Trudeau Liberals to Overhaul National Energy Board

Decapoda

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Trudeau-appointed panel recommends replacing NEB

A panel of experts appointed by the Trudeau government is recommending the shutdown of Canada's scandal-plagued pipeline regulator.

In a groundbreaking 88-page report, the panel made 26 sweeping recommendations, including the replacement of the Calgary-based regulator, the National Energy Board (NEB), with a new Ottawa-based organization called the Canadian Energy Transmission Commission. It also recommended the creation of a new energy information agency.

The panel said its recommendations would be consistent with emerging energy trends as new pipelines projects become "fewer and fewer in the future."

While a new energy regulator wouldn't necessarily need a change of mandate per se, it added, the regulator should operate under the assumption that Canada's new economy will include a greater emphasis on renewables.



All the dominoes are being put into place by Butts and Trudeau. It's really not that difficult to see what Trudeau's true intentions are regarding ultimate control of pipelines and movement of the flow of oil in this country.
 
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They are confusing the NEP and NEB, NEP(National Energy Program) set up by PET after the energy crises trying to nationalize the petroleum industry. The NEB(National Energy Board) set up after Inter provincial pipeline providers were constructing pipelines with different construction/operating procedures in each province, standardising them to the same rules/procedures across Canada, Pipelines that stay within the borders of a province operate under Provincial rules and regulations.

What JT is doing is bastardising the NEB into a joke that won't do anything but create confusion and put silly demands on Energy companies, I can see the Libs using this board to finish what PET started to Nationalize energy and take them out of the control of the Provinces.
 
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What JT is doing is bastardising the NEB into a joke that won't do anything but create confusion and put silly demands on Energy companies, I can see the Libs using this board to finish what PET started to Nationalize energy and take them out of the control of the Provinces.

What he's doing is turning the slow, complicated, and punitive approval process for natural resource projects into an impossible, insurmountable barrier. Wonder why he's doing that?? Hmm.
 

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Yep and they had one it was the model the developed world followed, this new direction is a step backward putting hurt feelings at the same benchmark as public and environmental safety is a farce.
 

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really? Other countries fired all the scientists who worked on their studies ?

Not much of a model
 

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Canada needs a credible review process.

Moving to a new Ottawa-based commission and creating another separate agency sure as hell isn't going to forward that cause. In fact, the opposite.

really? Other countries fired all the scientists who worked on their studies ?

Who did what again??

Love to see a cite on that, but I know you can't provide one...it's been entertaining watching you talk out of your ass again.
 

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really? Other countries fired all the scientists who worked on their studies ?

Not much of a model

Oh Hoid for a guy that has written a couple of times that he worked in the industry you sure don't know much. The NEB lead the world in transitioning Interprovincial pipelines in respect for environmental responsibility, setting up soil classifications for soil removal following the sand hill debacle in the late 70's. Setting up endangered wildlife protocols following the harm that was being placed on the swift fox and burrowing owls habitat, changing protocols on water crossings due to post construction erosion. Enforcing pre-construction environmental impact studies to reduce the impact to the environment, etc.

The pendulum was already started swinging to far in the direction of cost outweighing reward, this new board will shove the pendulum too far, we already seen it in the cancellation of Energy East. To a lesser extent so far in Keystone XL, I honestly could see TCPL cancelling this one as well, over 25% of construction cost is being paid out to special interest groups either to satisfy their concerns or straight out buying them off.
 

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I agree the km expansion will never happen.

But the neb was a rubber stamping agency and as Quebec has already stated in the National Assembly the feds do not have the power they are claiming .
 

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including the replacement of the Calgary-based regulator, the National Energy Board (NEB), with a new Ottawa-based organization called the Canadian Energy Transmission Commission

Apparently the plan all along was creating a new Crown Corp.

88 pages didn't just fall from the sky two weeks ago, it's been months perhaps years in the making.
 

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The WTO would slaughter Canada for not allowing owners of resources access to their product they invested 100s of Billions into.

The TPP would be kaput.
 

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Apparently the plan all along was creating a new Crown Corp.

88 pages didn't just fall from the sky two weeks ago, it's been months perhaps years in the making.

No doubt!


 

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Justin is afraid of Alberta.


He's more than likely afraid of his shadow too, CC.

Great bunch of posts people though I have to say, I am feeling rather depressed after reading them all as the outlook for our resource industry, should all the predictions come true, is more than bleak. How the Liberals think they are going to run this country without the money gleaned from our resources is beyond my comprehension.

BTW hoidy.............do not be so silly as to include yourself among the 'people' because you don't belong there. You really need to put your big boy pants on and actually contribute meaningful dialogue to a topic.
 

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He's more than likely afraid of his shadow too, CC.

Great bunch of posts people though I have to say, I am feeling rather depressed after reading them all as the outlook for our resource industry, should all the predictions come true, is more than bleak. How the Liberals think they are going to run this country without the money gleaned from our resources is beyond my comprehension.

BTW hoidy.............do not be so silly as to include yourself among the 'people' because you don't belong there. You really need to put your big boy pants on and actually contribute meaningful dialogue to a topic.
Well the out look for our resource industries is affecting other industries as well . Capital flight from Canada is already happening according to Bloomberg .
 

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Yep, it's already "out there" that Canada is becoming a 3rd world country and with resource development stifling, it's just a matter of time. So, enjoy your standard of living while you can because it's not going to last under the clowns we have in Ottawa.


JMHO
 

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The decision on a pipeline or any energy project cannot be made by one of the principle beneficiaries of that project.

Now the federal government has bought the pipeline and becomes an even greater beneficiary of it approved expansion.

The problem is only compounded rather than solved.
 

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The decision on a pipeline or any energy project cannot be made by one of the principle beneficiaries of that project.

Now the federal government has bought the pipeline and becomes an even greater beneficiary of it approved expansion.

The problem is only compounded rather than solved.
What is the problem ?