"The west wants out": Separatist sentiments growing in Alberta

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I'm not exactly thrilled with the Kenney Government tight now. They have no idea what they are doing. It's a drastic change from the Ralph Klein years, or any other administration, for that matter.

We have to tread carefully. Seperatist movements are traditionally frowned upon. Just look at the damage it did to Quebec. Most of the rich Anglophones and Jews migrated south to Toronto, and Montreal ceased to be the business capital of Canada. The PQ drove them away to Toronto, and out of province. Investment into Quebec took a nosedive.

However, if we are smart, we can always play the card that Quebec never had- American interest. The advantage Western Canada has, is that unlike Quebec, the United States legitimately would want Alberta and Saskatchewan to be absorbed into the US. Quebec never had that option, as it would have been too big a headache to absorb another Puerto Rico (a district to incorporate, that has a different language and culture).

A united Canada is in the best interests of the Americans, but if push came to shove, the US would be on our side in the dispute. That is something that Quebec lacked.


Quebec attempted separation for entirely different reasons and it's not just the USA that has an interest in West Cdn energy, hell, Eastern Canada relies, absolutely, on it as well.
 

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For one thing, it's too easy to exploit First Nations people. 19 of 20 bands are in favor of a pipeline being built after consultations, and the media goes directly to the one band holding out, and makes champions of them, even though a pipeline would improve all 20 bands quality of life.

Quebec will never be on Alberta's side.

I hate the talk of separation too. Having checked out a Wexeit rally, it was embarrassing. The guy that is organizing the rallies is a failed ex-cop, who appeals to people with an IQ under 90.
Is the failed ex cop the only one talking separation ? From out here in LaLa land it sounds like western alienation hasn’t subsided .
 

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It obviously has not, but there is a way to go about doing these things. The idiots at Wexit have no clue what they are doing, and giving Alberta a black eye in the process, since it has been in the MSM. I personally think I could have took the stage, and done a better job speaking to the people than these Wexit clowns.
It doesn't matter that most of them are about on par with hoid for IQ and grasp of reality. The fact that the message is getting out is all that matters. Still not seeing much difference from when Reform started out except maybe not so many religious crackpots.
 

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I think that what you are posting is what you hope for as opposed to what actually is.


The fact that Kenney still makes reference to solutions outside separation should be a strong indicator that it has legs.


As far a the plan goes, you can research the various groups that have articulated their general approaches but what they all have in common is to cut-off the flow of cash to Ottawa and you can bet your ass that this gets tater tot's attention
 

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It obviously has not, but there is a way to go about doing these things. The idiots at Wexit have no clue what they are doing, and giving Alberta a black eye in the process, since it has been in the MSM. I personally think I could have took the stage, and done a better job speaking to the people than these Wexit clowns.
Maybe you should , every movement requires articulate passionate speakers .
 

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I approve of Wexit and Quebexit.
It's easier to manipulate and dominate three tiny countries than one small one.

It will never happen, Canadian's are sheep. They don't have the balls to make a change like that or truely stand up against their government..

They talk and beat their chest, but when it comes down to the red line in the sand, they would rather watch hockey on the Chesterfield and eat poutine and drink Canadian
 
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It doesn't matter that most of them are about on par with hoid for IQ and grasp of reality. The fact that the message is getting out is all that matters. Still not seeing much difference from when Reform started out except maybe not so many religious crackpots.
Unfortunately Taxslave the reality is that to gain nomination in any of our major parties one must have both financial and grassroots support . Where does one find support , a union , or a religious or cultural congregation? Almost all nominations are a result of religious affiliation in one form or another . If you don’t believe me go down the list .
 

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It will never happen, Canadian's are sheep. They don't have the balls to make a change like that or truely stand up against their government..

They talk and beat their chest, but when it comes down to the red line in the sand, they would rather watch hockey on the Chesterfield and eat poutine and drink Canadian
Sadly you are probably right , however we have a history of answering the bell .
 

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Unfortunately Taxslave the reality is that to gain nomination in any of our major parties one must have both financial and grassroots support . Where does one find support , a union , or a religious or cultural congregation? Almost all nominations are a result of religious affiliation in one form or another . If you don’t believe me go down the list .
In this case a common enemy. TrudOWE. It isn't that difficult or expensive to get your name on the ballot. Reform had the advantage of some names that quit the other parties but finding people to run when they have a cause isn't difficult. I doubt it will get far . The bigger problem is the potential to split the vote and have the dippers win by default.
 

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It will never happen, Canadian's are sheep. They don't have the balls to make a change like that or truely stand up against their government..

They talk and beat their chest, but when it comes down to the red line in the sand, they would rather watch hockey on the Chesterfield and eat poutine and drink Canadian


It's hard to disagree with your point, however I think there is a point where it becomes impossible for the west to support eastern Canada autocratic rule. I've lived in MB, SK, and AB and one thing I know about westerners, they are not the type to sit on the chesterfield and eat poutine while their way of life gets systematically and deliberately dismantled and their economy gets hollowed out by eastern elitist assholes. There is a tipping point...and it's coming.

Its going to be very interesting to see what happens when Trudeau kills the Teck mine project. He's already putting together an "aid package" for Alberta, I suspect the offering is going to be seen as even more offensive than the deliberate sabotage of their economy. Albertans just want to work, unlike the East they don't take kindly to patronizing charity from a condescending Laurentian elitist douche bag who is intent on nothing less than their complete reform and subservience.