairs, He Yafei, said China was "strongly indignant" about the arms sales to Taiwan and warned that they would have a "serious negative impact" on U.S.-China cooperation.
The United States says weapons sales to Taiwan help to maintain stability in East Asia by making it more difficult for Beijing to bully Taiwan. The United States is legally obligated to provide weapons for Taiwan's defense, under the Taiwan Relations Act.
U.S. sells weapons to Taiwan, angering China
Taiwan Relations Act
Taiwan Relations Act - Council on Foreign Relations
The Obama administration announced the sale Friday of $6 billion worth of Patriot anti-missile systems, helicopters, mine-sweeping ships and communications equipment to Taiwan in a long-expected move that sparked an angry protest from China.
The sale, formally announced by the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, is expected to prompt China to slow or even break military relations with the United States and cancel a visit by President Hu Jintao to Washington in April. Chinese officials have threatened other actions, including sanctions on the U.S. companies supplying the equipment or on businesses in the districts of congressional lawmakers known to be backers of Taiwan.
Its vice minister of foreign affairs, He Yafei, said China was "strongly indignant" about the arms sales to Taiwan and warned that they would have a "serious negative impact" on U.S.-China cooperation.
The United States says weapons sales to Taiwan help to maintain stability in East Asia by making it more difficult for Beijing to bully Taiwan. The United States is legally obligated to provide weapons for Taiwan's defense, under the Taiwan Relations Act.
U.S. sells weapons to Taiwan, angering China
Taiwan Relations Act
Taiwan Relations Act - Council on Foreign Relations
President-elect Donald Trump may have ruffled feathers in Beijing with criticism on trade and Taiwan, but he seems to have struck a chord with the Chinese public.
With the Year of the Rooster approaching, a Trump-inspired sculpture is on display at a shopping centre in Taiyuan, Shanxi province.
The designer told Chinese media he was inspired by both his iconic hairstyle and hand gestures.
The Lunar New Year falls on 28 January.
According to the Chinese zodiac, Donald Trump is a "dog", characterised as loyal, honest and suited to politics, though stubborn and prone to seeing the world as hostile.
Chinese Year of the Rooster marked with huge Trump sculpture - BBC News
With the Year of the Rooster approaching, a Trump-inspired sculpture is on display at a shopping centre in Taiyuan, Shanxi province.
The designer told Chinese media he was inspired by both his iconic hairstyle and hand gestures.
The Lunar New Year falls on 28 January.
According to the Chinese zodiac, Donald Trump is a "dog", characterised as loyal, honest and suited to politics, though stubborn and prone to seeing the world as hostile.
Chinese Year of the Rooster marked with huge Trump sculpture - BBC News
well, the us sold weapons to both sides and ammo too, but only delivered the ammo to the commies
that's how Taiwan came to be in the first place
If Trump is pragmatic and decisive and bold, he will have support around the world from common sense people
something hillary could never own
"To this day no armistice or peace treaty has ever been signed, and there is debate about whether the Civil War has legally ended...however, the two separate states have close economic ties."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War
that's how Taiwan came to be in the first place
If Trump is pragmatic and decisive and bold, he will have support around the world from common sense people
something hillary could never own
"To this day no armistice or peace treaty has ever been signed, and there is debate about whether the Civil War has legally ended...however, the two separate states have close economic ties."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War
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If China imposes sanctions on U.S. manufacturers of weaponry, the U.S. will have to manufacture their own supplies. That will open up more manufacturing jobs in the U.S. Isn't that what Trump promised?
Why the substitute, a clip of how she actually walks would have shown the same 'dance moves'.No reason to post this other than it tickles my sense of humör.
Pretty good deception on the part of China and Trump as they play the 'enemies' and that makes the sheeple come over to cheering a warmer relationship between the US and Russia. The truly sad part is the sheeple were that easily led around, (but used for good in this case) I wonder what plans 'they' have that will make the 'wheels of suspicion' turn again.
The 'movement' was even given a title that could be reduced to 3 letters. Forgot what they were at the moment, I'm pretty sure some other titles would be just as good if not a bit better. MEGA Project works for me as it fits the Make America Great Again slogan already in use. The cartoon of Trump's (well used and a bit dusty) construction boot on top of a tonka toy sized MEGA logo and some of their heavy equipment could be used as props or create the illusion of 'efficient construction' being used in the back-ground.
Russia will have their hands full will the mid-east reconstruction program (OPEC funded thanks to 5 very generous Arab Nations) so America is in a great position to ink some short term trade deals with China which shortens their development time due to them building factories that have a limited life-span and it is the next generation of 'factories' that will do the most of the work for the citizens. Trade will be reduced and local goods would be used whenever possible would be global. That means the heavy loads that do travel between countries (Russia and China) get a new line that reduces travel time to two-days rather than the two-weeks the train takes now.
Google Tours should add that and the Great Wall of China to its Maps program. Virtual homesteading for those that want to get off the 'train'. Real time interacting with other people on the same train. 'Comrade' would be the first name of all passengers and staff with text to speech an option as well as printing your own voice pattern from you reciting the alphabet letter by letter. That would allow you to spell via voice rather than fingers and keys.
America, again, could lead the way again in developing a cheap and long lived VR platform that would have universal appeal and breaks down into a small box for transport yet will lift the family car if that is going to be the 'cockpit' go guide the riders through the movements that are on the screen. Life-raft in a cyclone in the open ocean is supposed to make everyone sea-sick but when they are on a normal boat they no longer get sick. Good prep for those about to take a cruise.
The tour/games vr 'sites' could be made my anybody, including the home user, so their own drone is what is being controlled from the 'family car'
The U.S. is putting regional stability in East Asia at risk, a Chinese spokesman said Saturday following remarks by President Donald Trump’s defense secretary that a U.S. commitment to defend Japanese territory applies to an island group that China claims.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang on Saturday called on the U.S. to avoid discussion of the issue and reasserted China’s claim of sovereignty over the tiny uninhabited islands, known in Japanese as the Senkaku and Chinese as Diaoyu.
The 1960 U.S.-Japan treaty is “a product of the Cold War, which should not impair China’s territorial sovereignty and legitimate rights,” Lu was quoted as saying in a statement posted on the ministry’s website.
“We urge the U.S. side to take a responsible attitude, stop making wrong remarks on the issue involving the Diaoyu islands’ sovereignty, and avoid making the issue more complicated and bringing instability to the regional situation,” Lu said.
On his first trip to Asia as secretary of defense, Mattis explicitly stated in Tokyo that the Trump administration will stick to the previous U.S. stance that the U.S.-Japan security treaty applies to defending Japan’s continued administration of the Senkaku islands.
The islands that lie between Taiwan and Okinawa were under U.S. administration from the end of World War II until their return to Japan in 1972.
China cites historical records for its claim, and Japan’s move to nationalize several of the islands in 2012 set off anti-Japanese riots in China and prompted the government to dispatch ships and planes to the area around them as a challenge to Japanese control.
China lashes out after Mattis backs Japan in islands dispute | New York Post
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang on Saturday called on the U.S. to avoid discussion of the issue and reasserted China’s claim of sovereignty over the tiny uninhabited islands, known in Japanese as the Senkaku and Chinese as Diaoyu.
The 1960 U.S.-Japan treaty is “a product of the Cold War, which should not impair China’s territorial sovereignty and legitimate rights,” Lu was quoted as saying in a statement posted on the ministry’s website.
“We urge the U.S. side to take a responsible attitude, stop making wrong remarks on the issue involving the Diaoyu islands’ sovereignty, and avoid making the issue more complicated and bringing instability to the regional situation,” Lu said.
On his first trip to Asia as secretary of defense, Mattis explicitly stated in Tokyo that the Trump administration will stick to the previous U.S. stance that the U.S.-Japan security treaty applies to defending Japan’s continued administration of the Senkaku islands.
The islands that lie between Taiwan and Okinawa were under U.S. administration from the end of World War II until their return to Japan in 1972.
China cites historical records for its claim, and Japan’s move to nationalize several of the islands in 2012 set off anti-Japanese riots in China and prompted the government to dispatch ships and planes to the area around them as a challenge to Japanese control.
China lashes out after Mattis backs Japan in islands dispute | New York Post
"The U.S. is putting regional stability in East Asia at risk, a Chinese spokesman said Saturday following remarks by President Donald Trump’s defense secretary that a U.S. commitment to defend Japanese territory applies to an island group that China claims"
What stability? Show us a region of the world where there is stability these days
Suppression of any opposition to the ruling powers is not stability . Believing that it is causes instability.
What stability? Show us a region of the world where there is stability these days
Suppression of any opposition to the ruling powers is not stability . Believing that it is causes instability.
The United States plans to sell Taiwan $1.42 billion in arms, the first such sale under the administration of Donald Trump and a move sure to anger China, whose help the president has been seeking to rein in North Korea.
U.S. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters the administration had told Congress of the seven proposed sales on Thursday.
The State Department said the package included technical support for early warning radar, high speed anti-radiation missiles, torpedoes and missile components.
Nauert said the sales showed U.S. "support for Taiwan's ability to maintain a sufficient self-defense capability," but there was no change to the United States' long-standing "one China" policy, which recognizes Beijing and not Taipei.
The United States is the sole arms supplier to Taiwan, which China deems its own and has never renounced the use of force to bring the self-ruled island under its control.
Beijing has given Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen the cold shoulder since she took power last year because she leads an independence-leaning ruling party and refuses to recognize the "one China" policy.
On Friday, Tsai's office said that her government will continue "to seek constructive dialogue with Beijing, and promote positive developments in cross-strait relations."
"(The arms sale) increases Taiwan's confidence and ability to maintain the status quo of peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait," Tsai's office tweeted.
Asked about the sale at an event on Thursday evening in Washington, China's Ambassador Cui Tiankai said the United States was "incorrigible" when it comes to Taiwan, the official party paper the People's Daily reported on its website.
The sale, which requires congressional approval, would be the first to Taiwan under Trump and the first since a $1.83 billion sale that former President Barack Obama announced in December 2015, to China's dismay.
The previous package included two navy frigates in addition to anti-tank missiles and amphibious attack vehicles.
U.S. plans to sell Taiwan about $1.42 billion in arms | Reuters
U.S. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters the administration had told Congress of the seven proposed sales on Thursday.
The State Department said the package included technical support for early warning radar, high speed anti-radiation missiles, torpedoes and missile components.
Nauert said the sales showed U.S. "support for Taiwan's ability to maintain a sufficient self-defense capability," but there was no change to the United States' long-standing "one China" policy, which recognizes Beijing and not Taipei.
The United States is the sole arms supplier to Taiwan, which China deems its own and has never renounced the use of force to bring the self-ruled island under its control.
Beijing has given Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen the cold shoulder since she took power last year because she leads an independence-leaning ruling party and refuses to recognize the "one China" policy.
On Friday, Tsai's office said that her government will continue "to seek constructive dialogue with Beijing, and promote positive developments in cross-strait relations."
"(The arms sale) increases Taiwan's confidence and ability to maintain the status quo of peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait," Tsai's office tweeted.
Asked about the sale at an event on Thursday evening in Washington, China's Ambassador Cui Tiankai said the United States was "incorrigible" when it comes to Taiwan, the official party paper the People's Daily reported on its website.
The sale, which requires congressional approval, would be the first to Taiwan under Trump and the first since a $1.83 billion sale that former President Barack Obama announced in December 2015, to China's dismay.
The previous package included two navy frigates in addition to anti-tank missiles and amphibious attack vehicles.
U.S. plans to sell Taiwan about $1.42 billion in arms | Reuters