Trudeau cabinet approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 pipelines, rejects Northern Gateway

[Durry]

I would think that Enbridge should have a case to sue the government for their costs for rejecting the N Gateway project.

After all, they proceeded with their application, did all the studies, got approval by the NEB, met all requirements on the belief that if you do what your supposed to do, you get approval.

Why would any company want to do a ton of work and in the end be subjected to the whim of the government of the day??

I say they should sue the Libs for all their costs!!

 

[mentalfloss]

Enbridge should pay us for designing a crappy pipeline without properly considering social or environmental licence.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I would think that Enbridge should have a case to sue the government for their costs for rejecting the N Gateway project.

After all, they proceeded with their application, did all the studies, got approval by the NEB, met all requirements on the belief that if you do what your supposed to do, you get approval.

Why would any company want to do a ton of work and in the end be subjected to the whim of the government of the day??

I say they should sue the Libs for all their costs!!

The Lieberals will use tax dollars to pay their obligations.

 

[mentalfloss]

Conservatives should be celebrating this news but instead are revealing themselves to be party zealots.

 

[MHz]

Without the USA you would be wearing sack cloth and eating cabbage .

At least it isn't fuel for a fire. I thought cabbage was a wrapper?

 

[Cannuck]

Approved but unconstitutional.

Irrelevant! He approved it.

 

[mentalfloss]

And it's clear that his approval was meaningless because he tried to roughshod a project through without properly screening for the environmental and social concerns.

 

[Cannuck]

And it's clear that his approval was meaningless because he tried to roughshod a project through without properly screening for the environmental and social concerns.

He approved a pipeline just like Justin has.

 

[MHz]

Have the cost overruns been factored in yet or is that a flat 25% still? Time delays are still at time and a half like last time right?? and the banks are the only winners in those classes, just like last time right?? Wrong, new Sheriff in town. Deputy JT to the rescue.

 

[Remington1]

Sometimes, you have to step back and look at survival, and this is one of them. Many will benefit, I applaud JT for making a decision. Bitumen is not great, but give the opportunity for people to get jobs and feed the family, this is needed for many.

 

[Mowich]

I would think that Enbridge should have a case to sue the government for their costs for rejecting the N Gateway project.

After all, they proceeded with their application, did all the studies, got approval by the NEB, met all requirements on the belief that if you do what your supposed to do, you get approval.

Why would any company want to do a ton of work and in the end be subjected to the whim of the government of the day??

I say they should sue the Libs for all their costs!!

I think Enbridge would do well to absorb the loss and be thankful that they at least got approval for Line 3. While they are at it they better make damn sure that these new lines are state of the art and that all existing lines are inspected, repaired and maintained to the highest standards possible.

 

[Remington1]

Canada has to become more sufficient inside the country, increase it's export to the US and kick OPEC where it hurts.

 

[Durry]

Enbridge should pay us for designing a crappy pipeline without properly considering social or environmental licence.

What's a social or environmental license?? This is Liberal garage talk. That's the best they can do.

*garbage talk*

I think Enbridge would do well to absorb the loss and be thankful that they at least got approval for Line 3. While they are at it they better make damn sure that these new lines are state of the art and that all existing lines are inspected, repaired and maintained to the highest standards possible.

This is business, each line is considered on its own merit,,, sue the bastares!!! Teach them what business is all about!!

The Lines should be designed to the standards on which they got their approval on.

 

[MHz]

Canada has to become more sufficient inside the country, increase it's export to the US and kick OPEC where it hurts.

In this case it would be experts with field experience who are willing to travel to other lands to build according to the code we build to. Once in place the local workers can do the sales and maintenance aspect and our experts move onto the next pipeline project and if you can do it in the mountains you can do it anywhere. It will be interesting to see what they have planned as far as tunneling through ridges for the product and service vehicles can make a long detour to cross the same ridge.

In the old days the right of way would be made wider than needed so the next lines were done with minimal ground disturbance.

 

[Johnnny]

Jeez you think they could have found a picture of Notley and Trudeau looking a little happier.

 

[Mowich]

Kinder Morgan pipeline approval no surprise to Christy Clark

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BC Premier Christy Clark says she always knew Justin Trudeau was likely to approve Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain pipeline expansion through Burnaby Mountain.

Speaking to reporters a day after the approval was announced, Clark said she was not taken by surprise by his decision – or the 157 conditions which must still be met.

The pipeline expansion will create construction jobs – real jobs for a lot of people – and will lead to benefits in the long-term, she said.

Clark said she hopes that once construction of the expansion project is done, those construction workers will move on to other jobs in LNG or the pipeline.

The pipeline expansion is intended to increase the capacity of the existing pipeline from 300,000 barrels per day to 890,000 barrels per day.

But given the fact that it would plough through a big chunk of the Burnaby Mountain Conservation Area, the plan has proven extremely controversial over recent years.

BC focusing on 5 conditions

Despite the federal government’s approval of the controversial project, the province is sticking by its demand that the pipeline project meet five conditions before commencing:

• Successful completion of the environmental review process;
• World-leading marine oil spill response, prevention and recovery systems for B.C.’s coastline and ocean to manage and mitigate the risks and costs of heavy oil pipelines and shipments;
• World-leading practices for land oil spill prevention, response and recovery systems to manage and mitigate the risks and costs of heavy oil pipelines;
• Legal requirements regarding Aboriginal and treaty rights are addressed, and First Nations are provided with the opportunities, information and resources necessary to participate in and benefit from a heavy-oil project; and
• British Columbia receives a fair share of the fiscal and economic benefits of a proposed heavy oil project that reflects the level, degree and nature of the risk borne by the province, the environment and taxpayers.

“We want to make sure we get a fair benefit,” Clark told reporters on Wednesday. “My job is to make sure [the decision] meets the five conditions.”

Kinder Morgan pipeline approval no surprise to Christy Clark | Daily Hive Vancouver

 

[MHz]

The First Nations should be given preferred employment status for where the line meets the ground and part of that would be to be as educated as possible in the material sciences that they encounter.
Construction is a boom time that is never planned for by most in that when the construction is complete there are no new jobs to replace all the ones that will be lost. Most workers will just move back to where they were living before and only the buffalo will roam.

 

[Mowich]

Kevin Libin: It doesn’t count as a pipeline approval unless Trudeau’s prepared to arrest Liz May

In the hours before Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was about to make his big pipeline announcement, the news was already looking good. Green Party leader Elizabeth May had said she was ready to face prison in protest if Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain expansion was approved.

“I’m more than prepared to be there to block construction and be arrested and go to jail,” May said, giving some Canadians yet one more reason to look forward to a go-ahead.

Perhaps she’ll get her wish, after Trudeau said late Tuesday he would approve the Trans Mountain expansion, as well as the replacement of Enbridge’s Line 3. Actually, both had already been recommended for approval by the National Energy Board, so it would be more descriptive to call the Liberals’ announcement a decision not to refuse Trans Mountain or Line 3. They did, however, refuse Northern Gateway, adding a north-coast oil tanker ban, too.

Gateway had also been approved by the NEB, but needed a second federal approval after a court ruled the first improperly done. It’s a safe bet no one will stage illegal actions protesting the jobs and economic benefits lost to that decision, including to the 31 aboriginal communities that supported the proposal. It’s probably a safe bet that May won’t go to jail protesting Kinder Morgan, either.

At least when Solomon suggesting splitting a baby, it was to uncover the truth. Trudeau’s great compromise will earn him credit from political pragmatists but it gets us no closer to a clearer justification for new pipelines. Trudeau might have thought he was giving a little to each camp on Tuesday, by approving two project upgrades but refusing a whole new project proposal.

But by tossing aside Northern Gateway based not on the NEB’s recommendation but rather warm-and-fuzzy feelings about how the Great Bear Rainforest is “no place for a pipeline” (because: spirit bears) and its coastline “no place for oil tanker traffic” and it would be wrong to mar such a “unique and beautiful ecosystem” (a “jewel”!) Trudeau revealed that some causes still count for more than others.

The activist lawyers and campaign directors who are always steps ahead in strategizing ways to effectively snarl Canada’s fossil fuel development will quickly recognize the challenge to create new anti-development excuses that a yoga-doing, Haida-tattooed, new-age-spiritual prime minister can’t say no to.


Still, it counts for something that Tuesday showed we have yet to see the total denormalization of pipeline projects. Trudeau’s political capital isn’t quite at the level it was before he was found greasing dodgy gifts from Chinese communists and praising Cuban ones. But he arguably has more than most politicians these days, so his willingness to accept even a little more pipeline will surely remind many Canadians that it’s still perfectly reasonable to not jump off the zero-carbon, zero-prosperity deep end with Elizabeth May and her ilk.

But then, Elizabeth May isn’t quite as cute as a spirit bear. And the climate isn’t as pretty as a rainforest. Gregor Robertson is easy on the eyes, but no one’s heart will break because the mayor hates seeing more tankers in his already busy Vancouver Harbour.


Trudeau spent much of his remaining political capital Tuesday helping the floundering Rachel Notley government, insisting these pipeline decisions hinged on the social licence derived from her carbon plan, and his.

But already it looks like a heavily restricted licence, not valid for disturbing any animals, territory or scenery that, when photographed for a protest placard, look too pretty or pristine to mess with. It might for now be good for winning federal support for pipeline routes that are already dug — until the protests call for water cannons and handcuffing Liz May and maybe some First Nations people. How hard will the Trudeau government defend its social licence then?

Kevin Libin: It doesn’t count as a pipeline approval unless Trudeau’s prepared to arrest Liz May | Financial Post


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[JamesBondo]

Elizabeth may vowed to go to jail to stop this pipeline.I'm pretty certain that is not the way it works.

 

[MHz]

Want her dumped into the tar sands as a sacrifice? That would take coming up with a song and everything. How about 'Walk home 'Biatch'' or something just as mean? All between you and freedom is 5M sqkm of swamp.