They executed an innocent man!

The Old Medic

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There is absolutely no evidence in that article that this man was innocent.

You can not make the claim that it does, because it does not. It states that ONE aspect of his trial may have been incorrect, but as the police and prosecutors pointed out, that was far from the only factor that proved to the satisfaction of the jury that this man was guilty.

Of course his mother believes he was innocent. Mothers almost always believe their children are innocent.

Neither you, nor I, know if this man was guilty or not. We do not have the transcript of his trial available to us, so we do not know what evidence, other than the arson testimony, was used by the jury in convicting him.

And it is absolutely wrong to call George W. Bush the "Chief Texacutioner". He swore to uphold the Constitution of the State of Texas when he became Governor. That Constitution specifically calls for the Death Penalty to be applied. Had he not signed those death warrants, he would have been in violation of his oath of office.

If you do not agree with Texas' use of the death penalty, I suggest that you move there and try to convince the citizens of that state to eliminate it.
 

EagleSmack

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First off... I am against Capital Punishment. But it wasn't just a Bush thing. Clinton and Obama comes from a Capital Punisment states as well.

I tried searching for photos of Susan Smith and her kids. When her trial was being played they showed all kinds of photos and videos of her loving on her children...

That was before she strapped them in her car and drove the car into a lake and drowned them.
 

JLM

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There is absolutely no evidence in that article that this man was innocent.

You can not make the claim that it does, because it does not. It states that ONE aspect of his trial may have been incorrect, but as the police and prosecutors pointed out, that was far from the only factor that proved to the satisfaction of the jury that this man was guilty.

Of course his mother believes he was innocent. Mothers almost always believe their children are innocent.

Neither you, nor I, know if this man was guilty or not. We do not have the transcript of his trial available to us, so we do not know what evidence, other than the arson testimony, was used by the jury in convicting him.

And it is absolutely wrong to call George W. Bush the "Chief Texacutioner". He swore to uphold the Constitution of the State of Texas when he became Governor. That Constitution specifically calls for the Death Penalty to be applied. Had he not signed those death warrants, he would have been in violation of his oath of office.

If you do not agree with Texas' use of the death penalty, I suggest that you move there and try to convince the citizens of that state to eliminate it.

Yeah, a lot of people get emotional over that subject. We need it up here. Too much money being wasted boarding Pickton, Olson, Bernardo, Hueneman and several dozen others of their ilk.

First off... I am against Capital Punishment. But it wasn't just a Bush thing. Clinton and Obama comes from a Capital Punisment states as well.

I tried searching for photos of Susan Smith and her kids. When her trial was being played they showed all kinds of photos and videos of her loving on her children...

That was before she strapped them in her car and drove the car into a lake and drowned them.

Yep, she's a right bitch that one. No business being alive. :smile:
 

EagleSmack

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Capital Punishment since 1976



Illinois (Obama's State) 12 Executions 14 on Death Row

Arkansas (Clinton's State) 27 Executions 43 on Death Row

Georgia (Carter's State) 47 Executions 107 on Death Row


Sure Texas has more...but Texas is a Big Azz State!
 

joanna73chen

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Poor child! The evidence is the most important. We can not judge a person that he is a good one or a criminal that merely base his facies, even I see much smile from his face. Now I pray for that all the parents love their kids and all kids happily grow.
 

#juan

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Unless you've read a whole lot more than what you have shown here, I don't know how you conclude that this man is innocent. You think that a picture the press printed makes him guilt free? When the press wants to make the law look bad, they could take Charles Manson, put him in a suit with a smile on his face and tell everyone what an angel he is and it would be believed. Happens all the time. The man could be innocent but if he has already been executed, the evidence must have been pretty compelling. Doesn't it usually take about 20 yrs. for someone to actually receive the death penalty?

Right VanIsle. A picture doesn't make one innocent or guilty. I would have to say that most people who are executed
are guilty. A court has found him guilty and no doubt several appeals have failed to overturn that verdict.
 

JLM

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I saw a documentary on this story, the guy was supposed to have burned his house with his little children in it. He was a model father who loved his kids. He was convicted mostly on forensic fire evidence. According to the documentary it has now been proven that the burn pattern they were talking about can be caused without flammables.

Look at the guys face and his incredible little kids!!!

My God, they executed an innocent man

Read the article here

He looks like a psychopath to me. :lol:
 

MapleOne

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" Todd Willingham. He was innocent and Texas killed him. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, in 2006, wrote that, in the modern judicial system there has not been “a single case–not one–in which it is clear that a person was executed for a crime he did not commit. If such an event had occurred in recent years"

Link - They executed an innocent man

This post is not about pro or con death penalty, it is about an innocent man executed for killing his kids when he was really a loving father. This case is the biggest atrocity I ever saw. His soul will never rest, just imagine losing your kids and then being convicted for it when you are innocent. All the fire experts said the evidence in this case was completely flawed.

Do some research on the case and I bet the more you see the more your heart will melt at this story.