Mis and disinformation such as -29° being hotter than -30°? I've heard that from Liberals a Dippers and similar more times tha I can mention.
Trudeau’s Newest New Carbon Tax
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Speaking for Canada, no previous government of any stripe has really been this much concerned with 'misinformation' or information control. Whether future Conservative governments or future Liberal governments will follow the playbook now that the genie is out of the bottle, I cannot say.
One bill, the Saskatchewan Affordability Act, will reduce personal income taxes and save an average family of four more than $3,400 over four years.
The other continues to exempt residents from paying federal carbon levies for home heating, estimated to save about $480 next year for the average family.
“This important legislation will enhance Saskatchewan’s status as the most affordable place in Canada to live, work, raise a family and start a business,” Finance Minister Jim Reiter told the assembly as the bills passed third and final reading. Link, etc…
Saskatchewan passes affordability bills, keeps federal carbon levy off home heating — The Canadian Press
Premier Scott Moe’s government followed through on two fall election promises
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One bill, the Saskatchewan Affordability Act, will reduce personal income taxes and save an average family of four more than $3,400 over four years.
The other continues to exempt residents from paying federal carbon levies for home heating, estimated to save about $480 next year for the average family.
“This important legislation will enhance Saskatchewan’s status as the most affordable place in Canada to live, work, raise a family and start a business,” Finance Minister Jim Reiter told the assembly as the bills passed third and final reading. Link, etc…
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Saskatchewan passes affordability bills, keeps federal carbon levy off home heating — The Canadian Press
Premier Scott Moe’s government followed through on two fall election promisesapple.news
We've had 30 years. 30 fucking years.
Of course , it was and never has been about climate . It is and always has been about government control .
The truth is coming out on the carbon tax
The truth is no match for an honestly told lie. Witness the disconnect between what we know about the carbon tax in Canada and the way it’s perceived by large swathes of the public.
The truth is coming out on the carbon tax
The truth is no match for an honestly told lie. Witness the disconnect between what we know about the carbon tax in Canada and the way it’s perceived by large swathes of the public.www.nationalobserver.com
What’s the Wiki/Coles Notes version?
Weird, I was able to access it.
Basically? Study finds that the Carbon Tax added 0.5% to food prices. That's out of the 26% rise in prices in the past five years.
"As a new paper from University of Calgary economists Trevor Tombe and Jennifer Winter shows, Canada’s carbon tax has added a grand total of 0.5 per cent to food prices. As Tombe noted in a long thread on social media, “that’s a tiny fraction of the 26 per cent rise in food prices in Canada over the past five years.”
This is important and useful academic research. It also comes limping along about three years too late to really matter in the grander scheme of things. Canadians are increasingly opposed to the carbon tax, and increasingly willing to blame it for the increase in food prices that has rocked households and economies across the developed world. "
So the Cons saying that it's the Carbon Tax that has raised food prices is, well, bullshit. But well programmed bullshit, said so much/so often that people believe it now.
And one of the bigger people to claim the CT does add to food prices - and who is used to push the Con talking points - doesn't disprove the study.
"Charlebois’s own research on the subject doesn’t actually seem to disprove their findings. As his own recent paper on the carbon tax’s impact says, “food price inflation is a worldwide phenomenon that has several, diverse causes. Therefore, attributing food price hikes to a single exogenous source without accounting for other factors may only provide a limited understanding of the issue.” In other words, blaming the carbon tax for food price hikes — as Conservative partisans do each and every day — would be a mistake.
The same would seem to apply to the ongoing campaign to exaggerate its broader economic impact. After all, Charlebois’s most recent paper concludes with the observation that “without historical data at the firm level, we cannot provide evidence of the impact of carbon taxes on firm-level competitiveness and economic growth.” So much for the job-killing carbon tax that Conservatives love to talk about.
The problem here — well, one of them — is that this nuanced observation is only available if you read the paper itself rather than the framing of its contents and conclusions on social media. There, and especially on Twitter/X, it’s being presented by partisans as a slam dunk against the carbon tax and its supposedly massive impact on the cost of living. It’s yet another example of the different velocities at which economic facts and political fiction are able to travel, a gap that’s only gotten wider with the advent of speed-enhancing technologies like social media.
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The problem here is they no doubt looked at data and drew conclusions from it. But they cite their conclusions and nobody goes and verifies that their conclusions were correct or even if their data was correct. While I personally don't think inflation is 100% caused by the carbon tax (TrueDope has done a zillion other things that have contributed), I think it is.a bigger contributor than 0.5%. So I am not going to just take one researchers word for it.
Well, you're in luck then. The study was from two people at the U of C. Their paper is out there for a read and here, give you even help with it:
From Farms to Tables: Quantifying the Effect of Emissions Pricing on Canadian Food Prices
We examine the effect of emissions pricing on the cost of Canadian food. We describe emissions pricing policies relevant to the agriculture and food sectors and
papers.ssrn.com
And then there's Sylvain Charlebois paper ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590198224002628 ) which states (as said in the article):
"5. Conclusion
The findings of this study underscore the complexity and challenges in measuring the direct impacts of carbon taxation on the agri-food sector in Canada due to a lack of detailed firm-level data. It highlights the observable effect of carbon taxation on wholesale food prices but calls for further, more granular research to understand the broader implications on food affordability and security. Food price inflation is a worldwide phenomenon that has several, diverse causes. Therefore, attributing food price hikes to a single exogeneous source without accounting for other factors may only provide a limited understanding of the issue. This need for deeper investigation reflects the intricacies of carbon taxation's effects across different levels of the food supply chain, underscoring the necessity for targeted studies to elucidate the specific impacts on food prices and market competitiveness within Canada.
Carbon tax plans are favoured by politicians to incentivize enterprises to implement more environmentally friendly manufacturing methods, with the goal of guiding a specific sector towards a sustainable reduction in carbon emissions. Our findings suggest that carbon taxes can affect a firm's long-term competitive advantages, financial benefits, and production decisions, potentially influencing profitability and competitive advantage. Yet, without historical data at the firm level, we cannot provide evidence of the impact of carbon taxes on firm-level competitiveness and economic growth. Future study in this area should focus on analyzing data at the firm level, if compelled to be accessible, to gain a comprehensive understanding of the effects of the carbon price on individual businesses."
I find it funny that someone did a "deeper investigation" and now it's "not valid" because it doesn't fit the narrative that the Carbon Tax adds more to food prices than people claim.
But maybe you're right, there needs to be more study. Two studies don't necessarily prove it's true, after all.
Right?
Some are passed on with a surcharge. A fuel surcharge is quite common here. Even by the provincial government.
Who paid the "researchers"? And did they include the carbon scam tax farmers paid on their fuel? Or the delivery of parts to the farm?
Well, UofC is well known for radical left bias. So That indicates not much fact and lots of feelings.
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‘It’s a crisis’: Regina homeless count sees 824, double 2021 number
The point-in-time count of those experiencing homelessness quadrupled since 2015.
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How many houses and multi units have been burned since 2021?This was the fourth point-in-time count done in Regina, and at 824 it is more than twice as many as were counted in 2021 — 408 — and more than three times more than the first count in 2015 — 232.
‘It’s a crisis’: Regina homeless count sees 824, double 2021 number
The point-in-time count of those experiencing homelessness quadrupled since 2015.