The only memorial I can think of that could possibly be religious neutral would be a multi-religious memorial. An atheist being offended by a cross is just as ridiculous as a Christian being offended about Jewish symbols.
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Maybe a memorial that consisted of an old worn-out T-shirt might suffice... Provided that it non-religious individual wore it at one point
This is not tolerance, however, many religious beliefs have embraced a similar value. Not one of them should ever be granted such an unreasonable right.
Jesus! No way! Not a wholey holey t-shirt.
I think when we're dead and playing ball for the Saints on the Elysian Fields, we'll all get along, except when there is a referee miscall or piling on.
Yes, I've seen posts and articles like that too. I don't support them. They basically say that they have grown tired of being tolerant of Muslims while citing examples of Muslim atrocities in other countries. I believe they are headed in the wrong direction.
Is that how you atheists refer to the non-denominational shirt?
... And here I thought that using any term that even, remotely suggested religion was verboten
No, I'm amused by the butthurt little boy who equates anybody objecting to something he says or does with it being "forbidden."
I don't know what kind of mind equates getting pushback with being a victim of the Nazis, but it sure as shootin' don't understand the whole notion of freedom of speech.
Cheers for telling us that. We would never have known otherwise.
No, it wouldn't be reasonable. America is a Christian country. It's not a Jewish, Muslim, Hindu or Sikh country. It's a country in which 73% of the people are Christians and a half are Protestants.
Of the 9/11 victims, only 15% were Jews and just 5% or so were Muslims.
So you can stick your PC "non-Christian" or "non-denominational" memorial. After all, God did create everybody equal and in His own image, no matter what religion they follow.
So, that makes them less dead?
If everybody is equal, why do you want to deny non-Christians a memorial that reflects their understanding of Gawd?
Sounds to me like you're saying Christians should rule.
The U.S. is a secular country, by the way. The Framers designed it that way.
Let everyone grieve in their own way, and respect the grieving of others, but when a bunch of asshats are more concerned about violating the grieving of others, I say we need to draw a line in the sand and remind them to look up the last article in the declaration of human rights and freedoms. it basically says that your rights don't give you the justification to destroy the rights of others.
As an Atheists, I am not affronted, offended, upset, or even miffed for those who want to have a cross there. I don`t feel excluded.
If it helps people come together, to be charitable, to be good people, to help one another to see a cross there, to have the cross there why would that negatively effect me?
I as an atheist I actually feel that this group is fighting the wrong fight (if there's even a fight to be had)
FYI:
The USA was NOT founded on christian values, or as a christian nation. If a Christian nation had been the intent of the founders, they would have put that in the Constitution, front and center. Yet the text of the Constitution contains no references to God, Jesus Christ, or Christianity. That document does not state that our country is an officially Christian nation.
5 Reasons America Is Not -- And Has Never Been -- a Christian Nation | Alternet
The gov't does use Christianity to further it's agenda. But not from belief in it, but as a tool to control its populace.
If it helps people come together, to be charitable, to be good people, to help one another to see a cross there, to have the cross there why would that negatively effect me?
I as an atheist I actually feel that this group is fighting the wrong fight (if there's even a fight to be had)
FYI:
The USA was NOT founded on christian values, or as a christian nation. If a Christian nation had been the intent of the founders, they would have put that in the Constitution, front and center. Yet the text of the Constitution contains no references to God, Jesus Christ, or Christianity. That document does not state that our country is an officially Christian nation.
5 Reasons America Is Not -- And Has Never Been -- a Christian Nation | Alternet
The gov't does use Christianity to further it's agenda. But not from belief in it, but as a tool to control its populace.
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I have to take offense at your concept of "judeo-christian" principles. These basic tenets of living together and caring for one another predate christianity or judaism by millenia. The jews and christians do not own these priciples nor did they invent them and they certainly do not have a patent on them. Fact is, like basically everything in christianity, the ideals were stolen from previous religions and incorporated into the new religion simply because it makes it easier to convert people when you bring parts of their prior religion into your new one. Why do you think the Old Testament (a collection of Jewish writings) is included in modern christianity.
Anyway, these morals and principles have been around for many thousands of years and are basically inherent in humanity. Christians laying some claim to owning them is just another reason why the world is continually at war between religions. Everybody can't be right and I would say none of them are. All religions are false and based upon supposition and fairy-tales. The sooner we eradicate all religions from the planet the better off we will all be.