The Worst PM Ever. Period!

JLM

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But that gol-dang gummint keeps harassing you with roads, bridges, education, health care, water and sewer, air traffic control, licensure of use of the radio spectrum, inspection of food and drugs, guaranteeing bank deposits, and making sure restaurants are reasonably clean and hygenic!

Why can't they just leave y'all alone?
Good points, Bones.............................some folks just got to be managed! :)
 

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Good points, Bones.............................some folks just got to be managed! :)
Nobody has the "romance for the nineteenth century" delusion as bad as Americans, western Canadians, and Australians.

I LIKE having decent roads, air conditioning, and dental care. I lived without 'em long enough, and my memory ain't defective.
 
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We have to consider the time frame in discussions like this. In the short term, a decade or two, piplines to tide waters would scertainly benefit the greater good of all Canadians. With a time frame of four or five decades the greater good would mean a drastic reduction in the burning of fossil fuels. The same goes for globalization. In the short term it would mean taking on some pretty nasty foreign problems as our own and you woan't find many Canadians who want that. but looking at it in a century or more wouldn't it be nice to think we can do away with hunger and poverty on a global level and maybe put an end to war? Sweeping changes in the short term would just make a huge mess, but I think if we want to achieve long term targets that make the whole world a better place for everybody the least we can do now is to keep moving in that direction. The sort of insular, nationalistic politics common on the right seek to move us in the wrong direction.
In a century parts of the Earth will be completely uninhabitable. Even before then there is every likelihood that a war will be fought over water. I admire your hopes for an end to poverty and hunger, Nick but in all reality I expect they will just get a whole lot worse.
 

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In a century parts of the Earth will be completely uninhabitable. Even before then there is every likelihood that a war will be fought over water. I admire your hopes for an end to poverty and hunger, Nick but in all reality I expect they will just get a whole lot worse.
Parts of the Earth are completely uninhabitable now, and have been for centuries. And wars have been and will be fought over every conceivable issue, real or imagined. Including water wars. Poverty and hunger have been the lot of every society that grew beyond the small-band phase.

Why should any of that change?
 

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But that gol-dang gummint keeps harassing you with roads, bridges, education, health care, water and sewer, air traffic control, licensure of use of the radio spectrum, inspection of food and drugs, guaranteeing bank deposits, and making sure restaurants are reasonably clean and hygenic!

Why can't they just leave y'all alone?
Sooo roads, bridges, education, health care, water and sewer are socialist ideals? Huh, who knew the Roman Empire was nothin' but a bunch of socialists.
 

petros

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They charged tolls. We pay gas and municipal taxes as tolls as well as...guess what? Tolls.

The notion these are provided by social means through the profits of public owned Crown Corporations is just fucking bizarre.

We are far from socialist. Investment into human capital is.... well... its capitalist.
 
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taxme

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Ooooh, I'm not sure if that is the best way to "win friends and influence people" :)
Hey, if truth hurts some people, well, too bloody bad for them. I do not go along to get along. If something needs to be said then I will say it. I am what I like to call myself a leader unlike others who prefer to be just known as followers. There are way too many people in Canada who prefer to not think for themselves anymore and instead prefer and allow some government useless communist lackey to think for them. That is how things are done in communist countries.
Hello? Are you listening or getting it yet? :cool:
 

JLM

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Hey, if truth hurts some people, well, too bloody bad for them. I do not go along to get along. If something needs to be said then I will say it. I am what I like to call myself a leader unlike others who prefer to be just known as followers. There are way too many people in Canada who prefer to not think for themselves anymore and instead prefer and allow some government useless communist lackey to think for them. That is how things are done in communist countries.
Hello? Are you listening or getting it yet? :cool:
It's not so much what you said as how you said it. The exact same message could have been conveyed by saying we shouldn't be destroying historical monuments and artifacts WITHOUT mentioning colour, race or creed or derogative terms like "lackeys". I only use that stuff when I'm trying to insult someone. :)
 

taxme

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But that gol-dang gummint keeps harassing you with roads, bridges, education, health care, water and sewer, air traffic control, licensure of use of the radio spectrum, inspection of food and drugs, guaranteeing bank deposits, and making sure restaurants are reasonably clean and hygenic!

Why can't they just leave y'all alone?

You are not all that bright for sure. Indeed, we need to have a government to do all the things you mentioned above. But what we do not need from the government is for the government to deny us our basic rights and freedoms that are guaranteed in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Our C of R are being violated and denied every day by your dear comrade politicians especially now with all of these communist restrictions in place with this Covid nonsense going on. All the of the rights and freedoms that we enjoyed and had just one year ago have pretty much now been all taken away from us. It's all because of y'all fools like you who seem to feel that government knows best. All governments seem to do these days is screw things up rather than make things better.

When the people fear government, it is tyranny. When the government fears the people, it is democracy. Think about that for awhile, y'all. :D
 

taxme

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It's not so much what you said as how you said it. The exact same message could have been conveyed by saying we shouldn't be destroying historical monuments and artifacts WITHOUT mentioning colour, race or creed or derogative terms like "lackeys". I only use that stuff when I'm trying to insult someone. :)

Well goody-goody for you. Sometimes it takes insults to maybe try and wake some bone heads up. Trying to be nice with some people at times gets people nowhere. Sometimes one just has to say it as it is in the hopes that some people will get with the program. And what is wrong with pointing out those words like color, creed and calling some people lackeys? Who or how am I going to point out anything about or to anyone if I cannot call out who they are? HELLO?
 

JLM

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Well goody-goody for you. Sometimes it takes insults to maybe try and wake some bone heads up. Trying to be nice with some people at times gets people nowhere. Sometimes one just has to say it as it is in the hopes that some people will get with the program. And what is wrong with pointing out those words like color, creed and calling some people lackeys? Who or how am I going to point out anything about or to anyone if I cannot call out who they are? HELLO?
That's all well and good but I like to give them a chance to act like "bone heads" first, BEFORE "dropping the hammer".
 

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Parts of the Earth are completely uninhabitable now, and have been for centuries. And wars have been and will be fought over every conceivable issue, real or imagined. Including water wars. Poverty and hunger have been the lot of every society that grew beyond the small-band phase.

Why should any of that change?
It won't which was my point.
 

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Justin Trudeau was more committed to borrowing his way out of the COVID-19 crisis last year than almost any other leader in the developed world. That cushioned the blow of the pandemic, but raises some hard questions about what Canada got for all that spending.
 

JLM

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Justin Trudeau was more committed to borrowing his way out of the COVID-19 crisis last year than almost any other leader in the developed world. That cushioned the blow of the pandemic, but raises some hard questions about what Canada got for all that spending.
Maybe a good thing in many ways as many children in the past 50 years haven't been raised to be self sufficient. Without the handouts there would be a lot of starvation.