Trudeau supports doctor assisted suicide ruling for personal reasons
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All of us are definitely heading for death and for a very few a fairly accurate time line can be put on it, but for many the time is just speculation.
Pure BS from our little twit of a PM. He's lying again, and drenching himself in saccharine pathos as is his wont.
Pain is, in fact, extremely manageable at our level of medical technology. Most of us have had relatives or friends who've died of cancer or other wasting illness and know this. The 'intolerability' of pain is a recent phenomenon in our society.. at a time when modern science is most able to relieve it.
It corresponds directly to the loss of any sense of a supernatural quality or meaning to life, EXCEPT, in the avoidance of pain. The promotion of euthenasia, abortion, homosexuality, reflected in a catastrophically diminished fertility rate, are all symptomatic of a society in a profound crisis of faith.
It is no accident that this issue presented itself when the birthrate has fallen below replacement levels. With ever fewer young people to keep our economy vital and support an aging population.. the old and the infirm suddenly become intolerable burdens.
We've had end of life issues for 2000 years in our civilization... we've muddled through. In fact, in more hopeful times, we viewed final suffering as a saving grace, from which divine reconciliation and redemption are forged.
It's only when our society became steeped in pessismism, futility and morbidity.. .. in atheism as the state sponsored ideology.. did it suddenly become an obligation of the government to aid and abet suicide. It's the product of a very sick counter credo.
But's that's all beyond the little dimwit. I think its really pathetic of Justin to drag his father into this.. and assume that Pierre, who had the vestiges of a Catholic faith at the time of his death, would choose this cowardly and soul destroying option. Justin simply mustered him in posthumously to support a political position. He's really quite unconscionable.
Pain is, in fact, extremely manageable at our level of medical technology. Most of us have had relatives or friends who've died of cancer or other wasting illness and know this. The 'intolerability' of pain is a recent phenomenon in our society.. at a time when modern science is most able to relieve it.
It corresponds directly to the loss of any sense of a supernatural quality or meaning to life, EXCEPT, in the avoidance of pain. The promotion of euthenasia, abortion, homosexuality, reflected in a catastrophically diminished fertility rate, are all symptomatic of a society in a profound crisis of faith.
It is no accident that this issue presented itself when the birthrate has fallen below replacement levels. With ever fewer young people to keep our economy vital and support an aging population.. the old and the infirm suddenly become intolerable burdens.
We've had end of life issues for 2000 years in our civilization... we've muddled through. In fact, in more hopeful times, we viewed final suffering as a saving grace, from which divine reconciliation and redemption are forged.
It's only when our society became steeped in pessismism, futility and morbidity.. .. in atheism as the state sponsored ideology.. did it suddenly become an obligation of the government to aid and abet suicide. It's the product of a very sick counter credo.
But's that's all beyond the little dimwit. I think its really pathetic of Justin to drag his father into this.. and assume that Pierre, who had the vestiges of a Catholic faith at the time of his death, would choose this cowardly and soul destroying option. Justin simply mustered him in posthumously to support a political position. He's really quite unconscionable.
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I absolutely agree with you Nick, and I think the main criteria should be that the patient is irreparably ill!
Take a look at the Netherlands or Belgium as to where this 'freedom' is leading.
Palliative care has all but disappeared as has medical research into prolonging life, leaving terminally ill no options of dignified care. Government insurance corporations refuse to compensate end of life medicine... leaving the ill with no options but to incur ruinous medical expenses.
In Belgium children can be euthenised if their 'caregiver' deems them to lack 'quality of life'. At least 10%, but likely far more, of patients euthenised in the Netherlands in fact have never given their permission.. they are simply murdered out of convenience.. or some trumped up 'living will' attested to by some relative who stands to benefit from the death. It has become common now for patients to submit a will to a notary of lawyer prohibiting euthenasia.. to prevent their being murdered in hospital
This has nothing to do with freedom. You are perfectly free to take your own life in our society. That's always been the case. Obliging that state to do it for you is another thing entirely.
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If it is the freedom of that same individual, then yes. It is their life and death for better or worse. Their decision.
The state doesnt have to do it. This would allow for others to assist. Doesnt have to be the state. If a person wants to die and someone else is willing to help - fine.
Some of the provisions in this bill seem to be the kind of things pro-lifers want to put into abortion legislation to obstruct access. Since this is about life/death and bodily autonomy it seems like the reasons why the supreme court struck down abortion legislation would apply here.
About 40 years ago Richard Bloch of H & R Bloch was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and given months to live, but he said Nah and went to Texas for treatment after which he was cured and lived another 20 or 30 years, so I'm skeptical about these "terminal" diagnoses. I think assisted suicide is good for People in old age whose organs are all shutting down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bloch
I wouldn't kill a fly.Absolutely, as long as you kill 2 or 3 bureaucraps first!
Every little soul terminated by yer ego weighs heavy onya. There's that constilation.
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Good point! But I think you have to give most patients the benefit of the doubt......................at least until the ravens start moving in!