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petros

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Tankers have made their way from NL to Vancouver thru Panama. Aug of 2015 prices in Metro Vancouver dropped 10 cents upon arrival of a tanker from NL.
 

Curious Cdn

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Only because trudOWE hasn't imposed a tanker ban on the east coast like he did to us. If those tankers had to pay a carbon tax like Canadian oil has to it would be significantly more expensive. Good thing foreign oil doesn't polute.
Oh wait that ban only applies to outgoing oil not imports.
The reality of World geography is that whatever trudOwe did or didn't do is irrelevant. The situation is many decades old, going back to WWII and not to some imagined Liberal cabal against Western Canada. It is a lot cheaper to float the easily extracted oil that is all around the North Atlantic basin up the St. Lawrence (you don't pump anything going east "up-and-over" from Montreal) than to pump it over the continent in pipelines. There is no cheaper way to move any commodity than by ship. This will not change. Maybe, it is our national duty to take the more expensive Alberta product in the East but it makes more economic sense to pump it West, instead to the thirsty and still developing Pacific Rim where you can get more $$$ for it.

Look at a globe, sometime.
 

taxslave

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So why not buy Newfoundland oil?
The real problem is Ontariowe and Quebec don't have any oil of their own and their last goround at stealing Western oil didn't work out so well.
 

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Not from the West, it's not ...

Are you sure?



Oil from Enbridge's Line 9B begins pumping into Montreal

Up to 300,000 barrels of oil a day are expected to flow between Alberta and Quebec...……..More
 

Walter

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It's not coming this way. I costs too much to use petroleum from Western Canada. It's a lot cheaper to bring it in from just about anywhere by tanker than to pump it over the high point in the country.
What high point, it’s all downhill from AB to NS.
 

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Only because trudOWE hasn't imposed a tanker ban on the east coast like he did to us. If those tankers had to pay a carbon tax like Canadian oil has to it would be significantly more expensive. Good thing foreign oil doesn't polute.
Oh wait that ban only applies to outgoing oil not imports.
No connection between Irving Oil and Liberals . No collisions between whales and tankers in the Gulf of St. Lawrence either .
 

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Just a side note CC Suncor refinery drove the decision to reverse Line 9 to use their Ft Mac oil, This reversal happened back in 2015 and I have mentioned it a lot on this forum, especially when we were discussing Energy East where TCPL has a line they want to convert that is running gas to Montreal. They wanted to end it at either the St. Lawrence to load out from, or take it to Halifax for Irving and a loading terminal.
 

Curious Cdn

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No connection between Irving Oil and Liberals . No collisions between whales and tankers in the Gulf of St. Lawrence either .
Most of the Whale deaths are in and around the Bay of Fundy where tankers dare not go.
 

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Also if you missed it Line 9 was first installed by the insistence of Trudeau Sr. to supply PetroCan with western crude during his NEP push, later reversed to send foreign oil down to Sarnia, reversed again to send Western crude to Montreal. Now you should be caught up LOl
 

Curious Cdn

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So why not buy Newfoundland oil?
The real problem is Ontariowe and Quebec don't have any oil of their own and their last goround at stealing Western oil didn't work out so well.
Yeah, we get that too.

Ontario still has drbbly bits of oil coming out of the ground around Petrolia and from under Lake Erie.

Quebec, it seems, has oil under their portion of the Gulf of St.Lawrence where there is a current moratorium on drilling.

Maybe they should be exploiting it instead of "stealing" alleged Alberta oil that is really coming from Venezuela, Texas, Norway and the North Sea, North Africa, Arabia, the Grand Banks, Nigeria ....

You Westerners. We don't use your petroleum, therefore you are VICTIMS of vicious Eastern subterfuge.

If we use your oil, you're VICTIMS of theft!

VICTIMS!! ...always VICTIMS!!
 

petros

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Yeah, we get that too.
Ontario still has drbbly bits of oil coming out of the ground around Petrolia and from under Lake Erie.
Quebec, it seems, has oil under their portion of the Gulf of St.Lawrence where there is a current moratorium on drilling.
Maybe they should be exploiting it instead of "stealing" alleged Alberta oil that is really coming from Venezuela, Texas, Norway and the North Sea, North Africa, Arabia, the Grand Banks, Nigeria ....
You Westerners. We don't use your petroleum, therefore you are VICTIMS of vicious Eastern subterfuge.
If we use your oil, you're VICTIMS of theft!
VICTIMS!! ...always VICTIMS!!
You're from SK. Give it up.
 

Curious Cdn

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You're from SK. Give it up.
You're victim, too.

Easterners import oil from Saudi Arabia?

They're sticking it to the West.

A bit of oil finally getting shipped East?

They're stealing it from the West.



We will light a candle for you and pray.

You're victimhood is way up there.
 

Twin_Moose

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Yeah, we get that too.
Ontario still has drbbly bits of oil coming out of the ground around Petrolia and from under Lake Erie.
Quebec, it seems, has oil under their portion of the Gulf of St.Lawrence where there is a current moratorium on drilling.
Maybe they should be exploiting it instead of "stealing" alleged Alberta oil that is really coming from Venezuela, Texas, Norway and the North Sea, North Africa, Arabia, the Grand Banks, Nigeria ....
You Westerners. We don't use your petroleum, therefore you are VICTIMS of vicious Eastern subterfuge.
If we use your oil, you're VICTIMS of theft!
VICTIMS!! ...always VICTIMS!!









 

taxslave

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Yeah, we get that too.
Ontario still has drbbly bits of oil coming out of the ground around Petrolia and from under Lake Erie.
Quebec, it seems, has oil under their portion of the Gulf of St.Lawrence where there is a current moratorium on drilling.
Maybe they should be exploiting it instead of "stealing" alleged Alberta oil that is really coming from Venezuela, Texas, Norway and the North Sea, North Africa, Arabia, the Grand Banks, Nigeria ....
You Westerners. We don't use your petroleum, therefore you are VICTIMS of vicious Eastern subterfuge.
If we use your oil, you're VICTIMS of theft!
VICTIMS!! ...always VICTIMS!!
The history of Ontariowe and Qhebeck stealing from the west with the stacked deck we call a parliment is well documented.
 

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Yeah, we get that too.

Ontario still has drbbly bits of oil coming out of the ground around Petrolia and from under Lake Erie.

Quebec, it seems, has oil under their portion of the Gulf of St.Lawrence where there is a current moratorium on drilling.

Maybe they should be exploiting it instead of "stealing" alleged Alberta oil that is really coming from Venezuela, Texas, Norway and the North Sea, North Africa, Arabia, the Grand Banks, Nigeria ....

You Westerners. We don't use your petroleum, therefore you are VICTIMS of vicious Eastern subterfuge.

If we use your oil, you're VICTIMS of theft!

VICTIMS!! ...always VICTIMS!!


Wow... That's a whole new level of idiocy.


Congrats bud, I guess that makes you the smartest on the short bus
 

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A-hole new level of I.D.10-T C
;)

I knew banking rates were sub zero in come locals, but I didn't realize that concept also applied to trump derangement IQs as well.