There have been 18 US school shootings this year. Is it time to arm teachers?

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Miltary bases around the world, almost a hundred now.
Can reach any point on Earth with a military strike.
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I'd say they have done pretty well.



Pax Americana is hardly a sign that the USA is doing well, especially when it cannot solve its own domestic problems.

Years ago America first advocates affirmed Washington's demand of refraining from international affairs. As one who has supported this viewpoint for numerous decades, I see the USA's wastage of tax dollars in overseas military bases as failure, not success.
 

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The old fashioned isolationism of America is sorely needed these days.

Since they have decided to police the world everything has gone for a dump.
 

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Pax Americana is hardly a sign that the USA is doing well, especially when it cannot solve its own domestic problems.

Years ago America first advocates affirmed Washington's demand of refraining from international affairs. As one who has supported this viewpoint for numerous decades, I see the USA's wastage of tax dollars in overseas military bases as failure, not success.

It is really hard to see what advantage it has brought to the American people other than a growing planetary dislike of America and it's people. Regime changes were temporary, if at all. Cheap Middle Eastern oil wasn't. The US is bankrupt, if proper accounting were conducted. The World is not a better place and the body USA has become sick in the process.
 

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One of the pupils at that school at the time of the massacre was a certain Andy Murray, who went on to win Wimbledon twice.

Fake news! Fake news! There is no connection between access to guns and shooting!
 

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Since 1900, there have been two school shootings in the UK, with 17 people being killed (18 including the gunman, and all those were at Dunblane, with no fatalities in the other school shooting), the same as the latest US school shooting.

Since 1900, there have been 18 school shootings in Canada, with 42 dead.
 

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The rate of mass shootings has tripled since 2011. We blame guns, violence in the media, violence in video games, and poor family values. Each is a plausible player. But our daughters live in the same homes, with the same access to the same guns, video games, and media, and are raised with the same family values. Our daughters are not killing. Our sons are.
Daughters are committing suicides in record numbers. Teen girl suicides have doubled in the past 10 years.

DOUBLED
 

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Lack of fathers, faith and family.
"Between 1982 and 2017, 92 of 95 mass shootings in the US were carried out by men, and only three involved a woman."

Why only men?

Aren't woman fatherless just as often?

"Characteristics of USA school shooters? Male; used legally owned firearms - usually semi-automatic weapons; were ex students of the school they targeted."

sounds like being an ex student has something to do with it....


"If you look at the motivation that we know about it does seem to be that men handle their catastrophic loss and self esteem worse than women."

"Men also have unequal access to guns and training in using weapons like handguns and rifles."

hmmmm - this sounds interesting.

white men are less able to handle life's little ups and downs and have access to guns and often use those guns to kill their imaginary enemies.

Walter if ANYBODY should get this it's you.

These guys all feel about their school mates that way you feel about blackies.
 

petros

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You are a racist Nazi.

When it comes to non-white shooters, there is more racial/ethnic diversity than is often realized. There have been at least eight shooters of Asian heritage. Gang Lu was an international student from China at the University of Iowa, where he committed his attack in 1991. Wayne Lo immigrated with his family from China; at 18 he went on a rampage at Simon’s Rock College in Great Barrington, Massachusetts, in 1992. In 1994, Phu Cuong Ta, a Vietnamese Canadian, shot two guidance counselors at his school in Toronto. Biswanath Halder was an immigrant from India who at the age of 62 went on a rampage at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, in 2003. Kimveer Gill’s parents were from India; Gill shot 20 people at Dawson College in Montreal in 2006. In 2007, Seung Hui Cho, from South Korea, committed the rampage at Virginia Tech. In 2009, Jiverly Wong, a Vietnamese immigrant, attacked the American Civic Association in Binghamton, New York, where he had studied English as a second language. Most recently, in 2012, One Goh, an immigrant from South Korea, shot ten people, killing seven, at Oikos University in Oakland, California.

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Regarding Latino shooters, Alvaro Castillo’s parents were from Spain and El Salvador. Castillo committed an attack in Hillsborough, North Carolina in 2006. Wellington de Oliveira was a Brazilian who committed his attack in Brazil in 2011. There are two other shooters who might have had Latino heritage, judging by last names. Jason Hoffman shot people at his school in El Cajon, California in 2001. Hoffman’s mother was Denise Marquez, whose name suggests Latino descent though I have not seen this confirmed. Similarly, Robert Flores, who killed three professors at the University of Arizona in 2002, may have been at least partly Latino.

Several shooters have had African heritage. In 1984, Tyrone Mitchell, an 28-year-old African American man opened fire on a school yard in Los Angeles, shooting twelve people. Marc Lepine’s father was from Algeria; Lepine conducted his rampage at the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal in 1989. Peter Odighizuwa, who killed people at the Appalachian School of Law in Virginia in 2002, was Nigerian. Latina Williams, mentioned above as a female shooter, was also African American.

Three school shooters have had Native American heritage: Jeffrey Weise (Red Lake, Minnesota, 2005), Seth Trickey (Fort Gibson, Oklahoma, 1999), and Evan Ramsey (Bethel, Alaska, 1997), whose mother was a native Alaskan.

The belief that school shooters are all white is odd considering there have been at least 14 who were not white. This is even more striking considering that by far the most deadly attack was committed by Seung Hui Cho, with 32 fatalities and 49 victims overall. In addition, Jiverly Wong killed as many people as Harris and Klebold at Columbine, but whereas Columbine became the epitome of school shootings, Wong’s attack is virtually unspoken of. Perhaps because it was not at a typical school? Perhaps because he killed adults, not children or teens?

As noted regarding the attacks by females, many of those by non-white males did not occur in secondary schools. Seven of the shootings by Asians, and one by an international student from Africa, occurred at colleges or universities. To the extent that we think of school shootings as occurring in secondary schools, we lose sight of those in higher education.

We may also lose sight of shootings outside the USA. Wellington de Oliveira’s attack in Brazil had 32 victims. Marc Lépine’s rampage in Montreal had 26 victims. Also in Montreal, Kimveer Gill shot 20 people. These were large-scale incidents by shooters who were not white, yet they seem to have had no impact on the belief that school shooters are white

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