Time to Privatize. Canada Post has the same amount of employees as Canada Has Militar

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Time to Privatize.
Canada Post has the same amount of employees as Canada Has Military.
Steve you can Fuk the Vets injured in service to their country, families of Soldiers Killed in service.
This should be a non issue.
It surely will not be a burden on your conscience.
John Ivison: Canada Post poised to lay an egg next Easter after losing $58M this quarter | National Post

Summer has set in on the news business with its usual severity. The Pamela Wallin affair provided brief respite but late in the week, torpor had returned.

In search of some light relief, I read Canada Post’s latest quarterly, which provided a eureka moment for me, if not for the Crown corporation’s 68,000 employees, pensioners and customers.

“Based on current financial forecasts, the Canada Post segment believes it has sufficient liquidity to support its operations until at least the end of the first quarter of 2014,” says the section on liquidity and capital resources.

Say what? One of Canada’s largest employers, delivering 10 million pieces of mail, parcels and messages to more than 15 million addresses in urban, rural and remote locations across the country, could run out of cash by Easter?

Apparently so. The decline in the corporation’s core business has been well-documented. The group of companies that also includes Purolator, the parcels business, recorded an operating loss of $58-million in the first quarter of the year, primarily because of mail volume erosion.

Total volumes were down by 136 million and more pieces in the first three months of the year because people now pay bills online.

The Conference Board recently predicted that Canada Post will make an operating loss of $1-billion by 2020. But the prospects of self-sustainability are much, much more gloomy than just a gradual slide into operational obsolescence.

The corporation has a massive pension commitment that it simply cannot afford to service. The quarterly report says the pension plan’s obligations are $5.9-billion more than its resources. Canada Post has to make up the shortfall but has not been able to afford enough contributions to satisfy its obligations under the existing legislation.
 

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I don't get it. Why the comparison to the military? Should we privatize the military too? Makes no sense.

It is noted at the bottom of the link.
And yes I am biased in the way the Parties, all of them, have screwed Vets.
 

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Mostly what happens in private biz, if a company is failing consistently, the board cans the responsible dicwads and gets better ones. Unfortunately these days, severance packages are totally surreal. Like here's a reward for screwing up.
 

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Mostly what happens in private biz, if a company is failing consistently, the board cans the responsible dicwads and gets better ones. Unfortunately these days, severance packages are totally surreal. Like here's a reward for screwing up.

Canada Post Salaries in Canada | Glassdoor

Canada Post pays bonuses to 7,402 employees despite financial losses
Point- Rate higher than 10 %
More than 7,400 Canada Post employees received a performance bonus for their work last year, even though the Crown corporation was badly in the red for the first time in 16 years.

In response to two Access to Information requests filed by Torstar News, Canada Post said 7,402 employees were paid individual incentives in 2012, including 23 members of the senior management team, although Canada Post is refusing to disclose any details on how much was paid.

2 years old

Time to send a message to Canada's postal workers - Opinion - Macleans.ca
 

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Canada Post Salaries in Canada | Glassdoor

Canada Post pays bonuses to 7,402 employees despite financial losses
Point- Rate higher than 10 %
More than 7,400 Canada Post employees received a performance bonus for their work last year, even though the Crown corporation was badly in the red for the first time in 16 years.

In response to two Access to Information requests filed by Torstar News, Canada Post said 7,402 employees were paid individual incentives in 2012, including 23 members of the senior management team, although Canada Post is refusing to disclose any details on how much was paid.

2 years old

Time to send a message to Canada's postal workers - Opinion - Macleans.ca
Yeah, I have no problems with the footsoldiers getting raises, but those lazy *** dipsticks behind the counters and the brass behind them? Not a chance.
 

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Yeah, I have no problems with the footsoldiers getting raises, but those lazy *** dipsticks behind the counters and the brass behind them? Not a chance.

Skill sets for delivering mail are at the bottom end of skill sets. Does not matter if is is a street or as is more common a drop boxes for a complete neighborhood.
CP already hires contractors to deliver mail and yes they are in the union. Mobile delivery to large business sites.
 

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What I don't like is the fuzzy math. Is it because the easter bunny is fuzzy too?

Or did some mail recipients really only get fractions of their maily bits?

Say what? One of Canada’s largest employers, delivering 10 million pieces of mail, parcels and messages to more than 15 million addresses in urban, rural and remote locations across the country, could run out of cash by Easter?
 

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What I don't like is the fuzzy math. Is it because the easter bunny is fuzzy too?

Or did some mail recipients really only get fractions of their maily bits?
They may be fuzzy but you would need to look at the books.
What is not fuzzy are the pension liabilities, and we all are going to pay for that puppy.
 

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Skill sets for delivering mail are at the bottom end of skill sets. Does not matter if is is a street or as is more common a drop boxes for a complete neighborhood.
I don't care, but it seems to me that the pavement pounders should get the bonuses rather than those lazy azz fckups above them.
CP already hires contractors to deliver mail and yes they are in the union. Mobile delivery to large business sites.
I know. Ours is a pretty cool dude.
 

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I do a lot of shipping. I don't feel like paying out the azz because somebody figgers the military is too small.
 

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I do a lot of shipping. I don't feel like paying out the azz because somebody figgers the military is too small.
I dislike paying
Letter Carrier

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Canada Post Salaries
$50,140
$42k
$56k

Letter Carrier (Relief) - Hourly

3 Canada Post Salaries
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The call for privatizing Canada Post has been going on for 40 years and picked up the pace after NAFTA was signed .

Say goodbye to your 60 cents letter and say Hello to a $10.00 one.......



UPS cannot destroy our public post office through the back door of NAFTA.

So far so good.

Postal workers and the public were concerned when United Parcel Service (UPS) launched its lawsuit in 2000 against the Government of Canada, under the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). We had good reasons to be concerned. UPS’s suit was the first of its kind to argue that the delivery of public-sector services, in this case by Canada Post, represented unfair competition for private companies providing similar services. It was also the first suit to target a government cultural program, the Publications Assistance Program. Last but not least, it was the first time a foreign corporation had attempted to sue over a breach of workers’ rights - for all the wrong reasons.

UPS demanded $160 million US in damages under NAFTA, but its lawsuit was about much more than money. UPS hoped to increase its business by undermining our public post office through the back door of a trade agreement.

Fortunately, the NAFTA tribunal considering UPS’s case has rejected the courier company’s allegations on all accounts. The tribunal issued its decision on May 24, 2007, roughly six and a half years after UPS launched its challenge relating to Canada Post.

A few highlights

NAFTA’s Chapter 11 allows foreign corporations like UPS to challenge governments if they think their investments are restricted by government measures. UPS had claimed that its investments were being restricted by Canada’s publicly-funded postal network, which it argued, gave Canada Post an unfair advantage when delivering courier services that are in competition with private courier services. It had also claimed that Purolator’s access to the network was unfair.

The tribunal did not examine the allegation that Canada Post was cross subsidizing its courier and express services by using the postal network. It rejected UPS’s claims based on the wording in Chapters 11 and 15 of NAFTA. The tribunal noted that these chapters draw a clear distinction between the “parties” (or governments that are party to the agreement) on the one hand, and monopolies and state enterprises (i.e. Crown corporations like Canada Post) on the other hand.


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