This is NOT the time for ugly political opportunism

Blackleaf

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You are visibly worried.

I'm not worried, neither visibly nor non-visibly. It's not us Brexiters who are panicking and therefore having to concoct increasingly desperate and alarmist scare stories - it's the Bremainiacs. And they are desperate and panicking and scaremongering because they know, barring a miracle, they are going to lose this referendum. This has been clear for at least the last fortnight.
 

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Which means he fits the profile of a Ukipper.

One could easily say that a mentally deranged person fits the profile of the average libtard.

Let's face it, the chances are that someone who is mentally ill aren't going to support Ukip, a party with commonsense, sane policies. They're going to support Greens or LibDens and read The Graun.
 

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I'm not worried, neither visibly nor non-visibly. It's not us Brexiters who are panicking and therefore having to concoct increasingly desperate and alarmist scare stories - it's the Bremainiacs. And they are desperate and panicking and scaremongering because they know, barring a miracle, they are going to lose this referendum. This has been clear for at least the last fortnight.

A fort what?

Can you repeat that in European please?
 

Blackleaf

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Fort what?

Sorry, can you repeat that in European please?

As Simon Heffer points out in the Telegraph:

"The polling model is so unreliable that one simply cannot predict the outcome. Anecdotally, the hardening of the Leave vote, for all the reasons I have stated, seems widespread. And talking of the trenches and the Blitz, the deep patriotism of our so-called "ordinary people", which engendered such heroism then, is to the fore now.

A vast swathe of the Conservative Party, appalled at the antics of its leaders, decided to Leave a long time ago; now millions of natural Labour voters, whose leaders have failed to give them any genuine reason to vote to stay in an organisation that has become a byword for anti-democracy, have joined them. They in turn join millions more who have felt disfranchised for years, and who are now seizing the opportunity to speak, without interpretation, about how they wish their country to be sovereign again. Whatever the outcome next Thursday, our politics will change seismically, because people will no longer bear the imperious treatment of old."


By the way, when are you petitioning your government to get your country to join the EU, an organisation you obviously think is so wonderful and provides great benefits to all its Member States?
 

mentalfloss

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And I'm sure I can give you some dimwitted rationalizations from the Toronto Sun as well.
 

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Bremain leads over Brexit | News

The tide is clearly turning on this one.

This is why referendums are a horrible way of gauging broad support.

Flawed, but not "horrible" Better to go to the people on issues that address the very essence of the nation. Far too important to leave to politicians.

Oh....and I'd pay $500 for a cricket bat and 5 minutes with that idiot that shot Jo Cox.........a complete innocent, and by all reports, a lovely person.
 

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Tell that to the husband/wife, son/daughter of the victim & other close relatives!




And a f**king A$$hole to boot!

I was referring to Jo Cox as a lovely person and a complete innocent.......mind you, she was wrong on just about everything, but that is irrelevant now.
 

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Flawed, but not "horrible" Better to go to the people on issues that address the very essence of the nation. Far too important to leave to politicians.

Completely disagree.


Especially when people aren't properly educated on the subject matter.


No one really knows what the fukk Brexit or Bremain really means for the country.


The fact that it's so close just proves this.


At least the politicians have some idea.


Brexit prediction too close to call

 

Colpy

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Completely disagree.


Especially when people aren't properly educated on the subject matter.


No one really knows what the fukk Brexit or Bremain really means for the country.


The fact that it's so close just proves this.


At least the politicians have some idea.


Brexit prediction too close to call


Of course you disagree....you are by temperrment and ideology a statist of the left.

It is amazing how the left consistently goes on about how they love the people, oh the people! For the people......whom the left despise and disrespect at every turn.

They believe the people must be driven to the right choices.

It is one of the things in political philosophy that simply amazes me.

And the left is consistent in its scorn of those it claims to protect.
 

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What tripe.


I just recognize that people have their own lives and don't have time to properly educate themselves on these things.

That's why you have town halls and meetings on the ground to gauge support.


Or, you know, we can just have a confused mass of people who don't know what they are voting on making an extremely conflicted decision that would have significant consequences for them.
 

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What tripe.


I just recognize that people have their own lives and don't have time to properly educate themselves on these things.

That's why you have town halls and meetings on the ground to gauge support.


Or, you know, we can just have a confused mass of people who don't know what they are voting on making an extremely conflicted decision that would have significant consequences for them.

And the people should have no say in changes to their own electoral system.

And the people are not to be trusted with dangerous weapons.

And the people are so stupid they should not be allowed to make any decision on the future of their country.

Uh huh.

And I'm sure you will provide me with much more ammunition in the near future.
 

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And the people should have no say in changes to their own electoral system.

And the people are not to be trusted with dangerous weapons.

And the people are so stupid they should not be allowed to make any decision on the future of their country.

Uh huh.

And I'm sure you will provide me with much more ammunition in the near future.


In all of these cases, the people have their say when they cast their ballot.

That's democracy.
 

Colpy

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In all of these cases, the people have their say when they cast their ballot.

That's democracy.

Bull****.

The people of the USA never voted to truncate the Bill of Rights.

Electoral Reform was not a major plank in the Liberal's platform........and you know as well as I do people did not vote on that issue.

The UK in or out is a momentous decision, to ignore the people is outrageous.

You are simply piling insult on top of insult.

As I knew you would, you can't help it, it is in the DNA of lefties, who always think they know better than the people.
 

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Bremain leads over Brexit | News

The tide is clearly turning on this one.

This is why referendums are a horrible way of gauging broad support.

"Specifically, the results showed a 44-43 percent lead for “In,” the Sunday Times reported. - See more at: Bremain leads over Brexit | News"

44 - 43.................oh yeah the tide is clearly turning on that huge lead.
http://www.sigmalive.com/en/news/in...dum-eu/146067/bremain-leads-over-brexit#.dpuf

Completely disagree.


Especially when people aren't properly educated on the subject matter.


No one really knows what the fukk Brexit or Bremain really means for the country.


The fact that it's so close just proves this.


At least the politicians have some idea.


Brexit prediction too close to call


Well one thing it would mean if they do leave is that Britain will once again be able to get handle on immigration. As it stands now anyone living in an EU country has the absolute right to pick up sticks and move to whatever other country in the union he/she chooses and apply for work and no one and nothing barring a criminal background can stop them. Just imagine if that were the case for our country and we had no control whatsoever over people flooding into Canada.
 

mentalfloss

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Bull****.

The people of the USA never voted to truncate the Bill of Rights.

Electoral Reform was not a major plank in the Liberal's platform........and you know as well as I do people did not vote on that issue.

The UK in or out is a momentous decision, to ignore the people is outrageous.

You are simply piling insult on top of insult.

As I knew you would, you can't help it, it is in the DNA of lefties, who always think they know better than the people.

The Liberals made a blunt statement prior to the election, that if they were elected, it would be the last FPTP election.

Not sure why you needed to lie about it, but I can't say I'm surprised.


By comparison, the British conbots actually promised a referendum so they at least obtained the authority to do so.