The "Wall" Obsession

Ocean Breeze

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Poor Trumpite. Not only was the economy doing fine, the deficit was trending in the right direction. Obama good. Trump bad
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Don't confuse a Trumpian with fACTS......... as they view thugs only though the Trumpian murky lens
 
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Ocean Breeze said:
Don't confuse a Trumpian with fACTS......... as they view thugs only though the Trumpian murky lens
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When the Sam Hell did buying stuff on credit you can't pay for become a "conservative value?"

Oh, right. A few years before hating and disparaging dead American war heroes who served as conservative senators for decades became a pastime and a pass to enter CPAC.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Yeah, putting Trump re-election signs in every thread shows you're not super enthusiastic.
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What's the alternative.. I still would prefer Jeb Bush in the White House.

I still vote Republican..

I think Jeb Bush would do more for the Latin community in the USA. After all his wife was born in León, Mexico.

https://twitter.com/jeb2020campaign

 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Do you hate John McCain, as ordered?
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John McCain was a hero, not just a war hero but a hero for American rights and immigrants.

I do not like it at all when Trump attacks the deceased.

He also did it to another person who was passed..

Trump has issues, but setting those aside, he hasn't started WWIII (YET) and again he has kept his promises and tge economy is pretty good.

I don't like what the Democrats are offering.. FAR Left ideas.

If they run someone who is a centrist, like Bill Clinton was.. They may have a chance at the White House.

But if Trump revamp the Health Care system to mirror the UK as he once said was the best in the world.. then ya gotta give it to him.

He is not Republican, he is a New York Liberal trying to keep his deplorables happy. :lol:
 
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Ah, Yernie...
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Yonstant yuk yuks you yommunists yeh, Yorgie?
 
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Why are just some sailors so ****face stupid?
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...and to think the sailors on the Liberty were saved from the Israelis, by Russians...who hate nazis.
 
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Group says it's building its own border wall on private property

A group that raised millions of dollars in a GoFundMe campaign says it has broken ground on a project to build its own stretch of border wall on private property.
We Build the Wall, a group founded by a triple amputee Air Force veteran, said in a series of social media posts on Monday that it had started construction on private property in New Mexico. The announcement comes months after the group began its GoFundMe campaign to raise private donations for a border wall, and days after a federal judge blocked President Donald Trump from tapping into billions in Defense Department funds for his administration's wall construction efforts.
"Buckle up, we're just getting started!" the group wrote in a Facebook post, sharing what it said were images of construction over the weekend.
On Monday evening, a CNN team watched as heavy machinery rumbled over the site near the New Mexico-Texas state line near El Paso. Kris Kobach, former Kansas secretary of state and longtime immigration hardliner, spoke to CNN over the clanking and beeping of construction equipment.
"It's amazing to me how crowdfunding can successfully raise a lot of money, and how many Americans care about this," said Kobach, who's now general counsel for We Build the Wall.
A half-mile stretch of wall on the site is nearly finished, Kobach said, costing an estimated $6 million to $8 million to build. The main contractor working at the site: Fisher Industries, a North Dakota-based company that President Trump has been aggressively advocating should be awarded government contracts to build the border wall, The Washington Post reported last week.
Word of the private wall's construction is likely to rile opponents of efforts to build up barriers at the US southern border, while energizing supporters of Trump and one of his most oft-repeated campaign promises.
Filling a 'gap that needed to be filled'
Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who chairs We Build the Wall's advisory board, told CNN on Monday that the stretch of private wall connects two 21-mile sections of existing fencing.
CNN was not able to independently confirm that the new wall connects the two portions of border fencing constructed by the federal government.
"Border Patrol told us it's the No. 1 most important miles to close. The tough terrain always left it off the government list," Bannon said. "And that's what we focus on -- private land that is not in the program and take the toughest first."
CNN has reached out to US Customs and Border Protection for comment.
Kobach described the area as a "gap that needed to be filled" to put a stop to drug and human smuggling.
"The whole idea is we want to supplement and complement what the federal government is doing," Kobach said. "We can complement it by closing the gap and making that wall in El Paso that much more effective."
'They moved very quickly'
Jeff Allen told CNN he owns the property where We Build the Wall's team is working, and he's excited to see it.
"They are doing an incredible job," he said. "I have fought illegals on this property for six years. I love my country and this is a step in protecting my country."
Daniel Garcia Salinas, the director of a nearby museum on the Mexican side of the border, told CNN the new wall went up rapidly over the weekend, changing the horizon behind the Museo Casa de Adobe.
Garcia said that when he had left the museum Friday afternoon there was no fencing there. By Saturday morning, he said, portions of new wall had been constructed.
"They moved very quickly," he said.
Leaders of We Build the Wall offered different assessments of how much construction had occurred.
While Bannon told CNN a mile of new wall had been built, Kobach said a half-mile had been constructed.
Kobach declined to specify which areas the group is considering for future construction, but said a site in Texas and a site in California are currently next on the list.
More than $20 million in donations
We Build the Wall's fundraising efforts began in December. At the time, founder Brian Kolfage told CNN he'd decided to move forward because of "inaction from our politicians."
The ongoing campaign has raked in more than $20 million in donations on GoFundMe. The average donation was $67, Kobach said, and more than 300,000 people contributed.
Recent reports detailed how some donors questioned why they hadn't seen any construction despite the millions donated, but organizers said they had to keep plans secret to protect the project.
"Remember powerful people want to stop our progress, so to not tip anyone off we are radio silent!" Kolfage wrote in a Facebook post shared by the group earlier this month. "The (American Civil Liberties Union) would file a lawsuit to impede our wall success if they knew where and when."
On Monday, Kolfage and other supporters of the organization were trumpeting their efforts on social media.
"All the haters said it was impossible!!" Kolfage wrote on Twitter. "Bahaha where ya at now?"
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New Mexico Mayor Orders Group Building Border Wall To Stop Construction

The mayor of Sunland Park, New Mexico, has issued a cease-and-desist order to a private group that raised millions to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
The wall is being constructed by We Build The Wall, a private organization which began a GoFundMe fundraiser in December 2018 when President Donald Trump faced opposition from Congress in receiving a proposed $5 billion to construct the barrier.
To date, the group has raised over $22 million of a $1 billion goal, something which the group's leader, Air Force veteran Brian Kolfage, said has been established only because that is the highest monetary allotment that GoFundMe allows for a fundraiser.
The cease-and-desist order was issued on Tuesday after it was determined that the group did not have the proper permits for construction, city spokesperson Peter Ibardo told The Texas Tribune.
“The city has not provided any permits, it has not approved of the construction that has gone up already. They built the structure without authority or any building permits from the city," Ibardo said.
Speaking to KTMS, Sunland Park Mayor Javier Perea added that the wall is also in violation of city ordinances that regulate how tall a structure can be. Perea said that the application for construction were never returned to the city by American Eagle Brick.
The company owns the land where the wall was partially constructed over the Memorial Day weekend, the Tribune said.
Former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who sits on the advisory board for We Build The wall, told the Tribune that the land owner obtained the proper permits needed for construction and that inspectors were present at the build site prior to the start of the build.
However, Ibardo disputed the statement, telling the newspaper that while an application form was filed, it was incomplete and no permit was issued for construction. Inspectors who attempted to visit the site last week were not allowed to do so, he added.
Kobach told the Tribune that construction for the half-mile length of wall a few miles from El Paso, Texas, cost between $6 and $8 million. The section of wall marks the first construction project from the group which previously faced controversy as donors questioned if the promised project would ever materialize after months passed with no updates on the progress of the wall.
"There is no update because we are remaining silent for a very good reason. You all will have the best present very soon. Remember powerful people want to stop our progress, so to not tip anyone off we are radio silent!," Kolfage wrote on his Facebook page in response to the questions from donors. "The (American Civil Liberties Union) would file a lawsuit to impede our wall success if they knew where and when. But when I guaranteed we'd build the wall I meant it, and we are working with many congressman and senators to help us mitigate these issues from the left-wing attack groups. We are in the homestretch and it's on a need to know basis."
Kolfage said in another Facebook post on Monday that the group is currently working on plans for a second wall, though he did not give a location or a time period when donors could expect to see construction begin.
Speaking to KTMS, Kobach said that the organization plans to turn the wall over to U.S. Customs and Border Patrol once construction is complete.
"They can use it how they see fit," Kobach said, adding that the wall is equipped with lights and underground sensors.
It is unclear if construction has halted on the wall, KTMS reported that contractors expected to complete installation of the barrier on Wednesday.
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So who is lying the landowner or the resistance?


According to this link the Mayor is out of luck the land isn't in town limits

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=31.8066...r0=31.806667,-106.58,Sunland Park, New Mexico
 
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