Oh, it's not that unique now, is it? Don't be so modest! It really doesn't suit you.
Trudeau Was a Disaster for Canada
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Oh, it's not that unique now, is it? Don't be so modest! It really doesn't suit you.
David Frum is held in the highest regards by the liberal Party of Canada as evidenced by the implicit support that the Libs have expressed on Frum's analysis of PET.
I can appreciate that this realistic info on Trudeau is nothing short of disappointing for you, but if I may make a recommendation, you would be wise to accept these facts and join the rest of us here in the real world
David Frum is a notorious internationalist bull****ter. Whatever he recommends should be avoided at any cost if necessary. There are far to many dual and triple passport holders in Ottawa and Canada for that matter. It is hard to established their loyalties.
Do not rue the day here Liberalman... Again, I know that this realization is difficult, but don't interpret this as a complete abandonment of everything related to PET... Sure, he created far more damage than he did any real benefit, but that's not to say that he had no redeeming qualities.
For starters, I understand that he was a very sharp dresser in addition to the fact that he was a passable academic... maybe it's things like these that you should found your appreciation of the man.
With time, you'll generate a new found appreciation, but all I'm really saying here is to not set the bar too high with respect to PET. That doesn't mean he wasn't a reasonably average man - hardly!..
He just wasn't cut from the same cloth of people that are considered great
For the existence for a greater Canada PET was the right leader to bring this country from behind the shadows of America and that is what makes him great and an important leader it's just too bad that the federal Conservatives is trying to erase his accomplishments.
It pains me to keep throwing a dash of cold water onto your fantasy here Liberalman.. As everyone here at CC knows, I hold a neutral opinion of PET.. I am simply applying the most objective of judgements of the man without any prejudice or reservations.... This is why you can trust my recommendations and analyses.
Regrettably, those comments you posted about his accomplishments are simply untrue. Canada never developed an identity until PET was thrown out of office... .You see; it was the actions of the voting public that galvanized and truly defined the strong reputation and identity that we enjoy today.
Pretty much a dead heat there I think- both over whelmed with their own sense of self importance.
Ya, you said that before. Along with a few other things.
I asked for you to expand on yourclaims, and you ignored my post.
I disagree. Canada's identity is a sum of all its parts, ranging from the aboriginal nations before Cartier founded Montreal and Q.C., through all the imperial struggles of Britain and France (and their nebulous alliances with various first nations) as they sought North American (and global) dominance. It extends through the struggles of a developing colony and a fledgling nation. It was forged on World War One battlefields, like the Somme and Paschendaele, in the labs of Banting and Best, and numerous others. Canada existed before Trudeau was born, never mind took office, and his "vision" was a fleeting image of utopian Quebec nationalism and anti-Americanism, more than one of true Canadian equality. As a nation we do struggle to define ourselves but both before and after, Canada is not what PET wanted to forge.
But expanding would take all the short and flippant out of the short and flippant commentary. You can see the problem.
Finally someone said it like it is. After all the brutal attacks by Trudeau and all those other bad guys,
Canada is still one of the best places in the world to live.
As much as I couldn't stand Mulrony or Diefenbaker, I can't see where they did more than superficial damage
to the country.
We wondered about bilingualism and multi-whatever when he pushed em through.
Not for long though.
Jesus, think of the money that prick cost us.
To say nothing of the non rights Anglos have in Que.
Not for long though.
Jesus, think of the money that prick cost us.
To say nothing of the non rights Anglos have in Que.
Pet had no substance neither his son , just in the actor.
Personally ,I see this country being to large to be governed by one person but that is another topic.
Personally ,I see this country being to large to be governed by one person but that is another topic.
Trudeau was an enigma he was both good and bad as it were. The problem is the
present government is his biggest rival and will prove to be far worse than anything
Trudeau could have done. Paul Martin has us back on the road to financial righting
of the ship and Harpie has sunk us further into debt than any government in modern
history. Calling out Trudeau for his sins by conservatives is like throwing smurf balls
at glass structures.
present government is his biggest rival and will prove to be far worse than anything
Trudeau could have done. Paul Martin has us back on the road to financial righting
of the ship and Harpie has sunk us further into debt than any government in modern
history. Calling out Trudeau for his sins by conservatives is like throwing smurf balls
at glass structures.