Titanic clash looms over proposed Northern Gateway pipeline

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Do go questioning MF on this taxslave... He, and he alone will determine what is genuine and what isn't.

Did you read the article in the Sunday Herald about using Slave Lake as a route to the ocean?
 

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So what makes you think that the people liking these pages are not in favor of the pipeline? Or for that matter that they are fake?

There definitely could well be. I'm just passing along the messages that are popping up around the issue as they come.

It is pretty scary the depths that astroturfers (like captain morgain) will go to.
 

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There definitely could well be. I'm just passing along the messages that are popping up around the issue as they come.

It is pretty scary the depths that astroturfers (like captain morgain) will go to.

What is scary is the depth eco terrorists will sink to to get their message out in an attempt to destroy the economy.
Remember Stumpy? The stump the greenies were dragging around Europe to raise money to protest clearcut logging. It did not come from Claycot Sound like they claimed.
 

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What is scary is the depth eco terrorists will sink to to get their message out in an attempt to destroy the economy.
Remember Stumpy? The stump the greenies were dragging around Europe to raise money to protest clearcut logging. It did not come from Claycot Sound like they claimed.

Remember the event at Clayquot Sound where Midnight Oil played a save-the-planet gig?

The collective group of earth rangers that showed up for the show transformed the entire area into a wasteland in the course of the party.... Some kind of irony on that, eh? These pinheads did more damage than the actual clear-cutting.
 

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Ethical oil shill gets the smackdown on CBC.

It's no surprise that many conservatives want to get rid of them.

Investigative journalism.. who needs that?




Foreign oil companies influencing oilsands project

Apparently, Prime Minister Stephen Harper opposes the foreign funding, interference and influence in Canadian oilsands projects. That's very good news.

However, Harper failed to mention the following foreign organizations which are also funding, interfering in, and influencing Alberta's oilsands projects:

Shell - a Dutch company BP - a British company
Total - a French company
Japan Canada Oil Sands (JACOS)
Sinopec - a Chinese company
Statoil - a Norwegian company
Korean National Oil Corporation

Just a small sample of foreign influence that Harper forget to mention.

Must just have slipped his mind, I guess.

Can we assume that these companies are acting solely in the interests of Canada and all Canadian residents?
 

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This is turning into a farce..

Still 'radical'? Rich U.S. groups also gave to Ottawa

Rich American foundations are not only footing the bill for opposition to Canada's oilsands.

Tax returns show the Canadian government has also been the beneficiary of millions of dollars in largesse from some of the wealthiest private organizations in the United States.

And some of that money came from the same U.S. groups that helped fund Canadian environmentalists.

The grants to the federal government come to light as Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives and the pro-oilsands website EthicalOil.org take Canadian environmental groups to task for accepting money from big American foundations to finance their campaigns against the oilsands.

Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver accused "environmental and other radical groups" of trying to use money from "foreign special-interest groups" to hijack hearings on a pipeline that would bring Alberta oilsands bitumen to a port on the British Columbia coast.

But the Canadian government seems to have no qualms accepting grant money from private U.S. foundations — including some of the same organizations that gave to Canadian environmental groups.

For example, U.S. tax records show the California-based William and Flora Hewlett Foundation gave $750,000 to the David Suzuki Foundation and a whopping $40 million to the International Development Research Centre, a federal Crown corporation.

Tax records show the Hewlett foundation gave the International Development Research Centre $40 million in 2007 for "general support of the Think Tanks Program," and another $275,000 in 2008 for "general support of the African R&E Bandwidth Consortium." The Hewlett Foundation has also given $1.3 million to the Pembina Foundation for Environmental Research and Education, $400,000 to the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society and $275,000 to Ecojustice Canada.

Still 'radical'? Rich U.S. groups also gave to Ottawa - Politics - CBC News
 

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1,500 barrels of oil spilled in N.W.T. last spring, Enbridge says
Company originally thought only four barrels of crude lost at Willowlake River via ‘pinhole’ leak in pipeline

OTTAWA - Enbridge Inc., the proponent of the Northern Gateway pipeline from the Alberta oilsands to the B.C. northern coast, is planning seven “investigative digs” as part of a new round of measures next month in connection with a 1,500-barrel spill in the Northwest Territories.

Enbridge originally said when the spill was discovered by an aboriginal hunter last May that only four barrels of sweet crude leaked from the pipeline, which takes as much as 39,400 barrels per day 869 kilometres from Norman Wells to Zama, Alta.

But in early June the company notified the National Energy Board that the spill, 150 metres south of the Willowlake River in western N.W.T., involved anywhere from 700 to 1,500 barrels.

Enbridge’s website now pegs the spill, from a “pinhole” leak on the pipeline, at the upper limit of 1,500 barrels.

“We don’t know the cause right now,” Enbridge spokeswoman Jennifer Varey said Thursday.

The company, in its first-ever news release on the spill, announced on Wednesday that it is doing the seven investigative digs in the area to assess the risk of other leaks. An eighth dig will remove and replace the section of pipe where the original leak occurred.

“When we get in there and cut it out and send it to the lab, then we’ll be able to see it and understand” what happened,” said Varey, who noted the company has been extremely active since the spill in communicating with the public and the media in the region of the spill.

The initial low-ball estimate left frustrated citizens in the area in the dark, according to N.W.T. MLA Kevin Menicoche, who worked for Enbridge as a safety officer and senior maintenance technician from 1985 to 2003.

“A mature company like that should have known more than four barrels were spilled,” Menicoche said Thursday.

He also questioned why the company didn’t detect the spill long before 1,500 barrels had escaped.

“Their leak detection software should have triggered an alarm after 50 barrels.” But Varey said some leaks aren’t so easy to detect. “That type of leak allows the oil to very, very slowly stream out of the pipe, but the pressure inside the pipe is maintained,” she said.

“It’s very rare, it can be detected using sophisticated inline inspection equipment, but it can happen over time and it wouldn’t be picked up.”

Enbridge has defended itself against arguments by critics in B.C. that a spill from the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline is “inevitable.”

The company has regularly pointed out to the media that there hadn’t been a pipeline rupture resulting in a leak of more than 10 barrels on any Canadian pipeline built in the last 25 years.

“That demonstrates the rigour, the material standards, the quality of the steel, the quality of the coatings, the quality of the inspection practices, the installation practices and how dramatically they’ve improved,” the project’s manager of engineering, Ray Doering, told the Kitimat Northern Sentinel in an interview published in June.

At the time of last May’s spill detection, the Norman Wells pipeline was about 26 years old.

By far Enbridge’s largest spill disaster, the 2010 incident that led to 840,000 gallons of oilsands crude being dumped into Michigan’s Kalamazoo River and Talmadge Creek, involved a pipeline built in 1969.

The NEB, which said in a letter to Enbridge in June that it was “concerned” about the upwardly revised estimate and was therefore launching an investigation, did not comment Thursday on the status of its probe.

The Enbridge news release issued Wednesday said Enbridge will begin work in mid-February to replace the repaired pipe, allowing the company to further analyze the damaged portion in a laboratory to determine what went wrong.

Enbridge will also continue reclamation work on the site, and start hauling remaining contaminated soils now in storage to a licensed disposal facility.

The company began this week moving contaminated materials from a temporary storage site near Fort Simpson, N.W.T., to a licensed disposal facility near Fort Nelson, B.C.

Enbridge’s website said that as of late August more than 730 of the 1,500 barrels had been recovered, while more than 900 cubic metres of “impacted soil” was excavated and more than 630 cubic metres of “impacted water” were recovered.


1,500 barrels of oil spilled in N.W.T. last spring, Enbridge says
 

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PMO branded environmental group an ‘enemy’ of Canada, affidavit says

OTTAWA—The Prime Minister’s Office allegedly labelled an environmental group an “enemy” of Canada for opposing a proposed west coast oil pipeline and threatened retribution if its funding was not cut off, according to the affidavit of a former employee.

The group, ForestEthics, operates in both Canada and the U.S. with money from Tides Canada, a charitable group that funds initiatives to tackle poverty, climate change and social problems.

ForestEthics is also a registered intervener at hearings on Enbridge’s planned Northern Gateway pipeline that would pump Alberta oil to freighters on the British Columbia coast destined for China.

But a former communications manager with ForestEthics says that senior federal officials referred to the group as an “enemy of the government of Canada” and an “enemy of the people of Canada” in a private meeting with the president of Tides Canada, Ross McMillan.

Andrew Frank, a 30-year-old instructor in the environmental protection program at Vancouver’s Kwantlen Polytechnic University, also claims the Prime Minister’s Office wanted McMillan to revoke funding to the organization.

“The government of Canada has used the language of anti-terrorism, language that is violent and above the law, to describe legitimate critics of unsustainable resource development,” he said in an affidavit released to reporters Tuesday.

The Prime Minister’s Office denied the allegations.

In a telephone call with reporters, ForestEthics officials said they have no “direct confirmation” of the content of the conversations between McMillan and PMO officials.

“Our point is the tone is consistent with the tone we’re seeing from the Tory government,” said Tzeporah Berman the co-founder of ForestEthics.

“We share the concerns that Andrew Frank has raised,” said Valerie Langer, a campaigner with the group.

Earlier this month, Natural Resouces Minister Joe Oliver warned of the threat posed by “radical groups” backed by foreign money to hold up hearings into projects like the one underway for the Northern Gateway pipeline.

“These groups threaten to hijack or regulatory system to achieve their radical ideological agenda,” Oliver wrote.

He said such projects are an important source of jobs, but if the regulatory process goes on too long, they achieve the critics’ goal of becoming “economically unviable.”

Frank says he first learned of the threats on Jan. 5 when ForestEthics staff were pulled into a meeting called by a senior supervisor, Pierre Iachetti.

Iachetti recounted that government officials gave McMillan “a set time period … by which to ‘cut loose’ ForestEthics, or the government would ‘take down’ all of Tides’ charitable projects,” Frank said in his affidavit, which was accompanied by internal e-mail correspondence and transcripts of voice mails.

“The assumption was that Mr. McMillan had already decided to dissolve ForestEthics’ public work in criticizing (the pipeline project) in order to save the rest of Tides’ charitable projects.”

The next evening, Jan. 6, Frank said the story was confirmed to him by Merran Smith, director of the Tides Canada Energy Initiative.

Last Friday, believing that both ForestEthics and Tides Canada had chosen to remain silent about the threats in order to avoid political reprisal, Frank went directly to McMillan and his vice-president, Sarah Goodman. He said they were “clearly agitated” to learn of his plan to reveal the existence of the threats.

In a statement Tuesday, McMillan said he would not divulge the contents of his conversations with government officials. But he said Frank wasn’t present at any of the conversations.

“His account of our conversations with government is inaccurate,” McMillan said, without providing any details.

Over the weekend, ForestEthics shut off access to Frank’s email account and he was fired for “unprofessional conduct.”

“No one in an organization should be acting unilaterally,” said Berman. “He was let go because he broke confidentiality and trust.”

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Environmentalist’s departure sheds light on tension felt by green groups

A prominent environmentalist has been fired from an organization that has staunchly protested the Northern Gateway pipeline after he accused the Prime Minister’s Office of resorting to intimidation tactics against the project’s critics.

The dismissal of Andrew Frank, spokesman for anti-oil-sands group ForestEthics, comes amid an increasingly tense atmosphere among environmental groups – especially those registered as charities, whose public advocacy is supposed to be limited – that have come under fire by the federal government for harbouring “radicals” intent on “hijacking” the review process for Gateway.

The departure of Mr. Frank reflects the fear that has been created among environmental groups nervous about federal scrutiny of their practices.

One of the groups that has received the most attention is Tides Canada, a wide-reaching foundation that supports nearly 40 organizations, including ForestEthics, an environmental organization with roots in the mid-1990s fight against clear-cut logging.

Today, ForestEthics devotes substantial effort to battling the oil sands, including the Gateway pipeline. It has registered as an intervenor in the public review of the $6.6-billion project, which hopes to bring Alberta oil sands crude to Pacific waters for export to Asia and California. Gateway has stoked major debate, with supporters saying it will give Canada access to new markets, and opponents saying it stands to devastate western waters rich with salmon and whales.

Mr. Frank was one of the country’s loudest voices against Gateway. He spent three years as a part-time press officer for ForestEthics before being hired, in early October, as senior communications and media manager. His responsibilities included devising and executing strategies for the group’s anti-oil-sands campaign – and it was his work that brought much Gateway opposition to the attention of national media.

Late Monday, he was let go, after serving notice he intended to go public with allegations that a PMO official, in a meeting with a Tides executive, had pressured the group to end its support of ForestEthics. On Tuesday, Mr. Frank released a signed affidavit alleging the threats against ForestEthics and documenting internal conversations at ForestEthics that suggested jobs at the group might be at risk.

But Mr. Frank did not attend the PMO meeting in question, which took place Nov. 15. He relied, instead, upon second- and third-hand reports, and both the PMO and Tides shot back against his allegations. In an e-mail, PMO press secretary Andrew MacDougall said the government “denies making any of the statements referenced in the reports.” Tides Canada president Ross McMillan said Mr. Frank’s descriptions of the meeting were “inaccurate.”

It’s clear, however, that the PMO meeting stirred new concern for Tides, a charity, about its support of ForestEthics. Indeed, Tides requested the meeting after it came under increasing public scrutiny in light of the Gateway review. At the meeting, the two sides discussed what was allowable advocacy conduct for a charity, which can legally spend no more than 10 per cent of its budget on non-partisan political activities. A PMO official articulated the Harper government’s view of Canada’s national interest – which includes supporting Gateway – and pointed to ForestEthics as an example of a group acting against the government of Canada and the people of Canada.

But Tides itself had already been examining its relationship with ForestEthics, which has taken an increasingly public stance against oil-sands projects. Employees at Tides had documented instances where ForestEthics had transgressed, or skirted the line on the restrictions on charitable activities.

That work could result in ForestEthics being spun out into a different organization, although a pair of ForestEthics co-founders held a press conference Tuesday to say relations with Tides, which provides administrative and other support, remain positive.

It’s clear, however, Ottawa’s pressure has caused pain for environmental groups. Some donors have been spooked away. Others have asked that they be kept anonymous. ForestEthics employees have been warned that their jobs could be in jeopardy.

“The chilly atmosphere that has been created in public by the federal government is very dangerously close to the kind of unethical government interference on behalf of dirty oil that we would have expected from another era, like 1950s McCarthy time,” ForestEthics co-founder Valerie Langer said.

And West Coast environmental leaders caution that inflammatory government rhetoric can create a dangerous – and sometimes violent – atmosphere. In 1997, then-premier British Columbia Glen Clark called Greenpeace members “enemies of British Columbia” and “eco-terrorists,” at the height of the debate over forestry practices and violence followed.

Will Horter, now executive director at the Dogwood Initiative, said he can recall five times when governments in Canada and North America have essentially accused environmental groups of treason.

“Three of those five times, people got beat up,” he said.

Environmentalist's departure sheds light on tension felt by green groups - The Globe and Mail
 

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Given the recent catastrope at Burns Lake, it would sure be welcome news for the local economy and employment opportunities!

Good Point!!!
I'm sure these people will be hard pressed to find a decent job in the meantime .
 

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Given the recent catastrope at Burns Lake, it would sure be welcome news for the local economy and employment opportunities!


I'm a little curious why the eco-lobbies aren't calling for an outright ban on lumber mills... Clearly, Burns Lake is an indication of the enviro destruction that society should expect from that entire sector.
 

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I think these Eco Lobbists go after those they think will give them the biggest bang for their buck.
They have to raise money for themselves so this pipeline will get more profile than a lumber mill, so I think it's just a business decision for them.
 

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I think these Eco Lobbists go after those they think will give them the biggest bang for their buck.
They have to raise money for themselves so this pipeline will get more profile than a lumber mill, so I think it's just a business decision for them.


Absolutely!

None of the eco-tards are picketing the province of BC and city of Victoria for dumping 10's of thousands of liters of raw sewage into Puget sound every day... Over a hundred years of blatant abuse to ole Mother Gaia and not a peep out of these retards, but think about anything that is remotely related to oil and they scream like a pack of little girls at a Justin Beiber concert.

Hypocrites - all of 'em
 

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Absolutely!

None of the eco-tards are picketing the province of BC and city of Victoria for dumping 10's of thousands of liters of raw sewage into Puget sound every day... Over a hundred years of blatant abuse to ole Mother Gaia and not a peep out of these retards, but think about anything that is remotely related to oil and they scream like a pack of little girls at a Justin Beiber concert.

Hypocrites - all of 'em

Did you take a sample of those protesting this project and confirm that they also have no opinion of other environmental matters, like Puget?