Come on, JLM; nothing like a good ol' skull crushing before we drink a Red Bull and go to the next party for another night of wild fun.
Tory G8 abortion stance
- Thread starter Socrates the Greek
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It needs the woman's biological resources to develop. The question becomes, who is in charge of the biological domain? She or it?
Pregnancy is always a threat to a woman's life. Who's choice is it for her to pursue that risk? Her or it (or an uninvolved third party)?
These are legal rights issues. The outcome might not be preferred but the alternative would put into question nearly any personal legal right you have.
Hey, fine. So did she not think that she jut might get pregnant by sleeping with someone? Did she not learn sex ed in school?
A dick's not the same as a cucumber. It can actually get you pregnant.
Well, the guy with the dick should've thought of that before having sex. If he doesn't want her to have an abortion, don't have sex with her.
Unless the woman is a complete idiot or the victim of a criminal act, the decision to start the process in the first place should have been hers. :smile:
Fully agreed, and he's responsible for the baby too. It takes two to tango, and so they are both responsible.
Fully agreed. And it was hers to drop her panties.
I don't recall ever reading that in the Analects.:-?
No Jack, rape is possible. However, I must admit that even then I still disagree with taking the baby's life, but would support my taxes going to help that mother support her infant. And as for the rapist, a lifetime of hard labour might be appropriate.
I don't see any correlation between her taking her pants off and him having to ejaculate.
Well, let me help you out here. Taking her panties off gives him an opportunity to stick his Willie where it might not belong.
You're not a virgin by any chance, are you? Rhetorical question, you don't have to answer that.
If she let's him in, then she accepts the possibility that he could ejaculate. And he accepts that responsibility too. For crying out loud, a guy can ejaculate while asleep in a wet dream, and you expect that he could have total control over his ejaculations on each and every occasion?
Again, did you not learn sex ed in school?
A woman can sleep naked if she wants to, and has every right to tell him to keep Wilie away. But once she willingly spreads her legs, she's accepting responsibility.
And yes, if he enters, he's accepting responsibility too.
Again, if he doesn't want her to have an abortion he shouldn't sleep with her. It's quite simple.
And if she doesn't want a baby, she has the option of crossing her legs. It's quite simple.
What? She'll have her night of fun, get preggy, blame it all on the guy as if she has a halo hovering around her head and wings growing out of her back, and then get her baby sucked out of her womb or wait awhile and get its head crushed in?
So the woman has a right to her night of pleasure and the baby has a duty to suck it up, buttercup? How altruistic.
If she doesn't want a baby she can have an abortion. If he doesn't want her to have one he can refrain from ejaculating.
If she doesn't want a baby, she can cross her legs, no?
What you're proposing is abortion as a standard birth control procedure equal to abstinence.
I'm a guy but I restrain myself. I don't sleep around, precisely because I don't want that on my conscience. However, if a woman lured me, I'd be equally responsible, yes. But what you're suggesting is that I'd be 100% responsible and hat she'd be as innocent as an angel.
Harper could have easily skirted around that issue by simply limiting any government funding to education only, and let other countries deal with the medical side of it, or some other such arrangement.
Also, supporting the education side of it would help children who have been kept, thus giving more incentive for mothers to keep their child.
