Throne Speech...
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Hundreds of billions more in lavish spending plans to buy votes from low information voters who don't understand how a balance sheet works.
Then skippy the banana stuffer will come out and tell some scary stories to justify it.
Moe had best draft up some sunshine and wind taxes and get them into law ASAP. Not to mention royalties on U.
If climate is a cross border issue we must tax ON for sucking and BC for blowing. Damn wind gets on ya.
We are the only financially viable region for massive exportable quantities of reliable solar.
NOTHING beats S SK for clear skies and high UV.
If climate is a cross border issue we must tax ON for sucking and BC for blowing. Damn wind gets on ya.
We are the only financially viable region for massive exportable quantities of reliable solar.
NOTHING beats S SK for clear skies and high UV.
That’s a nice one!! Well manicured. Hopefully Trudeau’s throne speech smells better than his last 4+ years and that outhouse.
What will we here from the house today?
I can't help but think he's waiting for "the great reset", it's the only thing that explains his reckless attitude towards the monumental crushing debt he's shackled this country with. He's drank the cool-aid that Klaus Schwab and the WEF have been peddling.
It wont go through the roof. He'll build a two story shithouse with working class forced to use the bottom one.
The outhouse is level and the grass is mowed around it so it shows that somebody actually gives a shit figuratively and literally. Got to hear a little bit about the throne speech on my six minute commute home after work and it sounds like from the little bit I’ve heard the two talking points are:
1) now is not the time for fiscal responsibility and damn the torpedoes because we’re gonna freaking spend money...
2) The liberals are going to create 1 million jobs somehow that are all ecologically friendly and green approved etc. with a focus on women etc...
That was my full commute home and my sum total of knowledge of the throne speech at this point. Do I have it about summed up correctly so far?
It was a short commute home even at suppertime so that’s about all I know at this point in time. Those were the two talking points that were covered in that six minutes or so
If the Green Beans knew Liberals were backdoor funding oil and gas thru the CPP Investment Board would they happily cheer or scream bloody murder?
If you and I were to score a nice, sunny but unprofitable gas lease and chuck solar panels on the NG becomes gravy.
We'd be a net zero gas company.
Are ya in? It just a game, you'll never do time.
The Bloc Québécois and Conservative parties promised Wednesday to vote against the speech. If NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and his caucus also vote against the speech, Canadians will be headed to the polls for a fall federal election. Singh told reporters that he had not yet decided how his caucus will vote when it's given the chance in the Commons in the days ahead, etc....
Conservative Deputy Leader Candice Bergen said the Tories cannot support the speech because it doesn't address a major issue: Western alienation and national unity. Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet — who already signalled in the summer that the party would vote to bring down the Liberal government — used his three-minute response to Trudeau to demand that Ottawa flow more funds to provinces to offset the rising cost of health care. Like O'Toole, Blanchet has also tested positive for COVID-19 and the Bloc caucus is in isolation.
"They're still talking about how budgets will balance themselves, so it's very, very concerning," Bergen said, citing Trudeau's claim from years back that a growing economy would reduce federal deficits. The speech said little about the oil and gas sector — an industry that has been hit hard by sinking oil prices and dwindling demand, leaving thousands jobless. "There were no words that said, 'We value natural resources, we value our forestry workers, we value our agricultural sector.' They should have said all that and they didn't. We were hoping for something better," she said. "Conservatives continue to be the only party standing up for the West." The speech included big-ticket spending promises with no plan to pay for them — which Bergen dismissed as irresponsible.
Bergen said the speech offered little new material — "just grand gestures and empty promises" — and the prorogation of Parliament to deliver the speech was a naked attempt to shield the Liberal government from further parliamentary inquiry into the WE Charity scandal.
Trudeau said record-low interest rates make it possible for the federal treasury to loosen the purse strings and spend more to support Canadians at a critical time. The government promised to pursue an ambitious environmental agenda to fast-track Canada's efforts to dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions through home retrofits and infrastructure spending, and through tax incentives for companies building zero-emissions products, like electric vehicles. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-national-tv-address-1.5735758
Then From: http://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/world/canada/trudeau-coronavirus-throne-speech.html
“It’s up to us to build the world of tomorrow,” Mr. Trudeau said later Wednesday evening in an unusual televised address to the nation, adding that the “government will have your back, whatever it takes, to get you through this crisis.”
“This is not the time for austerity,” the speech declared.
Mr. Trudeau’s proposals, though, were short on details. Much of the package was a reworking of earlier promises from his Liberal Party, but with measures tailored to fight the coronavirus and the economic woes it has brought the country. The plan was immediately criticized by his main political rivals in the Conservative Party, who said it lacked fiscal restraint.
“They’re still talking that budgets balance themselves,” Candice Bergen, the deputy Conservative leader, told reporters. “It is another speech that is full of Liberal buzzwords and grand gestures.” Jagmeet Singh, the leader of the left-of-center New Democratic Party, also a rival to Mr. Trudeau, called the speech “empty words.” (Who's going to cave & support the Liberals in a week or so?)
Kathy Brock, a professor in the policy studies department at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, said the speech was so stuffed with promises, it may be difficult for the government to deliver. “It was a speech of promises as opposed to a speech that leads to action,”she said. “It looks to me like it’s preparing the way for an election.”
Then This: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/throne-speech-trudeau-address-2020-1.5735325
The speech says that tackling the climate change crisis will be a "cornerstone" of the government's plan and commits to creating jobs through retrofitting homes and buildings while cutting energy costs for families and businesses (About a million of them, Green approved). The Liberal government is promising to extend emergency support for Canadians hit by the COVID-19 crisis while building a more resilient economy that empowers women, fights climate change and addresses systemic racism.
Calling its roadmap an "ambitious plan for an unprecedented reality," the plan outlined in today's speech from the throne compares the current challenges to the wars and economic collapses endured by previous generations. "The economic impact of COVID-19 on Canadians has already been worse than the 2008 financial crisis. These consequences will not be short-lived," said Gov. Gen. Julie Payette, reading from the speech in the Senate Chamber.
"This is not the time for austerity." More at the LINK above....
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh would not say if his party will support the throne speech — and there could be two deal-breakers for him. He said the government must ensure that people transitioning from the Canada emergency response benefit to Employment Insurance won't be financially penalized. He also said he wants the government to provide a 10-day national sick leave program. He's set his price for the next promise to support the Liberal Minority again which they may or may not bother keeping like the last time he flopped. The government already has committed to the sick leave program, as part of a $37-billion package of benefits announced last month. One of the announcements made with Parliament closed as Trudeau hid from the WE Scandal while Campaigning for the next election.
Bergen said emergency spending was required to get Canadians through the pandemic crisis that shut down businesses and threw millions of people out of work — but the government must now better manage the nation's finances and take control of a ballooning deficit. "We believe that support is needed but there has to be fiscal restraint," she said. "We'd like to see some fiscal management and some indication that the government understands this and will begin to manage the finances of the country in a responsible way." Deltell said emergency measures were necessary but the Liberal government engaged in "superfluous" spending, making announcements about new money "every day, every week." (Liberal Campaign Style...with your, & your children's, & their children's money)
Then from Here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/trudeau-pledges-to-create-1-million-jobs-make-significant-investment-in-child-care-in-throne-speech/2020/09/23/e97dc0f0-fc3f-11ea-9ceb-061d646d9c67_story.html
Trudeau, who was on the defensive for much of the summer during an ethics controversy that has weighed on his approval ratings, made the controversial decision last month to seek the suspension of Parliament. He pledged to return with an “ambitious” plan for a green recovery that would remake the social safety net, and to put it to a confidence vote. With cases of the novel coronavirus again rising, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau laid out his priorities for a new session of Parliament on Wednesday, pledging to create 1 million jobs, establish national standards for long-term care and make a “significant” investment in child care.
The address laid out a mix of short- and long-term goals. Trudeau pledged to create a federal coronavirus testing response team, to revise the unemployment insurance system, to address systemic racism and to legislate net-zero emissions by 2050. Trudeau has pledged to put the speech to a confidence vote. With his government reduced to a minority in last year’s federal election, he’ll need the backing of one main opposition party to survive. Speculation about a possible fall election has abounded. The New Democratic Party is likeliest to provide support, but it did not commit to backing it. Other parties panned the speech.
The Conservatives said they would not support it; they called it a “another speech full of Liberal buzzwords and grand gestures” without a follow-up plan or any mention of the oil and gas sector, orchestrated entirely to shut down the committees probing the WE Charity scandal. Bloc Québécois leader Yves-François Blanchet, who is in isolation after testing positive for the coronavirus last week, tweeted that Ottawa had not listened to the “urgent and legitimate” demands of the provinces and failed to respect their jurisdiction in areas such as health care.
Lastly, Here: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/pol...one-speech-to-create-one-million-jobs-during/
The Liberal government is pledging to do “whatever it takes” to support the economy through the health and economic crisis of the coronavirus pandemic, releasing a Throne Speech Wednesday that also vows to create one million new jobs through environmentally focused measures and incentives for companies to hire and train workers.
Anyway, that's the Throne Speech from five sources with five different links.
Conservative Deputy Leader Candice Bergen said the Tories cannot support the speech because it doesn't address a major issue: Western alienation and national unity. Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet — who already signalled in the summer that the party would vote to bring down the Liberal government — used his three-minute response to Trudeau to demand that Ottawa flow more funds to provinces to offset the rising cost of health care. Like O'Toole, Blanchet has also tested positive for COVID-19 and the Bloc caucus is in isolation.
"They're still talking about how budgets will balance themselves, so it's very, very concerning," Bergen said, citing Trudeau's claim from years back that a growing economy would reduce federal deficits. The speech said little about the oil and gas sector — an industry that has been hit hard by sinking oil prices and dwindling demand, leaving thousands jobless. "There were no words that said, 'We value natural resources, we value our forestry workers, we value our agricultural sector.' They should have said all that and they didn't. We were hoping for something better," she said. "Conservatives continue to be the only party standing up for the West." The speech included big-ticket spending promises with no plan to pay for them — which Bergen dismissed as irresponsible.
Bergen said the speech offered little new material — "just grand gestures and empty promises" — and the prorogation of Parliament to deliver the speech was a naked attempt to shield the Liberal government from further parliamentary inquiry into the WE Charity scandal.
Trudeau said record-low interest rates make it possible for the federal treasury to loosen the purse strings and spend more to support Canadians at a critical time. The government promised to pursue an ambitious environmental agenda to fast-track Canada's efforts to dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions through home retrofits and infrastructure spending, and through tax incentives for companies building zero-emissions products, like electric vehicles. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-national-tv-address-1.5735758
Then From: http://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/world/canada/trudeau-coronavirus-throne-speech.html
“It’s up to us to build the world of tomorrow,” Mr. Trudeau said later Wednesday evening in an unusual televised address to the nation, adding that the “government will have your back, whatever it takes, to get you through this crisis.”
“This is not the time for austerity,” the speech declared.
Mr. Trudeau’s proposals, though, were short on details. Much of the package was a reworking of earlier promises from his Liberal Party, but with measures tailored to fight the coronavirus and the economic woes it has brought the country. The plan was immediately criticized by his main political rivals in the Conservative Party, who said it lacked fiscal restraint.
“They’re still talking that budgets balance themselves,” Candice Bergen, the deputy Conservative leader, told reporters. “It is another speech that is full of Liberal buzzwords and grand gestures.” Jagmeet Singh, the leader of the left-of-center New Democratic Party, also a rival to Mr. Trudeau, called the speech “empty words.” (Who's going to cave & support the Liberals in a week or so?)
Kathy Brock, a professor in the policy studies department at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, said the speech was so stuffed with promises, it may be difficult for the government to deliver. “It was a speech of promises as opposed to a speech that leads to action,”she said. “It looks to me like it’s preparing the way for an election.”
Then This: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/throne-speech-trudeau-address-2020-1.5735325
The speech says that tackling the climate change crisis will be a "cornerstone" of the government's plan and commits to creating jobs through retrofitting homes and buildings while cutting energy costs for families and businesses (About a million of them, Green approved). The Liberal government is promising to extend emergency support for Canadians hit by the COVID-19 crisis while building a more resilient economy that empowers women, fights climate change and addresses systemic racism.
Calling its roadmap an "ambitious plan for an unprecedented reality," the plan outlined in today's speech from the throne compares the current challenges to the wars and economic collapses endured by previous generations. "The economic impact of COVID-19 on Canadians has already been worse than the 2008 financial crisis. These consequences will not be short-lived," said Gov. Gen. Julie Payette, reading from the speech in the Senate Chamber.
"This is not the time for austerity." More at the LINK above....
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh would not say if his party will support the throne speech — and there could be two deal-breakers for him. He said the government must ensure that people transitioning from the Canada emergency response benefit to Employment Insurance won't be financially penalized. He also said he wants the government to provide a 10-day national sick leave program. He's set his price for the next promise to support the Liberal Minority again which they may or may not bother keeping like the last time he flopped. The government already has committed to the sick leave program, as part of a $37-billion package of benefits announced last month. One of the announcements made with Parliament closed as Trudeau hid from the WE Scandal while Campaigning for the next election.
Bergen said emergency spending was required to get Canadians through the pandemic crisis that shut down businesses and threw millions of people out of work — but the government must now better manage the nation's finances and take control of a ballooning deficit. "We believe that support is needed but there has to be fiscal restraint," she said. "We'd like to see some fiscal management and some indication that the government understands this and will begin to manage the finances of the country in a responsible way." Deltell said emergency measures were necessary but the Liberal government engaged in "superfluous" spending, making announcements about new money "every day, every week." (Liberal Campaign Style...with your, & your children's, & their children's money)
Then from Here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/trudeau-pledges-to-create-1-million-jobs-make-significant-investment-in-child-care-in-throne-speech/2020/09/23/e97dc0f0-fc3f-11ea-9ceb-061d646d9c67_story.html
Trudeau, who was on the defensive for much of the summer during an ethics controversy that has weighed on his approval ratings, made the controversial decision last month to seek the suspension of Parliament. He pledged to return with an “ambitious” plan for a green recovery that would remake the social safety net, and to put it to a confidence vote. With cases of the novel coronavirus again rising, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau laid out his priorities for a new session of Parliament on Wednesday, pledging to create 1 million jobs, establish national standards for long-term care and make a “significant” investment in child care.
The address laid out a mix of short- and long-term goals. Trudeau pledged to create a federal coronavirus testing response team, to revise the unemployment insurance system, to address systemic racism and to legislate net-zero emissions by 2050. Trudeau has pledged to put the speech to a confidence vote. With his government reduced to a minority in last year’s federal election, he’ll need the backing of one main opposition party to survive. Speculation about a possible fall election has abounded. The New Democratic Party is likeliest to provide support, but it did not commit to backing it. Other parties panned the speech.
The Conservatives said they would not support it; they called it a “another speech full of Liberal buzzwords and grand gestures” without a follow-up plan or any mention of the oil and gas sector, orchestrated entirely to shut down the committees probing the WE Charity scandal. Bloc Québécois leader Yves-François Blanchet, who is in isolation after testing positive for the coronavirus last week, tweeted that Ottawa had not listened to the “urgent and legitimate” demands of the provinces and failed to respect their jurisdiction in areas such as health care.
Lastly, Here: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/pol...one-speech-to-create-one-million-jobs-during/
The Liberal government is pledging to do “whatever it takes” to support the economy through the health and economic crisis of the coronavirus pandemic, releasing a Throne Speech Wednesday that also vows to create one million new jobs through environmentally focused measures and incentives for companies to hire and train workers.
Anyway, that's the Throne Speech from five sources with five different links.
Money for nothing and your chicks for free .The Bloc Québécois and Conservative parties promised Wednesday to vote against the speech. If NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and his caucus also vote against the speech, Canadians will be headed to the polls for a fall federal election. Singh told reporters that he had not yet decided how his caucus will vote when it's given the chance in the Commons in the days ahead, etc....
Conservative Deputy Leader Candice Bergen said the Tories cannot support the speech because it doesn't address a major issue: Western alienation and national unity. Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet — who already signalled in the summer that the party would vote to bring down the Liberal government — used his three-minute response to Trudeau to demand that Ottawa flow more funds to provinces to offset the rising cost of health care. Like O'Toole, Blanchet has also tested positive for COVID-19 and the Bloc caucus is in isolation.
"They're still talking about how budgets will balance themselves, so it's very, very concerning," Bergen said, citing Trudeau's claim from years back that a growing economy would reduce federal deficits. The speech said little about the oil and gas sector — an industry that has been hit hard by sinking oil prices and dwindling demand, leaving thousands jobless. "There were no words that said, 'We value natural resources, we value our forestry workers, we value our agricultural sector.' They should have said all that and they didn't. We were hoping for something better," she said. "Conservatives continue to be the only party standing up for the West." The speech included big-ticket spending promises with no plan to pay for them — which Bergen dismissed as irresponsible.
Bergen said the speech offered little new material — "just grand gestures and empty promises" — and the prorogation of Parliament to deliver the speech was a naked attempt to shield the Liberal government from further parliamentary inquiry into the WE Charity scandal.
Trudeau said record-low interest rates make it possible for the federal treasury to loosen the purse strings and spend more to support Canadians at a critical time. The government promised to pursue an ambitious environmental agenda to fast-track Canada's efforts to dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions through home retrofits and infrastructure spending, and through tax incentives for companies building zero-emissions products, like electric vehicles. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-national-tv-address-1.5735758
Then From: http://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/world/canada/trudeau-coronavirus-throne-speech.html
“It’s up to us to build the world of tomorrow,” Mr. Trudeau said later Wednesday evening in an unusual televised address to the nation, adding that the “government will have your back, whatever it takes, to get you through this crisis.”
“This is not the time for austerity,” the speech declared.
Mr. Trudeau’s proposals, though, were short on details. Much of the package was a reworking of earlier promises from his Liberal Party, but with measures tailored to fight the coronavirus and the economic woes it has brought the country. The plan was immediately criticized by his main political rivals in the Conservative Party, who said it lacked fiscal restraint.
“They’re still talking that budgets balance themselves,” Candice Bergen, the deputy Conservative leader, told reporters. “It is another speech that is full of Liberal buzzwords and grand gestures.” Jagmeet Singh, the leader of the left-of-center New Democratic Party, also a rival to Mr. Trudeau, called the speech “empty words.” (Who's going to cave & support the Liberals in a week or so?)
Kathy Brock, a professor in the policy studies department at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, said the speech was so stuffed with promises, it may be difficult for the government to deliver. “It was a speech of promises as opposed to a speech that leads to action,”she said. “It looks to me like it’s preparing the way for an election.”
Then This: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/throne-speech-trudeau-address-2020-1.5735325
The speech says that tackling the climate change crisis will be a "cornerstone" of the government's plan and commits to creating jobs through retrofitting homes and buildings while cutting energy costs for families and businesses (About a million of them, Green approved). The Liberal government is promising to extend emergency support for Canadians hit by the COVID-19 crisis while building a more resilient economy that empowers women, fights climate change and addresses systemic racism.
Calling its roadmap an "ambitious plan for an unprecedented reality," the plan outlined in today's speech from the throne compares the current challenges to the wars and economic collapses endured by previous generations. "The economic impact of COVID-19 on Canadians has already been worse than the 2008 financial crisis. These consequences will not be short-lived," said Gov. Gen. Julie Payette, reading from the speech in the Senate Chamber.
"This is not the time for austerity." More at the LINK above....
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh would not say if his party will support the throne speech — and there could be two deal-breakers for him. He said the government must ensure that people transitioning from the Canada emergency response benefit to Employment Insurance won't be financially penalized. He also said he wants the government to provide a 10-day national sick leave program. He's set his price for the next promise to support the Liberal Minority again which they may or may not bother keeping like the last time he flopped. The government already has committed to the sick leave program, as part of a $37-billion package of benefits announced last month. One of the announcements made with Parliament closed as Trudeau hid from the WE Scandal while Campaigning for the next election.
Bergen said emergency spending was required to get Canadians through the pandemic crisis that shut down businesses and threw millions of people out of work — but the government must now better manage the nation's finances and take control of a ballooning deficit. "We believe that support is needed but there has to be fiscal restraint," she said. "We'd like to see some fiscal management and some indication that the government understands this and will begin to manage the finances of the country in a responsible way." Deltell said emergency measures were necessary but the Liberal government engaged in "superfluous" spending, making announcements about new money "every day, every week." (Liberal Campaign Style...with your, & your children's, & their children's money)
Then from Here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/trudeau-pledges-to-create-1-million-jobs-make-significant-investment-in-child-care-in-throne-speech/2020/09/23/e97dc0f0-fc3f-11ea-9ceb-061d646d9c67_story.html
Trudeau, who was on the defensive for much of the summer during an ethics controversy that has weighed on his approval ratings, made the controversial decision last month to seek the suspension of Parliament. He pledged to return with an “ambitious” plan for a green recovery that would remake the social safety net, and to put it to a confidence vote. With cases of the novel coronavirus again rising, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau laid out his priorities for a new session of Parliament on Wednesday, pledging to create 1 million jobs, establish national standards for long-term care and make a “significant” investment in child care.
The address laid out a mix of short- and long-term goals. Trudeau pledged to create a federal coronavirus testing response team, to revise the unemployment insurance system, to address systemic racism and to legislate net-zero emissions by 2050. Trudeau has pledged to put the speech to a confidence vote. With his government reduced to a minority in last year’s federal election, he’ll need the backing of one main opposition party to survive. Speculation about a possible fall election has abounded. The New Democratic Party is likeliest to provide support, but it did not commit to backing it. Other parties panned the speech.
The Conservatives said they would not support it; they called it a “another speech full of Liberal buzzwords and grand gestures” without a follow-up plan or any mention of the oil and gas sector, orchestrated entirely to shut down the committees probing the WE Charity scandal. Bloc Québécois leader Yves-François Blanchet, who is in isolation after testing positive for the coronavirus last week, tweeted that Ottawa had not listened to the “urgent and legitimate” demands of the provinces and failed to respect their jurisdiction in areas such as health care.
Lastly, Here: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/pol...one-speech-to-create-one-million-jobs-during/
The Liberal government is pledging to do “whatever it takes” to support the economy through the health and economic crisis of the coronavirus pandemic, releasing a Throne Speech Wednesday that also vows to create one million new jobs through environmentally focused measures and incentives for companies to hire and train workers.
Anyway, that's the Throne Speech from five sources with five different links.
When does the voting happen? Is there a specific date? Or does it depend on the length of q and a?
Supposedly today...9/24/20....for the first confidence vote. It doesn’t give Jagmeet much time to capitulate over a promise of some more magic beans.