This is sure to antagonise the left.....

Cannuck

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So... you missed the sarcasm.

As you called it FAUX news you are not a good judge on the quality and accuracy of FOX because you are biased.

Is that clear enough?

I'm not a good judge of Faux news because I don't watch it. Why would I given how their fans behave. My only exposure to Faux is when people post vids here. They are pretty funny so I can see why it is so popular. Do you think popularity equals quality?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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The only ones that like to split humans into different "races" are racist themselves.

You did by stating that the "whitey" comment was racist and not welcome. All the while you allow rampant bigotry towards Muslims as a whole.

Gerry, I hate to tell you this, but everyone is racist on some level.
 

WLDB

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Watched the video and read about half of the thread. Im pretty indifferent to it and am glad I dont have cable.
 

karrie

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I agree, it's programmed into our genes to protect our "tribe", it's a survival mechanism that we can evolve past

I think just being aware of it helps immensely.

I know darn well I get uneasy in unfamiliar settings. My first tour through the 'Elsafadi Brothers' Market' was intimidating. Going to the Halal butcher next door, twice as much so (because you're dealing with the men there, not the soft spoken women in gorgeous hijabs who run the tills at the market). It took me many trips to feel comfortable. I think it would have been easy for me to try t justify that discomfort through criticisms of the cultural differences, rather than just keep going and get used to them.
 

Sal

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We can, but some will go kicking and screaming.
yes, and it is about exposure... I remember the first "black" children I met. We lived in a neighbourhood with the only black people the town had. That's how white we were. Our neighbours really weren't black, they were brown. Relatives of theirs arrived from the deep south. I was freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaked out. I really was. They looked like something from another world. They WERE something from another world. They were so dark. I couldn't stop looking, their skin was blue black... took like three minutes... that's how fast kids adapt.

Adults not so much, but we get there but at a slower rate.

I think just being aware of it helps immensely.

I know darn well I get uneasy in unfamiliar settings. My first tour through the 'Elsafadi Brothers' Market' was intimidating. Going to the Halal butcher next door, twice as much so (because you're dealing with the men there, not the soft spoken women in gorgeous hijabs who run the tills at the market). It took me many trips to feel comfortable. I think it would have been easy for me to try t justify that discomfort through criticisms of the cultural differences, rather than just keep going and get used to them.
yes and I have to confess that after the Boston bombing I buzzed some delivery kid into our school and along he came with this package and wow, wasn't he brown skinned and doe-eyed and I frigging paused, I did. Then I realized my problem, but it shocked me quite frankly, that for a heartbeat, mine skipped.
 

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yes, and it is about exposure... I remember the first "black" children I met. We lived in a neighbourhood with the only black people the town had. That's how white we were. Our neighbours really weren't black, they were brown. Relatives of theirs arrived from the deep south. I was freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaked out. I really was. They looked like something from another world. They WERE something from another world. They were so dark. I couldn't stop looking, their skin was blue black... took like three minutes... that's how fast kids adapt.

Adults not so much, but we get there but at a slower rate.
The first black kid in our school arrived just after the Little Rock Arkansas fiasco. We all went out of our way to make him feel welcome. Within hours, nobody noticed his skin colour. He talked like us, laughed like us. He just fit in so easily. Besides, we were still steeped in the French/English conflict, the fact that he spoke English made him a shoe in.
 

karrie

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Adults not so much, but we get there but at a slower rate.

lol, maybe because we become socially conditioned to not stare and take it all in at once the way kids do.

I know, it may be a really small thing, but I have a scar on my neck from my skin cancer. Kids will stare, sometimes even touch it, and ask what happened. Grown ups will sneak glances and build up the nerve to ask questions after having known me for a while.

The Halal butcher I used to go to near my home in Edmonton had one young Muslim gentleman employed who wasn't quite mentally/socially all there, and I'll never forget how mortified the gentlemen were the day he asked me as he handed me my meat.... "Why don't you have a family?" I said "I do have a family." And he said "But women aren't supposed to be out without their family." I kindly explained that western women go plenty of places on their own (to the approving smiles of the other muslim men I might add). He shook his head in wonder. It was all highly amusing to me, and satisfied his curiosity quickly, so he didn't spend tons of time thinking western women were all unmarried, childless, friendless orphans. lol.
 

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lol, maybe because we become socially conditioned to not stare and take it all in at once the way kids do.

I know, it may be a really small thing, but I have a scar on my neck from my skin cancer. Kids will stare, sometimes even touch it, and ask what happened. Grown ups will sneak glances and build up the nerve to ask questions after having known me for a while.

The Halal butcher I used to go to near my home in Edmonton had one young Muslim gentleman employed who wasn't quite mentally/socially all there, and I'll never forget how mortified the gentlemen were the day he asked me as he handed me my meat.... "Why don't you have a family?" I said "I do have a family." And he said "But women aren't supposed to be out without their family." I kindly explained that western women go plenty of places on their own (to the approving smiles of the other muslim men I might add). He shook his head in wonder. It was all highly amusing to me, and satisfied his curiosity quickly, so he didn't spend tons of time thinking western women were all unmarried, childless, friendless orphans. lol.
haaaaaaaaaaaaa, you are so right, kids are just out there, they touch and stare and ask...I was fascinated by how pink their tongues were when they were sliding down the slide and screaming with delight, I remember staring and wishing my tongue looked that pink, noticing how white their teeth were...I didn't attribute it to contrast against the dark skin. Kids don't have this feeling yet of I want to be just like I am. They explore and appreciate differences.

I love the butcher story....LOVE it.

when my guy was in India, he went deep into the country, and at one place they visited a man approached him and asked if his child could touch his skin because the child had never seen a white man before...the kid hung out beside him the whole time he was there
 

gerryh

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Gerry, I hate to tell you this, but everyone is racist on some level.



Oh I know, personally I prefer bigoted over racist, as it is more accurate. The implication was, however, that consequences could be had for using the term "whitey" whereas there are obviously no consequences for other forms of bigotry.
 

L Gilbert

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I'm not on the board of directors of Quebecor and thus I can't give you a definitive answer, but let's use our brains for just one moment, please. Quebecor owns Vidéotron, a majority Francophone cable provider. Sun News is an English-language news network.

Am I the only one connecting the dots?
No.
Have I gone mad?
Apparently I have, too. lol

Anyway, if SUN can provide a better quality news than the usual porridge of fact n fiction, that's great. If not, they can join the rest of the tv crowd that we don't watch here.

BTW, Andem is correct. DNA does not make us just essentially the same; it makes us all different from bone structure, thought processes (it does that along with environmental differences in experiences), etc. The may be only a percentage of nucleotides (approximately 0.25% of base pairs alone) that are different in humans, but that's quite significant considering that our nearest relatives of anthropoids are only slightly less than 2% different from us. Small percentage points but we are speaking of numbers like 3 billion (the number of nucleotides in one single genome).

Also, I pay taxes for schools and the like even though our kids are no longer of school age. I don't mind paying for the CBC even though I don't watch tv.

Gerry, I hate to tell you this, but everyone is racist on some level.
So far, not terribly fond of noseeums, stinkbugs, and I think some bacteria, virii, and suchlike are absolutely vile. I do have a small modicum of bias against what wifey refers to as subhuman troglodytes, though, but those come in a very wide variety of populations. There is only one race of H. Sapiens.

lol, maybe because we become socially conditioned to not stare and take it all in at once the way kids do.

I know, it may be a really small thing, but I have a scar on my neck from my skin cancer. Kids will stare, sometimes even touch it, and ask what happened. Grown ups will sneak glances and build up the nerve to ask questions after having known me for a while.

The Halal butcher I used to go to near my home in Edmonton had one young Muslim gentleman employed who wasn't quite mentally/socially all there, and I'll never forget how mortified the gentlemen were the day he asked me as he handed me my meat.... "Why don't you have a family?" I said "I do have a family." And he said "But women aren't supposed to be out without their family." I kindly explained that western women go plenty of places on their own (to the approving smiles of the other muslim men I might add). He shook his head in wonder. It was all highly amusing to me, and satisfied his curiosity quickly, so he didn't spend tons of time thinking western women were all unmarried, childless, friendless orphans. lol.
lol.
 

DaSleeper

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Just about everyone has their story of the first Black, Mexican, Native Etc., they ever met....and most of them were pleasant first encounter including most of mine...
Now just imagine a kid and the first time he meets a (insert your favorite race or colour) , gets a rock thrown at him , or his ball stolen....just might have a problem warming up to others like that individual.
 

L Gilbert

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Just about everyone has their story of the first Black, Mexican, Native Etc., they ever met....and most of them were pleasant first encounter including most of mine...
Now just imagine a kid and the first time he meets a (insert your favorite race or colour) , gets a rock thrown at him , or his ball stolen....just might have a problem warming up to others like that individual.
First black person I met gave me a black eye. We became best friends after we discovered we actually had a lot in common (black eyes). The discovery came about by mutual respect. :D

Either way, respect is sadly lacking in me for tv news.
 

SLM

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Just about everyone has their story of the first Black, Mexican, Native Etc., they ever met....and most of them were pleasant first encounter including most of mine...
Now just imagine a kid and the first time he meets a (insert your favorite race or colour) , gets a rock thrown at him , or his ball stolen....just might have a problem warming up to others like that individual.

And that kid grows up to be the next Grand Dragon or start his very own hellfire and brimstone "we hate everything and everyone" church of "God".

Lol. Kidding. Sort of. ;)

While I do take you point, it still has to be reinforced. Kids just don't connect the dots between "this black kid took my ball" with "all black people are bad" (or insert your favourite race/colour, etc). Sadly it takes an adult to something like that. That kind hate has to be fostered, in families and in communities, otherwise it just becomes a singular incident that most people get over.
 

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An interesting query indeed on Videotron........


Quebecor, the owners of Sun News also own Videotron, a cable company serving almost two million subscribers in Quebec and Ontario. They are before the CRTC right now demanding that Canadians subsidize their Sun News operation by being forced to have it added to all cable packages with an accompanying increase in cable bills. They claim this is necessary because they aren't seen in enough households and they need this forced government subsidy to survive.

When asked why they don't automatically add Sun News to their own Videotron cable network with prominent channel placement as they have every right to do and are NOT doing now they had no answer.

Why should the Canadian people be forced to provide corporate welfare to a private TV channel that their own owner won't support and promote?


Rusty Idols: Whining Corporate Welfare Bums
 

Zipperfish

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Pretty crass way to describe the CBC

CBC Newsworld doesn't have Mandatory Carriage. Nor does the CTV News Network. Nor do any of the other news networks--Fox, CNN, Al jazeera. The way things are going cable TV will not even exist as such in a few years. We're moving towards more of a Netflix model. The best thing the government can do is get out of the way.
 

DaSleeper

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The latest on mandatory carriage order....
Lilley weighs on on the CBC's mandatory carriage order : Prime time : SunNews Video Gallery

CBC Newsworld doesn't have Mandatory Carriage. Nor does the CTV News Network. Nor do any of the other news networks--Fox, CNN, Al jazeera. The way things are going cable TV will not even exist as such in a few years. We're moving towards more of a Netflix model. The best thing the government can do is get out of the way.

Seems like they do.....at least the CBC