The Viet Nam War by Ken Burns
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Documented history! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
They may have been "no less patriotic" it depends, war is the supreme crime even if you are conscripted into it. The American invasion
of Vietnam was clearly an act of war. The horrific slaughter in that invasion and military occupation cast a dark shadow on the aggressors patriotism to say the least and ignorance is a crime in itself. They were sacrificed to creed not to patriotic duty. IMHO
Patriotic duty would be to defend ones country not invade someone elses and use chemical weapons every day.
I treat myself to Pom every so often. I savor it like a fine wine. You can keep the almonds, but shipments of pistachios would be much appreciated. :lol:
Documented history! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahHistory is written by bankers in this era not historians. Your poor soul you, may god climb up your pant leg and bite your azz.idiocy hahahahahah
They may have been "no less patriotic" it depends, war is the supreme crime even if you are conscripted into it. The American invasion
of Vietnam was clearly an act of war. The horrific slaughter in that invasion and military occupation cast a dark shadow on the aggressors patriotism to say the least and ignorance is a crime in itself. They were sacrificed to creed not to patriotic duty. IMHO
Patriotic duty would be to defend ones country not invade someone elses and use chemical weapons every day.
They were ****ing kids, DB. 18, 19 years old. What the **** did they know except that they were there to do their duty for their country. It was only in the later years once the lies were revealed that the kids got wise.......and we all know the war went downhill fast after that.
To be honest, by the late 60s, many of the kids being drafted believed it was all a lie and a mistake. That's why so many avoided going.
Like I mentioned ignorance does not exonerate an act of war, I understand fully their sacrifice of thier innocence, every war there has ever been utilized and brutalized thier own young. My opinion does not mean that I do not have a sence of thier sacrificed youth and innocence. A million young German soldiers were starved to death in open fields at the end of the second world war and virtually no one knows or cares.When you take part in a war of agression like Vietnam you toss away innocence the first shot. That does not mean that I don't appreciate that loss when they were ordered to do whatever they did.
Thank you for the clarification, DB. We should also remember that millions of young Vietnamese also gave their lives, not just fighting the US but in prior quests for independence against invaders. All they wanted was the same freedom that their occupiers enjoyed.
The difference is in law thier lives were taken by that act of agression, war. It's a touchy subject but the youth of America have been spent by Americas occupying power. The third side always wins. That's the way things look to me. All of the young pawns these monsters have sacrificed to thier vile God deserve our consideration if the carnage is to ever to be stopped. War is the economy of planet Earth and it has been for a very long time, far to long I think.
Children and old men eventually go to war to feed the monster bankers,babies and old ladies, every soul earns a few dollars before it gives up the ghost. War sucks most of the time I guess. Civilization dosn't stand a chance I'm afraid.
The difference is in law thier lives were taken by that act of agression, war. It's a touchy subject but the youth of America have been spent by Americas occupying power. The third side always wins. That's the way things look to me. All of the young pawns these monsters have sacrificed to thier vile God deserve our consideration if the carnage is to ever to be stopped. War is the economy of planet Earth and it has been for a very long time, far to long I think.
It is an emotional subject for me, DB so forgive me if I lost my cool there.
I suppose that what I find the most upsetting is that Viet Nam is still a divided country as several Vietnamese from both sides of the war attested to in the documentary. After all those decades and decades of bloodshed, they still have no real unity of purpose. All they wanted was freedom with all the rights that attend it such as being able to elect a government of their choice - not one that is thrust down their throats.
If anyone ever tries to compare the Russians to us ...
The POWs that we held in Canadian camps went home at the end of the war,turned around and came back to Canada to stay and settle.
Some of them did, CC.......some returned home and stayed there. I've seen a few documentaries about the POWs and the camps and interviews with some who remained in Canada and became a part of our tapestry.
I know one lived a couple of miles from me most of my life and I worked for a fromer Hitler Youth engineer for a bit. There are smalloutbreaks of civility now and again Isuspect.
I knew some of them. We used to buy our Christmas trees from one of them when I as young. He ran a little landscaping business out of his house. Another one was the janitor in our elementary school. I later met a man (I knew his son) who survived the U-Boat service that way. Not many did.
I also used the race a Flying Dutchman sail boat with a Bavarian Hitlerjungen. He wasn't a POW, just an all-purpose escaped Nazi.
I shared an Engineering office with a Prussian who's father had been a Major in the SS in the East and never returned. Helmut was .... very ... Prussian.
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Mowich; said:
VCs and NVA were just defending themselves. Honestly, how can you condemn them for doing so? It was their land that was invaded, their people who were butchered, their farmlands destroyed, their country polluted with dangerous chemicals. It was the government of the USA at the behest of corporate capitalists who profited from the war who is responsible for all those deaths and depredations.
Those who opposed the war were (and still are often called) radicals, unamerican, traitors, and subversives. And all those attacks were total bullshtt because those who dissented from the imperialist war were only trying to save lives. They more than anyone else deserve to be called patriots. If you had a child or sibling killed there you would say exactly the same thing.
They were in the war to protect the CIA heroin trade, there is no fuking honor in dying for the Rothschild bankers. WTFuk do you think was being protested you witless dick??
Does it make you feel more manly when you swear?
The war started long before the US showed up. Perhaps the French were protecting the CIA drug trade.
I hope that you untangle your troubled mind. You need three guides. A medical doctor, a psychologist and a spiritual leader.
You should also consider taking up a calming hobby like knitting.