Truck Terror Attack in NYC

[pgs]

In any war, you have to be able to prioritize: You can't win everything, so where would you rather win? Raqqa or Rotterdam? Kandahar or Cannes? Yet, whenever some guy goes Allahu Akbar on the streets of a western city, the telly pundits generally fall into one of two groups: The left say it's no big deal, and the right say this is why we need more boots on the ground in Syria or Afghanistan. Yesterday President Trump said he was committed to ensuring that terrorists "never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country".
By that he means "safe havens" in Afghanistan. But the reason the west's enemies are able to pile up a continuous corpse count in Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels, London, Manchester, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Orlando, San Bernadino, Ottawa, Sydney, Barcelona, [Your Town Here] is because they have "safe havens" in France, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, North America, etc. Which "safe havens" are likely to prove more consequential for the developed world in the years ahead..? In Afghanistan, we're fighting for something not worth winning, and we're losing. In Europe, Islam is fighting for something very much worth winning, and they're advancing. And, according to all the official strategists in Washington and elsewhere, these two things are nothing to do with each other.
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So now eight grieving families and dozens more who'll be living with horrific injuries for the rest of their lives are told by Cuomo and De Blasio and the rest of the gutless political class behind their security details that there's nothing to do except to get used to it.
I don't want to get used to it - and I reiterate my minimum demand of western politicians that I last made after the London Bridge attacks: How many more corpses need to pile up on our streets before you guys decide to stop importing more of it?
If your congressman or senator says that's not on his agenda, what he means is he's willing to sacrifice you and your loved ones in the suicide lottery of diversity.


https://www.steynonline.com/8229/jihad-on-the-bike-path

Yes Colpy I heard my local radio the Top Dog CKNW your trusted source in news and talk . This terrorist was Radicalised in the U.S . Radicalised , can you believe it , these as- holes have been doing this for years and our trusted news source are talking radicalisation as if it is a decease . All the while ignoring the elephant in the room , Islamic Jihad . They refuse to acknowledge that it is mainstream thinking and teaching in particular sects of Islam .

Impossible as Obama had that closed as per his promise when he got elected the first time

I remember that , funny we paid some dude 10 million when he got released .

true enough. But what is happening is that the population is getting used to it now. There seems to be a kind of collective conditioning happening. The "shock" value begins to fade. That is what extremists rely on. We might be at a pivotal time as we have seen and heard about the worst of the worst of "humanity"

We "we" have to do is not allow ourselves to become too jaded ......IMHO any extremist mindset is not "normal"

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Yes it is easy to get used to carbaques when they happen elsewhere , but will you sing the same tune when it is your son , daughter or sister that is the victim ?

Yea I remember that military guy yelling allah Akbar well murdering his fellow soldiers at Fort Hood . Nice platoon mate .

 

[Danbones]

Manhattan attack wouldn't have happened if CIA ‘spent less time’ arming terrorists – Assange
https://www.rt.com/news/408410-assange-cia-arms-terrorists/

Blowback sucks, but there it is.
It IS preventable.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Absolute nonsense, this is free country, people have fought and died to protect our freedoms, no scum bag should ever even dream of us losing any of our freedoms, no matter the consequences!!
Got it !!

Glad you've come around to my way of thinking.

So now, if you can learn to differentiate between the stupid idiot that ran down these people and people who just happen to be the same color and religion, that would help with curving the hatred and misinformation that bounces around the web. Got it!!

Manhattan attack wouldn't have happened if CIA ‘spent less time’ arming terrorists – Assange
https://www.rt.com/news/408410-assange-cia-arms-terrorists/

Blowback sucks, but there it is.
It IS preventable.

The CIA works for Home Depot?

 

[JLM]

Too bad the crime was committed in New York and not Virginia or New Hampshire. That asshole has the potential of costing the taxpayer about 100 grand a year for 50 years..............bloody shame! (And in this case I don't' think we have the argument of the risk of executing an innocent victim)

 

[EagleSmack]

Targeted again? 9/11 neighborhood shaken by attack

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/targeted-again-911-neighborhood-shaken-by-new-attack/

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Too bad the crime was committed in New York and not Virginia or New Hampshire. That asshole has the potential of costing the taxpayer about 100 grand a year for 50 years..............bloody shame! (And in this case I don't' think we have the argument of the risk of executing an innocent victim)

The death penalty costs more money than incarceration. And besides; why fulfill his wish of martyrdom? Stick him in a hole somewhere and let him rot.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

In any war, you have to be able to prioritize: You can't win everything, so where would you rather win? Raqqa or Rotterdam? Kandahar or Cannes? Yet, whenever some guy goes Allahu Akbar on the streets of a western city, the telly pundits generally fall into one of two groups: The left say it's no big deal, and the right say this is why we need more boots on the ground in Syria or Afghanistan. Yesterday President Trump said he was committed to ensuring that terrorists "never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country".
By that he means "safe havens" in Afghanistan. But the reason the west's enemies are able to pile up a continuous corpse count in Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels, London, Manchester, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Orlando, San Bernadino, Ottawa, Sydney, Barcelona, [Your Town Here] is because they have "safe havens" in France, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, North America, etc. Which "safe havens" are likely to prove more consequential for the developed world in the years ahead..? In Afghanistan, we're fighting for something not worth winning, and we're losing. In Europe, Islam is fighting for something very much worth winning, and they're advancing. And, according to all the official strategists in Washington and elsewhere, these two things are nothing to do with each other.
​

So now eight grieving families and dozens more who'll be living with horrific injuries for the rest of their lives are told by Cuomo and De Blasio and the rest of the gutless political class behind their security details that there's nothing to do except to get used to it.
I don't want to get used to it - and I reiterate my minimum demand of western politicians that I last made after the London Bridge attacks: How many more corpses need to pile up on our streets before you guys decide to stop importing more of it?
If your congressman or senator says that's not on his agenda, what he means is he's willing to sacrifice you and your loved ones in the suicide lottery of diversity.


https://www.steynonline.com/8229/jihad-on-the-bike-path

The weird part is that your logic only applies to Muslims.

Here are some facts:

American slavers committed treasonous rebellion against the United States, and plunged it into a war that lasted four years and killed 350,000 American soldiers.

Today, numerous terrorist attacks are carried out by people who specifically espouse the creed of those treasonous slavers.

Yet you want them treated as individual, criminal incidents with no unified theme. For that matter, you want their creed to be beyond criticism by the government.

Why do you insist on "safe havens" for people who share an ideology that has been responsible not only for numerous terrorist attacks, but for full-scale warfare on American soil?

 

[Cannuck]

Oh FFS...stop bringing logic into this place

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Oh FFS...stop bringing logic into this place

Oops. You're right. I'm sorry.

Oh. . . wait. This being a Canadian forum, I should say I'm sore-ree.

 

[Kreskin]

Donald tweeted " Would love to send the NYC terrorist to Guantanamo but statistically that process takes much longer than going through the Federal system." Does anyone know what statistics he's referring to?

 

[Cannuck]

Oops. You're right. I'm sorry.

Oh. . . wait. This being a Canadian forum, I should say I'm sore-ree.

You Americans are all aboot mocking how we talk eh!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Donald tweeted " Would love to send the NYC terrorist to Guantanamo but statistically that process takes much longer than going through the Federal system." Does anyone know what statistics he's referring to?

The ones in his delusions.

 

[Hoid]

Too bad the crime was committed in New York and not Virginia or New Hampshire. That asshole has the potential of costing the taxpayer about 100 grand a year for 50 years..............bloody shame! (And in this case I don't' think we have the argument of the risk of executing an innocent victim)

Does it matter that executing people is far more expensive than life in prison?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Does it matter that executing people is far more expensive than life in prison?

It's not even a rounding error in a $4 trillion budget.

 

[Kreskin]

The death penalty costs more money than incarceration. And besides; why fulfill his wish of martyrdom? Stick him in a hole somewhere and let him rot.

Cheaper if using gas chambers. Trump is right on it.

 

[Hoid]

It's not even a rounding error in a $4 trillion budget.

But as compared to life in prison the death penalty is obscenely expensive and normally results in decades in jail anyway.

 

[Cannuck]

Does it matter that executing people is far more expensive than life in prison?

Not socialists like JLM. They love and trust governments so much, they are eager to give them the power to kill citizens

 

[JLM]

The death penalty costs more money than incarceration. And besides; why fulfill his wish of martyrdom? Stick him in a hole somewhere and let him rot.

Even if the # of appeals were limited to one?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

But as compared to life in prison the death penalty is obscenely expensive and normally results in decades in jail anyway.

Seems to me the answer is to speed up the death penalty process. And simplify it.

 

[JLM]

I guess it's not amazing that idiots persist in proving themselves to be idiots.

Does it matter that executing people is far more expensive than life in prison?

Depends! I would say "yes" if the purpose of the exorcise is to reduce costs.