shet ye fly trap selfslong ye make no sense. dummy
and that goes for your boyfriend Megapuke too.
The wrangling of Prophet Abraham with the angels
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and that goes for your boyfriend Megapuke too.
So according to you, all those who are devoted to God alone are Muslim?
Just also wanted to point out that Abraham could never be Christian. And since he was the founder of the "One God Only" faith, technically he could be called a Jew.
Selfsame, you realize that cherry-picking who is and isn't of God is against the 'rules', right? It's not up to you who is and who isn't welcomed by God. Even Mohammed doesn't have the right to say who is and who isn't going to be welcomed. No religion has that right, for in doing so they are Usurping God's will.
I would be doing other things than hanging around religious based threads.
Rather than deal with the hypothetical why not deal with the reality of the situation. That situation is the doctrine I have accepted is the reason I'm still a believer because what is promoted by mainstream theology is flawed, some by design and some because they don't know any better. Most 'believers' who claim to be critical thinkers have simply adopted parts and pieces from various doctrines and they claim it is 'correct'. (at the same God if it is promoted that the 'best doctrine' uses the books in the Bible the same way, a little bit from each is gathered and that picture is used as the base and the details of 'another doctrine')
Lu:24:27:
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,
he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
For the time you have been on these threads you could have gotten the jest of how it works. As it is your normal posts are basically the same words in a different order. In Scripture that is a 'vain repetition' and God works in a different way. If you were to allow yourself to read the passages that Jesus was referencing you would have an idea of just what doctrine the book promotes. If you view it as fiction that is quite fine, you may have read or watched Lord of the Rings and understood the 'plot line'. Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 would be like the Hobbit and Ge:3:15 would be the trilogy part.
You view me as a monkey in every respect and that is the only argument you present for any thread. You seem to be the one who is having trouble updating your version of reality, about everything rather than just the Bible. You are the only one making sure that doesn't change.
As it is the number of words that are needed will be spent on replies like this as that is how delicate your hold on reality is. Take one part away and the whole thing crumbles. Time is on my side as far as which one of us will have to say, 'Shyt.' at some point in 'the conversation. What you do with that moment would determine if you are capable of becoming wiser instead of being more stubborn no matter what.
In the verse above you would be Pharaoh after God hardened his heart so he could not change his mind before the plagues had played out in full. That works outs for him and his family because that means they will be alive for the 1,000 year reign, how about for the person in the verse below?? A coward by another name.
Joh:12:42:
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
Using that logic Adam could be a 'Jew'. The a prophecy about the end it is said that the people in Judea will see something and that is a sign to run away very fast if you want to save your life. The message is not for Jews, it is for Gentiles who are in the OT borders of Judea. She ceased to be called that when the Temple was sacked in 70AD so Jews were not born within those borders again and prophecy says Abraham's sons have to be alive and standing on the promised land before 'their return' happens.
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Well, you danced around the question nicely. I expected as much. Typical Christian defensive posture with several words strung together spouting nothing of substance when a simple yes or no would have sufficed. ~ let your conversation be yes or no, for all else comes of evil~. Well done.
Perhaps you preconceived vision made you miss this part which would make it a definite Yes.
"I would be doing other things than hanging around religious based threads."
"I would be doing other things than hanging around religious based threads."
Just can't help yeself can ye.
. Yer gonna run that Paulian attitude till the day you take your dirt nap. I asked you a simple , honest question and as usual you took the opportunity to type another fookin speech. My advise to you would be to take your pills and go lay down until nurse Ratchett calls you for chow.
The first 12 words were meant for you, the rest was mean for the OP more or less. Next you will be complaining that my replies to you are too short and border on being an insult. News flash: they are supposed to be way on one side of that border, that you can't figure that out only means you are on one side of the stupid line and 1 foot is as good as a mile as far as that line goes.
Last time she called me for that she was the only thing on the menu. Mary fuking Poppins she is now.
Last time she called me for that she was the only thing on the menu. Mary fuking Poppins she is now.
Christians are not devoted to God alone, but they associate Jesus Christ in a way of enthusiasm; such enthusiasm has led them to believe in the Trinity [Three parts in one]: which actually and obviously is against the true monotheism and the 'exclusive devotion to God alone.'
In addition, some of Christians said also and depending on some falsified and distorted texts and mis-interpretations of such texts .. some said Jesus Christ is the son of God; which is the top of the enthusiasm that is not said by any heavenly religion or any prophet. It is likened to the idolatry of the ancients who claimed their kings were the sons of gods.
Moreover, and even worse in the maximum enthusiasm, which is not logical even and non-sense: is the claim of some of Christians that Jesus Christ is God Himself!!!
Which had been said by Jews concerning the Priest or Scribe Ezra son of Siraeh who re-wrote the Torah following their return from the captivity of Babylon. That was in the past: at the start they equalized him with Moses to whom God had spoken and wrote for him the Tablets by the pen of His might. So they said Ezra was like Moses in this respect, because God according to their claim wrote His name in the blank space in the book of Ezra.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/conflicts/index.htm#The_Torah_[or_Hebrew_Bible]_of_Ezra_
Jews fell in the idolatry many many times in their history, and they worshiped the statue of the calf in the time of Moses, then worshiped the two calf statues made for them by Jeroboam son of Nebet then they kept worshiping such statues for a long time till their kingdom was conquered.
Moreover, Jews worshiped the Baal, Istaroth and the star Sirius which they called the Queen of Heaven.
In addition, in the present time: many of them (and others) worship Satan and the genie. In addition to their worshiping of the tombs of their prophets and religious figures.
So Muslims, yes they are and they should be devoted to God alone: this is the basis of the Islam religion and the first word of testimony any convertor should say: No god but God alone, Mohammed is the messenger of God.
But not every Muslim: most Muslims have now fallen in the idolatry: which is the worship of the tombs of the imams and sheikhs in addition to their exaggeration and much glorification of the prophet himself and his family and companions.
Quran 6: 116, which means:
{If you obey most of the [people] on earth [in their opinions], they will lead you astray far from God's way d [because] they only follow surmise e and only they insist on lying.}
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d Because they are associaters, and to each sect have their doctrine of falsehood different from the other sect, while each one of them invites you to his religion and his creed.
e About their creeds, without referring and holding fast with any heavenly book.
Certainly Abraham could never be Christian, and could never be Jew: because he was before the revelation of the Torah of Moses and the Gospel of Jesus.
Abraham in fact was not the founder of the "One God Only" faith; other prophets before him like Noah and Adam still before him; (In fact the religion of God in the heavens and the earth and the entire universe is that God is One God and the devotion should be to Him alone) but Abraham was prominent in this respect: because he strove to spread this faith and from him stemmed the Isaac branch and the Ishmael branch (in addition to his other sons from Kattorah: Midian and others)
Therefore, the importance of Abraham, and why God commanded Prophet Mohammed to follow the faith of Abraham because he was pure and before the distortions and confusions of Jews and Christians.
God Himself and not Mohammed or anyone else; God cursed Jews: the disobedient of course, in the Psalms, the Gospel, and the Quran in addition to the Torah itself.
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So in conclusion: any wise man who wants to follow the truth and to save himself in the Next Life and to be prosperous there .. he should convert to the religion of the Islam which the most recent religion but should not follow the enthusiasm of some Muslims or else he will also perish and lose.
Every wise man should believe in the Islam religion in its pure form: the exclusive devotion to God alone, and should study the Quran full of wisdom and pure knowledge .. or else anyone dies being non-Muslim, will lose in the Next Life.
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Never, these are not among the names of God; to Him belong the most fair names: Most Gracious, Most Kind, Most Compassionate and of course the All-Mighty and other so many fair and beautiful names.
The guilt is your guilt and the fear will accompany you, God's enemy.
What do you care Abraham was a Jewish guy wasn't he, and if he recounted such
a story today just like the prophet MO he would be put in an asylum One thing I will
give the Middle East they had some of the best drugs ever.
a story today just like the prophet MO he would be put in an asylum One thing I will
give the Middle East they had some of the best drugs ever.
You forgot, Viscious, Bloodthirsty, Barbaric Idol, Demon from Hell, Allah ...all of those other pseudonyms for Lucifer.
The asylum is nearer to you, damngrumpy. So beware of speaking such bad words about Prophet Abraham and his grandson Prophet Mohammed, salam is to both of them!
They taught people to every virtue and forbid them from every indecency, and in addition they invited mankind to God Most Gracious.
What ignorant and rancorous and blind you are!
It is you that are a Satan worshiper, or at least a Satan follower.
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Anyhow, these atheists and Zionists have distracted us from our original post about Prophet Abraham, salam to him.
So he wrangled with the angels, and they told him to desist from such wrangling about Lot's people, and that is because the sentence had been decided for them: that they would be terminated.
The same had also been about Prophet Noah, when the sentence of God issued about terminating them, Noah was forbidden from interceding or asking mercy and respite for his people; as in the Quran 11: 37, which means:
{"But build the Ark [or the ship] under Our observation and as We instruct you by revelation,
and address Me not on behalf of the wrong-doers [that I may pardon them, and do not intercede for them]; surely they are going to be drowned."}
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
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In fact, Noah interceded for the behalf of his grandson Canaan, that God may save him; but his intercession was not accepted, and he was told to refrain from such intercession for the disbeliever, so he repented and asked God's forgiveness, as in the Quran 11: 45-46, which mean:
{ 45. And Noah called unto his Lord, and said:
"My Lord, my son is one of my family members [whom You promised me to save from the drowning],
and Your promise [concerning their saving from the drowning] is surely true [that will not be broken a.]
You are the Most Wise among rulers [with your words and work.] b
46. [God – be glorified –] said:
"Noah, he is not one of your family members [whom I promised you to save c];
this [your request to save your son Canaan] is unrighteous deed; so ask Me not concerning that [of his deeds about] which you have no knowledge
I admonish you that you should not be [one] of the ignorant d."
47. [Noah] said: "My Lord, I take refuge with Thee, lest I should ask Thee for that of which I have no knowledge e, and unless Thou forgive me and have mercy on me, I should indeed be of those who lose [in the Next Life.]"}
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a So, please save him.
b Canaan was the grandson of Noah, not his son; but He called him ‘his son’ because the son stands in the place of his father; moreover, the grandson shall have, out of the inheritance of his grandfather, the share of his dead father.
This is confirmed by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 12: 6 telling about Jacob [addressing his son Joseph, which means]:
(And [your Lord will] fulfill His grace to you [with prophecy and sovereignty], and to the men of Jacob's house, as did He fulfill it before to your fathers: Abraham and Isaac.)
Since Isaac was the grandfather of Joseph not his father, and Abraham was the father of his grandfather, not his father. But because the grandfather stands in the place of the father, he called him ‘his son.’
c This is according to the aya 11: 40 (save those [: his betraying second wife and his grandson: Canaan] against whom the word has already been pronounced [by the Lord]) to leave him behind.
d It means: Don’t decide that someone is righteous, in spite of that you are ignorant about his deeds or whom you do ignore.
e About its truth.
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
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The vilest shyte-hole nations on the planet are Muslim ones. The inhabitants are mostly theives and murderers.
The real God doesn't like you, much. Perhaps, it is because you worship "Allah" and his demon "Mohammed".
The real God doesn't like you, much. Perhaps, it is because you worship "Allah" and his demon "Mohammed".
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The desert smells and I know why. Mohammad and his followers turned that place from a paradise into a **** hole. Full of the unclean. Too ignorant to bathe or follow any sanitary practices. Illiterate, backwards and inbred.
Selfshame is no different than the Jehovah's Witnesses that go from door to door handing out Watchtowers. They do it here because they know, in the western world, to threaten them with death or hunt them down would get their hunters in trouble with the law. It is not like this everywhere on the planet though.
Your time is coming, Selfshame. As is the cleansing fire of all Islam when it is wiped from the face of the earth.
It was said that the desert will be filled with the bodies of the unrighteous - the followers of Islam. Once a land of milk and honey, but fit now, only for pigs to live.
A great fire is coming to you, Selfshame. A fire delivered by righteous men that will eliminate the evil people and liars you call the chosen - the followers of Islam. You can quote the Quran night and day, but it is a false book, written by liars and thieves. Written by men who were devils. Written to fool the ignorant and serve the greedy.
When the fire falls down from the sky, I shall watch with delight, when it cleanses the desert and destroys you. For it is written that death shall come to the unbelievers, and the idolaters, and the followers of Mohammad.
For the wages of sin is death...Romans 6:23
Worse even than your physical death will be the void into which you the rest of your evil group will pass. Yours will be a spiritual death. You will be devoid of body and devoid of purpose. Your life on earth has been a waste. Your death will cleanse the planet of evil and filth.
There will be no saving you from your a vile end. Your destiny is one of despair, devoid of meaning or value, unless you repent. Stop following false prophets, throw yourself down and pray that God might take pity on you and lift you up.
This is the true face of Selfsame. He is an evil serpent, sent by a false prophet to trick you. He is full of lies, venom and evil purpose.
The Bible warns of false prophets and servants of Satan. You are the evil about which the Bible speaks.
2 Corinthians 11:15, speaks about you. "...So it is no wonder that his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve."
Begone, unholy creature. Return to Satan's side and know that you life is meaningless unless you repent!
Selfshame is no different than the Jehovah's Witnesses that go from door to door handing out Watchtowers. They do it here because they know, in the western world, to threaten them with death or hunt them down would get their hunters in trouble with the law. It is not like this everywhere on the planet though.
Your time is coming, Selfshame. As is the cleansing fire of all Islam when it is wiped from the face of the earth.
It was said that the desert will be filled with the bodies of the unrighteous - the followers of Islam. Once a land of milk and honey, but fit now, only for pigs to live.
A great fire is coming to you, Selfshame. A fire delivered by righteous men that will eliminate the evil people and liars you call the chosen - the followers of Islam. You can quote the Quran night and day, but it is a false book, written by liars and thieves. Written by men who were devils. Written to fool the ignorant and serve the greedy.
When the fire falls down from the sky, I shall watch with delight, when it cleanses the desert and destroys you. For it is written that death shall come to the unbelievers, and the idolaters, and the followers of Mohammad.
For the wages of sin is death...Romans 6:23
Worse even than your physical death will be the void into which you the rest of your evil group will pass. Yours will be a spiritual death. You will be devoid of body and devoid of purpose. Your life on earth has been a waste. Your death will cleanse the planet of evil and filth.
There will be no saving you from your a vile end. Your destiny is one of despair, devoid of meaning or value, unless you repent. Stop following false prophets, throw yourself down and pray that God might take pity on you and lift you up.
This is the true face of Selfsame. He is an evil serpent, sent by a false prophet to trick you. He is full of lies, venom and evil purpose.
The Bible warns of false prophets and servants of Satan. You are the evil about which the Bible speaks.
2 Corinthians 11:15, speaks about you. "...So it is no wonder that his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve."
Begone, unholy creature. Return to Satan's side and know that you life is meaningless unless you repent!
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