Time Travel Isn’t Possible…or Is It?

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Time Travel Isn’t Possible…or Is It?

Special relativity teaches us that the three dimensions of space and the solitary dimension of time are woven together like a fabric. It’s impossible to think of them as separate entities, only a singular unified entity — space-time. We can’t think of motion through space without being mindful of motion through time, and vice versa. Left-right, up-down, back-forth and past-future are all on equal footing.

And yet, time does seem a little different. We have complete freedom of movement within space, but we cannot avoid our future. Time seems to have an “arrow,” whereas the spatial dimensions are ambidextrous. Given the unity between time and space, it leads to the obvious question: Is time travel, of any sort, possible? Under any circumstances? At all? [How Time Travel Works in Science Fiction (Infographic)]

INTO THE FUTURE: SURE

Oddly enough, the answer is yes! We cannot avoid moving into our futures, but we can control the rate that we move through time. This is a consequence of another lesson from relativity: Not all clocks are the same.

The speed at which you move through space determines the speed at which you move through time. In the succinct phrase: Moving clocks run slow.

IF you could build a big enough rocket (don’t ask me how, that’s an engineering problem) to provide a constant acceleration of 1g (9.8 meters per second per second; the same acceleration as provided by the Earth’s gravity at its surface), you could reach the center of the Milky Way galaxy — a healthy 20,000 light-years away — in just a couple decades of your personal time.

You could stop for a few hours, have a picnic near Sagittarius A* (the black hole at the center of the galaxy), and then hop back in to your rocket and come back to Earth.

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By the time you return you’ll be eligible for retirement benefits, if the institution providing those benefits is even around, because while you only traveled for a few decades according to the clock on your ship, about 40,000 years would’ve passed on the Earth.

CLOSING THE LOOP

Time is relative, but it still flows in the same direction for everyone. To ask if we can go into reverse is the domain of general relativity (GR) — this is the mathematical language we use to not only understand gravity, but the full connection between space-time and motion.

In GR, we ask a slightly more technical question: Is there any arrangement of matter and energy (the stuff that warps space-time) to permit the existence of closed time-like curves, or CTCs? I know this is jargon but it’s a fun phrase to toss around at parties. “Curve” here means a path, “time-like” means you never go faster than the speed of light, and “closed” means it returns to its starting point — in other words, its own past.

So, Oracle of Einstein, are CTCs permitted? Yes! Well….

THE POSSIBILITIES ARE FINITE

There are about half a dozen known configurations of space-time that allow CTCs, or time travel into the past. For example, Kurt Gödel (of Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem fame) discovered that if the expansion of the universe was accelerating (which it is) and the universe is also rotating, CTCs would be allowed and we could travel into our past on a whim.

As far as I can tell, Gödel used this solution to point out to Albert Einstein that perhaps GR wasn’t all it was cracked up to be — I mean, come on, shouldn’t any self-respecting theory of the natural world avoid such an obviously absurd solution?

But Gödel’s point was moot — all observations indicate that the universe is not rotating, so that particular solution does not apply to our universe, and time travel into the past is verboten.

Ah! But what if we were to construct an infinitely long massive cylinder and set it spinning on its axis near the speed of light. It would drag on space-time around it, and certain paths around that spinning cylinder would end up in their own past. Good thing there are no infinitely long massive cylinders in the universe, or we might have to worry.

Wait, I’ve got one: If you make a wormhole (a shortcut between two distant locations in space-time) and send one end racing off near the speed of light and bring it back, the normal time-dilation effects would put one end in the “future” of the other, so you could waltz right through the wormhole throat and end up in your past. What’s that? Wormholes require “negative mass” to exist, and negative mass does not exist in the universe? Well, hmm.

INTO THE PAST: NOPE

It’s the same story every time (pardon the too-hard-to-resist pun). For every scenario we concoct in general relativity to allow CTCs and time travel into our own past, nature finds a way to confound our plans and rule out the scenario.

What’s going on? General relativity allows — in principle — time travel into the past, but it appears to be ruled out in every case. It seems like something funny is afoot, that there ought to be some fundamental rule to disallow time travel. But there isn’t one. We can’t point to any particle interaction at the subatomic level that clearly prevents the formation of CTCs.

The inevitable progression of time from the past to the future resembles another indomitable law of nature: entropy. That’s the iron law of thermodynamics that states that closed systems go from ordered to disordered. (This law explains why an egg will never just happen to unscramble itself if you leave it alone long enough). Is time linked to entropy? Maybe, but that’s the subject of another article….

https://futurism.com/time-travel-isnt-possible-is-it/


If time travel is possible, someone should go back in time and give Donald Trump's father a condom.
 

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I have heard that they supposedly conducted time travel experiments with the uss eldridge and in a place called Montauk.
 

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If time travel is possible, someone should go back in time and give Donald Trump's father a condom.
_Funny I was thinking the same thing about Papa trudOWE's father.
 

MHz

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Time Travel Isn’t Possible…or Is It?
INTO THE FUTURE: SURE

Oddly enough, the answer is yes! We cannot avoid moving into our futures, but we can control the rate that we move through time. This is a consequence of another lesson from relativity: Not all clocks are the same.
Huh? WTF in English. Living your life according to the normal timeline for a living person is not time travel. Counting how many times the sun crosses a certain rug over the life of a building is time travel. Forward and backward (minutes to billions of years) obviously but you also have to be free to travel to almost any location on the globe at the same time. Seeing the nearest horizon change 'over time' would be as boring as fuk.

The future does not exist, it can only be cultivated as required.
A natural future will always outlast a manufactured one.
 

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Huh? WTF in English. Living your life according to the normal timeline for a living person is not time travel. Counting how many times the sun crosses a certain rug over the life of a building is time travel. Forward and backward (minutes to billions of years) obviously but you also have to be free to travel to almost any location on the globe at the same time. Seeing the nearest horizon change 'over time' would be as boring as fuk.


A natural future will always outlast a manufactured one.

Manufactured futures are naturally cultivated.Or do you doubt the great and one cosmic creator?
 

MHz

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The future does not exist, it can only be cultivated as required.
The machine becomes part of you. Under your rule the rider would be subject to normal aging, no matter which direction you were traveling. Lets assume bathroom breaks are not needed based on real time rather than 'bubble wrap time'.

If you wanted to check out the Pacific Rift to see if it is the cause of the warm Pacific Blob you would have to set the machine to send you there for a mil-second at a time as you travel along the rift. The short segments would be pieced together to give you a 'vid' that would be as if the trip was a series of slides, rock having frames per foot that something of a lighter density. 'Top speed' is being able to 'fly' all around a 'burst of light' so you get a '3-D view' that you can move around with ease. (Meaning many times faster than light.)
 

petros

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To travel time you have aim not just for a date but the position of our planet within it's orbit but also the orbit of the sun within a rotating Galaxy that is travelling away from the point of the big bang.

That's gonna be tough.
 

petros

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Time Travel is possible!!!

I'm from the Future, sent here to this time to locate the original virus that will soon wipe out the majority of humanity in 5 years.

The future doesn't exist and going back means you can only go back to the point of the invention of time travel and at that exact point in space.
 

Johnnny

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The future doesn't exist and going back means you can only go back to the point of the invention of time travel and at that exact point in space.

I'am condemned to know the future but to be disbelieved when i foretell it. Hence the agony of foreknowledge combined with the impotence to do anything about it.
 

darkbeaver

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To travel time you have aim not just for a date but the position of our planet within it's orbit but also the orbit of the sun within a rotating Galaxy that is travelling away from the point of the big bang.

That's gonna be tough.

Bad enough that Eyenstien fabricated a big bang but now you have imagined it's fictional point of origin. Would this point be the center of the universe and how do you determine weather or not it had a perfectly spherical expansion horizon? What was this point sitting in on or about since there could have been no space to expand into since space itself was contained in the infinitly dense point?