Re: RE: This must end NOW: Canadian Support for Israel - ENO
Just the fact that those militant groups still exist is all the evidence you need of that. You really believe Israel wanted to go to Beirut and was turned back by the Hezbo's? You don't really, do you? Sure the Israeli's were surprised by a few anti-tank weapons, but if Beirut was their goal, that would have set them back maybe a day or two, three tops.
The minority Jews got the minority land, about 20%. Most of the water forms the border between Israel and Jordan. You seem to be wrong on both points there.
You would think so but the Jews accepted the partition anyway. It was the Arabs who refused to settle for what was a sweet deal. They thought they could have it all.
Actually the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the rest of Arabia dwarfs the cleansing of Arabs from Palestine.
Yeah maybe, but they don't want it. Even Jordan, who technically owns the west bank, doesn't want it back. That makes it disputed territory, not occupied territory.
See Italy.
Exactly. That's why they're fighting for their treaty rights. Rightfully so. The land can be shared, and should be shared. Only the Arabs speaking of annihilation. Only Jews get torn to shreds in the territories. Arabs in Israel live well.
earth_as_one said:There is no evidence which supports your claim that Israel would make peace if militant groups were disarmed.
Just the fact that those militant groups still exist is all the evidence you need of that. You really believe Israel wanted to go to Beirut and was turned back by the Hezbo's? You don't really, do you? Sure the Israeli's were surprised by a few anti-tank weapons, but if Beirut was their goal, that would have set them back maybe a day or two, three tops.
The minority Jews didn't just get the most land, they also got control of most of the water, which is important in a desert.
The minority Jews got the minority land, about 20%. Most of the water forms the border between Israel and Jordan. You seem to be wrong on both points there.
An injustice on such a scale was bound to result in war
You would think so but the Jews accepted the partition anyway. It was the Arabs who refused to settle for what was a sweet deal. They thought they could have it all.
Anyone who believes that Jews have a right to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians just because Jews dominated Palestine for a short time 2000 years ago ignores completely all the events which happened since.
Actually the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the rest of Arabia dwarfs the cleansing of Arabs from Palestine.
The Romans dominated Palestine for a longer period than the Jews. Maybe Italy should have been awarded Palestine.
Yeah maybe, but they don't want it. Even Jordan, who technically owns the west bank, doesn't want it back. That makes it disputed territory, not occupied territory.
The Ottomans ruled Palestine for a much longer time than the Jews and like the Jews they were defeated by a foreign invasion. Do the Ottomans have a right to Palestine?
See Italy.
But if we are going to use this precedent of awarding sovereignty based on ancient historical and religious rights, then the first nations people own Canada, not Canadians.
Exactly. That's why they're fighting for their treaty rights. Rightfully so. The land can be shared, and should be shared. Only the Arabs speaking of annihilation. Only Jews get torn to shreds in the territories. Arabs in Israel live well.