Trudeau talks to Every Day Canadians in Countrywide Town Halls

[Twin_Moose]

He did well to keep the focus on what was important here - torture.


Everything else is just a consequence of the failure of the Harper government.

Are you purposely avoiding mentioning the Chretian/Martin Gov. that sent the CSIS agents down to Gitmo to interrogate him and refuse him entry to Canada. Harper just upheld their decision not to allow him back into the country

 

[mentalfloss]

And that's why Trudeau confidently addressed the question to include all prior governments and why we need to prevent unwarranted deportation and avoid torture of Canadian citizens regardless of who they are.

 

[Twin_Moose]

And that's why Trudeau confidently addressed the question to include all prior governments and why we need to prevent unwarranted deportation and avoid torture of Canadian citizens regardless of who they are.

We never paid for torture we paid for the CSIS handling of information and not recognizing Canadian citizenship by not requesting his return to Canada

 

[Hoid]

could all have been avoided if Harper had just taken this guy back when the americans tried to unload him

 

[Twin_Moose]

could all have been avoided if Harper had just taken this guy back when the americans tried to unload him

Or Chretian, or Martin

 

[mentalfloss]

We never paid for torture we paid for the CSIS handling of information and not recognizing Canadian citizenship by not requesting his return to Canada

We paid for the fallout of allowing this to happen in the first place.

Or Chretian, or Martin

And that's why Trudeau confidently addressed the question to include all prior governments and why we need to prevent unwarranted deportation and avoid torture of Canadian citizens regardless of who they are.

 

[pgs]

We paid for the fallout of allowing this to happen in the first place.

We bent over and said how deep . Just to keep the Liberal brand from taking a hit

 

[Decapoda]

could all have been avoided if Harper had just taken this guy back when the americans tried to unload him

Nope. The Supreme court ruled that the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments violated Khadr's rights (Section 7 of the Charter to be exact) in 2003-04 when it sent CSIS agents to Gitmo to interview him and turned their findings over to the Tribunal prosecutors to help convict Khadr.

Taking him back after the fact would have made no difference in the outcome. What would have possibly made a difference however, is if Trudeau would have allowed this to case to be judged in court rather than paying him off. Regardless of the resulting legal outcome, it would have set a legal precedent, not a social one. But junior isn't smart enough to figure that one out.

 

[Hoid]

There is little doubt that cretien and Martin committed TG he original offences against this boy, but it was Harper who derailed his repatriation.

 

[Decapoda]

There is little doubt that cretien and Martin committed TG he original offences against this boy, but it was Harper who derailed his repatriation.

To which the Supreme court gave no ruling of any rights violations. Khadr's lawsuit was based on the Supreme Court ruling of violations by the Government committed in 2003-04. Harper's actions had no bearing whatsoever on the lawsuit or the payout.

Funny...Trudeau declares that Canadians should be angry that the settlement had to be paid, but he fails to specify exactly where that anger should be directed... at the Liberal government. What they should be even more angry with is the fact that Trudeau interfered with the legal process and cut off the suit being heard by a court of law, which would have undoubtedly lifted the veil and reminded Canadians exactly who owns this.

 

[Jinentonix]

And that's why Trudeau confidently addressed the question to include all prior governments and why we need to prevent unwarranted deportation and torture of Canadian citizens regardless of who they are.

And you seriously believe that Trudeau is doing just that? Despite the fact that a while back I posted a CBC article explaining how Trudeau in his first 6 months as PM deported and/or stripped the citizenship from more "Canadians who were Canadians who were Canadians" than all previous federal govts combined over the last 30 years, and often without hearing. The bulk of whom fell into the exact same category as Maryam Monsef who is not being deported or stripped of her citizenship and still gets to keep her cushy Trudeau appointed cabinet position.

As for torture, why the f*ck do Muslims get multi-millions while Canadians who were tortured at the hands of their own govt are very quietly handed a hundred grand to never speak of it again? Yeah, Trudeau is looking after Canadian citizens "regardless of who they are", and my ass pumps buttermilk. Would you like a glass?

 

[Hoid]

To which the Supreme court gave no ruling of any rights violations. Khadr's lawsuit was based on the Supreme Court ruling of violations by the Government committed in 2003-04. Harper's actions had no bearing whatsoever on the lawsuit or the payout.

Funny...Trudeau declares that Canadians should be angry that the settlement had to be paid, but he fails to specify exactly where that anger should be directed... at the Liberal government. What they should be even more angry with is the fact that Trudeau interfered with the legal process and cut off the suit being heard by a court of law, which would have undoubtedly lifted the veil and reminded Canadians exactly who owns this.

The supreme Court ruled that Canada was complicit in n the torture of the boy

 

[pgs]

The supreme Court ruled that Canada was complicit in n the torture of the boy

Boy . Good send him to juvenile detention .Making explosive devices and throwing grenades are illegal in Canuckistan .

 

[Cannuck]

Making explosive devices and throwing grenades are illegal in Canuckistan .

Do you support the detention of every Canadian soldier that threw a grenade in Afghanistan?

 

[petros]

I laughed hard when a young gal asked Trudeau “I was just curious as to how you feel about being the first prime minister being found guilty of a federal crime?”

Do you support the detention of every Canadian soldier that threw a grenade in Afghanistan?

It depends who they threw them at wouldn't it Putz?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Do you support the detention of every Canadian soldier that threw a grenade in Afghanistan?

I'd support the detention of every Canadian soldier that threw a grenade in Afghanistan at an NCO but even then, there could be all sorts of mitigating circumstances.

 

[White_Unifier]

I'd support the detention of every Canadian soldier that threw a grenade in Afghanistan at an NCO but even then, there could be all sorts of mitigating circumstances.

What should be the punishment? Juggling grenades? No pressure of course.

 

[Curious Cdn]

What should be the punishment? Juggling grenades? No pressure of course.

Actually, all levity aside. I was at Valcartier for a few days in very early 1975 and I saw the blown-out wooden shack where those poor Cadets were maimed and killed by a grenade ... caution tape still wrapped around it.

It really is nothing to joke about.

But some of those NCOs ...

 

[Jinentonix]

Hardley, since when you become an idiot Trumptard..

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I understand why Trudeau is so popular to the educated, cultured Canadians,

:lol: Why? Because he memorized a prepared statement? F*ck, it sure don't take much to impress you, does it. :lol:

 

[Cannuck]

Do you support the detention of every Canadian soldier that threw a grenade in Afghanistan?

I see my question has embarrassed pgs and confused Pete. Can't say I'm surprised.