Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case

Mowich

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Yeah OK, if you think so, whatever Lol
Sorry TM but Hoid got this one right. She stated that she felt she should stay in her role as AG to protect the office but once she was removed from office she had every opportunity to resign or at least come forward with her concerns. It is and will continue to be a legitimate question that she will have to keep dodging. She showed such integrity in standing up for her office it is too bad that did not continue once she was demoted.
 

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Pretty much contradicts everything being said today, the crux of your argument is exactly why this hearing is happening the independence of the AG office to do the right thing not the JT thing
Not at all. She did the right thing by exposing the pressure she was under but the wrong thing by not resigning.
 

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Not at all. She did the right thing by exposing the pressure she was under but the wrong thing by not resigning.


OK, weirdly, Jody W-R is only allowed to speak of events regarding the SNC Lavolin goat rodeo up to January 14th, 2019 when the cabinet shuffle happened....and she resigned February 12th, 2019. What was said in the month between those dates that lead up to her resigning regarding SNC Lavolin that needs to be gagged from the public record? That missing month may explain the delay in her resignation (...or not...but it's got my curiosity). What if she believed the hype about the cabinet shuffle on January 14th, and then had her nose rubbed in the do-do stating she was being spanked for not buckling on or about February 11th by hearing someone else lie publicly to the media regarding meetings she was involved in where she realized she was being thrown under the bus???


Who spoke publicly about Jody W-R & the SNC Lavolin goat rodeo the day before she resigned? What happened in the month before her resignation that she's not allowed to speak of?
 

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This is from the time line on this drama the day before the J.Wilson-Raybould resignation is announced:

Feb. 11 – Ethics commissioner Mario Dion says he’s beginning an investigation. Trudeau says he’s spoken to Wilson-Raybould and confirmed with her that he said any decision on the SNC-Lavalin prosecution was entirely hers. Her continued presence in his cabinet speaks for itself, he says.

 

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Our first one term PM since Bennett.
Make it so. After listening to his insipid remarks in Montreal following the hearings today, it appears he is in for the short run- up to the election. Along with yet again throwing Wilson-Raybould under the bus it appears as if her tenure as a liberal MP could quickly come to an end.

"I completely disagree with the former attorney general’s version of events,” he said, adding he had not ruled out whether she will remain a Liberal MP or be allowed to run for the party in the fall election.

“I haven’t listened to all her testimony and I won’t decide before I do.”

If I have to listen to him refer to former PM Harper once more I may just throw up. It is obvious he is so out of his depth that he figures raising the specter of his favorite boogeyman will be all he needs to win another election. If that is truly what he believes - he's got another think coming.
 

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Thus our elected imbecile ONLY hears what boot licking LIE-berals WANT him to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, spilledthebeer, this font size is a lot easier to read. We don't need a billboard to know that you're no fan of Liberals or LIE-berals or however you wanna spell it.

In all honesty, when I see your big fonts I just sort of scroll by, but not because I disagree with the content. It's because it's firking annoying and like reading something written and performed by Gilbert Gottfried.

Here's a pic of Gilbert in case you don't know him.


Just saying.
 

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The sex side of the SNC scandal
Brian Lilley
Published:
February 27, 2019
Updated:
February 27, 2019 9:15 PM EST
In this file photo taken on April 13, 2012, SNC-Lavalin's headquarters in Montreal, Quebec.GUILLAUME LAVALLEE / AFP/Getty Images
The SNC-Lavalin affair has had allegations of bribery, political intrigue and a major cover-up, all that was missing was sex.
Now we have the sex component!
A report by Montreal’s La Presse newspaper says that SNC-Lavalin allegedly paid for a sex-filled trip across Canada for the son of the late Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.
“Naked dancers, porn movies and many, many, many prostitutes,” the story states.
related links Wilson-Raybould: I was pushed, got veiled threats on SNC-Lavalin
MARIN: SNC-Lavalin affair goes to the core of our democracy
BONOKOSKI: Is SNC-Lavalin ‘fix’ in play?
Saadi Gaddafi was supposedly working on development issues, specifically making Libya a “new Hong Kong” in North Africa, instead it was all about sex.
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Security firm Garda World was hired by SNC to escort Gaddafi across the country as he picked up escorts in city after city.
The total bill was more than $30,000 and one Vancouver escort agency charged as much as $10,000 for a single session.
Bills from other escort agencies ranged from $600 to $7,500 per session.
Previous stories about the relationship between SNC-Lavalin and the Gaddafi family noted the lavish trips the company had paid for and the placement of Saadi Gaddafi’s wife was on the company payroll during the Libyan civil war.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/the-sex-side-of-the-snc-scandal
 

spilledthebeer

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Now the question may be asked: why did you not resign?

If the Prime Minister (or his proxy) asks something of you that you are unable to do then it would be parliamentary tradition for you to tender your resignation and allow the PM to appoint someone who might do what he wants done.

You are only talking about a legal opinion.

Also she has no race-based ability to determine truth.

It all reeks of the sort of entitlement that these politicians develop when they serve in a particular office for a long time.

You only fill that office temporarily. It does not belong to you.




POOR STUPID HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are really grasping at SH+T SMEARED STRAWS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wilson-Raybould -lets call her JWB for short like the news media is now doing- testified she HAD ELEVEN DIFFERENT SENIOR LIE-berals after her over Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So why did JWB not resign?????????????????????????????


One reason might be for fear vindictive LIE-berals WOULD RUIN HER CAREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Remember - before she entered politics she was a crown prosecutor in B. C !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Would she have been able to get RE-HIRED as a prosecutor in our LIE-beral dominated legal system if she was labelled as HOSTILE to LIE-beral party???????????????????


Just HOW FAR would LIE-beral vengeance go if she resigned??????????????????????????????????


LOOK at how LIE-berals were apparently ready to pervert the legal system on behalf of Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND THE KEY ISSUE IS THIS ONE- that the Charbonneau Inquiry heard specific testimony that MULTIPLE engineering firms were involved in election funding fraud that favoured LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yet ONLY Lavalin was investigated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is sound reason to believe we have not yet reached the bottom of this LIE-beral barrel of SH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



JWB has more legal protection as an MP than as a private citizen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Besides which- as I have said- SHE IS A LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And she appears ready to try to ride out the storm and has told us she will seek re-election as a LIE-beral in October!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Will she succeed in October???????????????????????


Who knows.................................but one thing we CAN be sure of is that so far she is the CLEANEST of the LIE-beral gang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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The sex side of the SNC scandal
Brian Lilley
Published:
February 27, 2019
Updated:
February 27, 2019 9:15 PM EST
In this file photo taken on April 13, 2012, SNC-Lavalin's headquarters in Montreal, Quebec.GUILLAUME LAVALLEE / AFP/Getty Images
The SNC-Lavalin affair has had allegations of bribery, political intrigue and a major cover-up, all that was missing was sex.
Now we have the sex component!
A report by Montreal’s La Presse newspaper says that SNC-Lavalin allegedly paid for a sex-filled trip across Canada for the son of the late Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.
“Naked dancers, porn movies and many, many, many prostitutes,” the story states.
related links Wilson-Raybould: I was pushed, got veiled threats on SNC-Lavalin
MARIN: SNC-Lavalin affair goes to the core of our democracy
BONOKOSKI: Is SNC-Lavalin ‘fix’ in play?
Saadi Gaddafi was supposedly working on development issues, specifically making Libya a “new Hong Kong” in North Africa, instead it was all about sex.
Story continues below
This advertisement has not loaded yet,
but your article continues below.
Security firm Garda World was hired by SNC to escort Gaddafi across the country as he picked up escorts in city after city.
The total bill was more than $30,000 and one Vancouver escort agency charged as much as $10,000 for a single session.
Bills from other escort agencies ranged from $600 to $7,500 per session.
Previous stories about the relationship between SNC-Lavalin and the Gaddafi family noted the lavish trips the company had paid for and the placement of Saadi Gaddafi’s wife was on the company payroll during the Libyan civil war.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/the-sex-side-of-the-snc-scandal




OH WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now the SORDID TALE of LIE-beral scandal and election FRAUD HAS IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-BERALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To corrupt to lead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To stupid to follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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The Prime Minister on CBC at the moment, pouring cold water on all the white nattys
 

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In reading the comments by former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould, in her testimony Wednesday at the House of Commons justice committee are sure interesting.
The expected reaction by Justin Trudeau (herein after referred to as Just-in), is text book talk by the Liberals. One thing that we as Canadians should be aware of is that “this is the way that the Lying Liberals have run the government for 150 years (when they were in power) and it is about time that we got used to it.”
I did note that Just-in in his rebuttal to her comments said that he did not do anything wrong, (maybe in the eyes of the Liberals) and I noted he did so with a straight face. Are we seeing him say this all the time (lying with a straight face) or did he use the last week and a half taking a refresher coursed on same?
So now that Just-in did not get his way to convince her to let SNC-Lavalin off the hook on bribery charges, what revenge can he inflict on her, and not be obvious in the eyes of the public that are not Liberal supporters? Should he decide to use revenge again, would he run the risk that she can provide further evidence that he did wrong? We will have to wait and see what he will do, should he chose to get revenge or be a man and admit that he erred and ask to move on.
I have copied a quote from an article written on February 27, 2019. Wilson-Raybould believed Privy Council clerk Michael Wernick was issuing "veiled threats" to her in a phone call they had on Dec. 19, 2018, in which he told her that the prime minister was still concerned and wanted to know why a deferred-prosecution agreement wasn't being pursued. She said Wernick told her: "I think (the prime minister) is going to find a way to get it done one way or another. He is in that kind of mood and I wanted you to be aware of it."
What would anybody do when the question of ethics is raised about what was said by Michael Wernick? It sounds like Just-in is trying to convince her to vote his way or go down the highway? Would Just-in be using this to buy votes in Quebec, knowing that SNC-Lavalin would stop giving the Lying Liberals campaign money or worse than that, stop giving him money in his secret bank account in Switzerland?

We are told on the internet that Just-in has given away 13.849 BILLION DOLLARS to other countries and charitable foundations. Is there a chance that Just-in is giving away this money, with the creation of debt, without any strings attached? Canadian should be aware that this money should be repaid sometime and just the interest on that money, at 2% is $277,000,000, that the government cannot use to help Canadians.
Fellow Canadians should be aware that when we hear that Quebec is more corrupt than Africa, should we trust Just-in to be not corrupt? Did he learn to be corrupt from his father, or did he learn same from his fellow Lying Liberals? Ask him in the House of Commons!
 

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Jody Wilson-Raybould “told the truth about Justin Trudeau.
I think he’s going to jail.”


Ezra Levant of The Rebel.media reports on Jody Wilson-Raybould's testimony about Justin Trudeau, Gerald Butts, the PMO, and the Privy Council Clerk conspiring to pressure her to drop criminal charges against a corrupt company called SNC Lavalin.
https://www.therebel.media/jody-wil...rebel-media-ezra-levant-show-february-27-2019
 

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Unlike Trump, Trudeau Is In Real Trouble

SNC-Lavalin scandal a ‘constitutional crisis,’ lawyers say

OTTAWA—The SNC-Lavalin scandal has blown up into a “constitutional crisis,” lawyers say, after former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould’s shocking testimony Wednesday.
It’s clear Wilson-Raybould was removed from her position as justice minister for “doing her job,” said Mary-Ellen Turpel-Lafond, a former Saskatchewan provincial court judge who currently teaches and practises law.
“It’s fair to say it’s a constitutional crisis,” Turpel-Lafond said Wednesday night.
The events, as outlined by Wilson-Raybould in marathon testimony before the House of Commons justice committee, “shake the foundations of our very system,” Turpel-Lafond said.
Wilson-Raybould told MPs she was repeatedly and inappropriately pressured by senior members of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s staff, as well as the country’s top bureaucrat, to cut a deal for SNC-Lavalin to avoid criminal trial on charges of fraud and corruption.
Instead, Wilson-Raybould said the Prime Minister’s Office was pushing for a “deferred prosecution agreement,” which would allow the Quebec construction giant to pay a fine and overhaul its corporate governance.
Wilson-Raybould refused, and found herself shuffled to a different cabinet portfolio in January.
Former Ontario attorney general Michael Bryant agreed the scandal amounts to a constitutional crisis, saying Trudeau seems insistent on “interfering with the prosecution.”
“That conflicts with a system that requires independence from political influence. It opens the door to prosecuting enemies of the government and giving immunity to its friends which is despotic,” Bryant, who is now the executive director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, told the Star.
He said the actions of the PMO, as laid out by Wilson-Raybould, undermine public faith in the independence of the judicial process.
In the fallout from Wilson-Raybould’s testimony, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer called on Trudeau and Michael Wernick, the clerk of the privy council, to resign.
Irwin Cotler, a former Liberal attorney general of Canada, said he doesn’t believe Trudeau should step down or that “there was an intent on the part of the government to cross the line.”
“I believe that they felt they were asking her to engage in what they believed was a matter of public policy for the importance of Canada and the importance of Quebec, jobs and the like, which she acknowledged was OK,” Cotler said.
But at a minimum, Turpel-Lafond said the RCMP’s integrity section must investigate, noting that 11 highly placed people in the PMO, the public service and cabinet were named by Wilson-Raybould as lobbying her or her staff on the issue.
“The consequences for that is that our reputation as a nation of the rule of law will be in tatters if we do not take steps,” Turpel-Lafond said.
“And the steps need to be significant, decisive.”
 

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Ms Raybould said Mr Trudeau had not done anything illegal.

So if she told the truth...
 

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Don't look now, here comes Freeland to Justin's rescue Lol

Top ally supports embattled Canada PM, easing pressure for now

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Thursday won the public support of a top political ally, indicating there is no immediate pressure inside his Liberal Party to oust him over a political scandal.
Trudeau, rejecting an opposition call for his resignation, disputed allegations on Wednesday by his former justice minister that government officials inappropriately pressured her to help the SNC-Lavalin construction firm avoid a corruption trial
The testimony from Jody Wilson-Raybould threatens to badly damage the Liberals just months ahead of what polls suggest will be a hard-fought election.
In an unusual move, Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland appeared on the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. to say she fully backed Trudeau.
"I have 100 percent faith in the prime minister," she said.
Freeland, one of the most prominent members of Trudeau's Cabinet, is seen by some observers as a possible successor to Trudeau.
One top official said there was no talk for now of a leadership challenge. But another senior member of the Liberal Party said there was growing unhappiness among legislators about how Trudeau's team had handled the matter and said the prime minister needed to replace some of his staff.
Wilson-Raybould said she had confronted Trudeau in September over what she said were persistent efforts by officials to help SNC-Lavalin evade trial on charges of bribing Libyan officials. Wilson-Raybould said she made clear she was not prepared help the company avoid a trial, which is now pending.
SNC-Lavalin is a major employer in the province of Quebec, where the Liberals have said they need to pick up seats to stand a chance of retaining a majority government.
Trudeau was due to speak to reporters at about 11:15 a.m. EST (1615 GMT) and Finance Minister Bill Morneau has a news conference scheduled for noon.
Wilson-Raybould said Morneau's staff had continued to press her to help the firm even after she asked them to stop.
Wilson-Raybould was unexpectedly demoted in January and resigned from the Cabinet this month. She said she was convinced the SNC-Lavalin case had prompted her demotion.