Thumbs down, because you should have to give an example, not that I disagree with you.
The US Election- Lies and truths
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Please keep your greens away from my posts- Reds I am fine with - And BaalsTears was clear- you just did not understand his point - and as to examples- WHOTF made that rule up.
You again making rules.
I agree with you. Obama should be able to coast to a win unless he commits some sort of a major faux pas.
No matter who wins the next election, the US will continue down the current path until they go bankrupt. No politician will advocate making the required sacrifices to avoid the looming train wreck.
So far I've not seen real change in US foreign policy track record.
Guantanamo still holds hundreds of people without due process. The US still abducts people and holds them in secret black sites around the world. Obama's proxy detention has replaced Bush's extraordinary rendition (aka abductions).
American drones continue to violate sovereign airspaces to assassinate people, including American citizens, often killing innocent bystanders.
Americans still occupy Iraq and Afghanistan, although their presence has been reduced in Iraq.
The US has not invaded new countries.
The US still lets Israel do as it pleases. Under Obama they've blocked UNSC statements condemning Israel's settlement expansion (aka ethnic cleansing) and Palestinian attempts for formal UN recognition. The US still funds the Israeli war machine and provides economic support... (about $5B a year), although the US has refused to allow Israel to purchase the latest American military technology, because they've tied access to advanced US technology to progress in peace. (exception: bunker buster bombs and possibly the F-35 lightening II)
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They all lie, it's a prerequisite to becoming a politician.. who in most cases politicians are ex-lawyers.. professional lairs.
I'm not a Republican. They're weak.
Would you like to revise your post before further comment?
OK, I thought the US still had a significant military presence in Iraq but I was wrong.
The US only has a few military personnel in Iraq for training Iraqis. Of course I would expect that some of the 17,000 American "diplomats" in Iraq aren't really diplomats. Also some of the ~5000 defense contractors in Iraq on US payroll could be mercenaries.
Regarding Afghanistan:
Afghanistan ISAF
Current Troop Contribution: 90,000
http://www.nato.int/isaf/docu/epub/pdf/placemat.pdf
Iraq is an Iranian ally. America has no real influence in Iraq. All those Americans who died there died in vain.
The same will happen in Afghanistan.
I am very bitter.
You should be bitter.
Americans were scammed into supporting an unprovoked war crime which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and thousands of American service men and women who effectively acted as poorly paid mercenaries for large oil companies, while American tax payers got stuck with the bill.
Nothing has changed as a result of US sacrifices in Iraq, except that Americans are hated more in the middle east than ever.
If I was an American, I'd be pissed! I'd want to see the American war criminals who misled the American people into an unprovoked war based on lies regarding Iraq's non-existent WMD stockpiles and involvement in 9/11 prosecuted for their crimes.
As a result of this war, the US is on the brink of financial ruin, while many international billionaires have made fortunes off oil concessions, infrastructure contracts...
Both the American and Iraqi people are far worse off as a result of this unprovoked war crime.
You should give Obama credit for at least getting the US out of Iraq.... or were you in favor of throwing good money after bad?
Americans were scammed into supporting an unprovoked war crime which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and thousands of American service men and women who effectively acted as poorly paid mercenaries for large oil companies, while American tax payers got stuck with the bill.
Nothing has changed as a result of US sacrifices in Iraq, except that Americans are hated more in the middle east than ever.
If I was an American, I'd be pissed! I'd want to see the American war criminals who misled the American people into an unprovoked war based on lies regarding Iraq's non-existent WMD stockpiles and involvement in 9/11 prosecuted for their crimes.
As a result of this war, the US is on the brink of financial ruin, while many international billionaires have made fortunes off oil concessions, infrastructure contracts...
Both the American and Iraqi people are far worse off as a result of this unprovoked war crime.
You should give Obama credit for at least getting the US out of Iraq.... or were you in favor of throwing good money after bad?
You are absolutely and completely clueless. You again missed the point he was making- Did you hear a distant roar- That was the sound of his points passing far and fast over your head. Christ on a Crutch and you breed. The Human race is doomed. Doomed I say, FFn Doomed.
I just don't know what to make of you.
It is Barack Obama who is keeping US troops in Afghanistan for another two years at least. At the present rate that means at least 500 more Americans who are alive today will die before complete withdrawal. Their deaths don't need to occur. But the issue isn't being discussed in America. This fills my heart with rage. President Obama knows that there is no objective whatsoever in keeping American troops in Afghanistan. The soldiers are fighting for no reason other than to save their lives.
God damn George Bush to hell. God damn Barack Obama to hell. May they both be transported to the Hague, get their day in court and swing from the gallows.
A good article
Jack Mintz: U.S. worse than Europe | FP Comment | Financial Post
Kotlikoff’s calculations show that U.S. unfunded liabilities total US$222-trillion, the highest of all major OECD countries (12% of the time value of U.S. GDP) once accounting for monetary public debt, Social Security deficits and public-health-care unfunded liabilities. One can quibble with some of the calculations, but no one can doubt that the U.S. is in serious fiscal trouble, more so than any other developed economy
The European are dealing with their severe fiscal problem, even if clumsily. But where are U.S. politicians and the public, who still don’t understand the extent of their potential fiscal bankruptcy? The U.S. has the political structure to get the job done, but seems too paralyzed to address a looming fiscal crisis.
Wall Street economists are embarrassingly playing up the 2013 “fiscal cliff,” which results in significant defence cutbacks and higher income and payroll rates. Their concern is focused on a slowdown in the current year, thereby pushing the debt problem down the road. One can bet that Congress will postpone the inevitable by rescinding any significant spending reductions or tax increases.
The Republicans and Democrats alike fail to address the debt problem sufficiently. Republicans will not raise taxes, although the severity of the fiscal problem is so large that some new revenues will be needed. Democrats mindlessly look to hike up marginal income tax rates without fixing a complicated and distorting tax system that undermines growth. Even health policy proposals will undoubtedly fail to put the lid on health-care costs, the biggest unfunded liability of them all.
The U.S. requires a strong dose of fiscal reforms to restructure the public sector. Taxes should be transformed, not just raised. In fact, rates could be lowered and revenues increased if tax preferences are removed. A federal consumption tax should be on the agenda. Public-sector costs must be brought down, including entitlement programs.
Restructuring policies were proposed by the Bowles-Simpson committee that would help deal with the U.S. fiscal crisis, but were ignored by the President who created the committee in the first place. Only Paul Ryan, the Republican nominee for vice-president, seems to understand the need for major fiscal restructuring (which Romney now endorses). Whatever one makes of Ryan’s past proposals, he at least is discussing a major restructuring of the public sector.
The United States should be ashamed. While many experts criticize the Europeans for not pulling together politically, U.S. indebtedness is far greater and more dangerous to the world economy.
Jack Mintz: U.S. worse than Europe | FP Comment | Financial Post
Kotlikoff’s calculations show that U.S. unfunded liabilities total US$222-trillion, the highest of all major OECD countries (12% of the time value of U.S. GDP) once accounting for monetary public debt, Social Security deficits and public-health-care unfunded liabilities. One can quibble with some of the calculations, but no one can doubt that the U.S. is in serious fiscal trouble, more so than any other developed economy
The European are dealing with their severe fiscal problem, even if clumsily. But where are U.S. politicians and the public, who still don’t understand the extent of their potential fiscal bankruptcy? The U.S. has the political structure to get the job done, but seems too paralyzed to address a looming fiscal crisis.
Wall Street economists are embarrassingly playing up the 2013 “fiscal cliff,” which results in significant defence cutbacks and higher income and payroll rates. Their concern is focused on a slowdown in the current year, thereby pushing the debt problem down the road. One can bet that Congress will postpone the inevitable by rescinding any significant spending reductions or tax increases.
The Republicans and Democrats alike fail to address the debt problem sufficiently. Republicans will not raise taxes, although the severity of the fiscal problem is so large that some new revenues will be needed. Democrats mindlessly look to hike up marginal income tax rates without fixing a complicated and distorting tax system that undermines growth. Even health policy proposals will undoubtedly fail to put the lid on health-care costs, the biggest unfunded liability of them all.
The U.S. requires a strong dose of fiscal reforms to restructure the public sector. Taxes should be transformed, not just raised. In fact, rates could be lowered and revenues increased if tax preferences are removed. A federal consumption tax should be on the agenda. Public-sector costs must be brought down, including entitlement programs.
Restructuring policies were proposed by the Bowles-Simpson committee that would help deal with the U.S. fiscal crisis, but were ignored by the President who created the committee in the first place. Only Paul Ryan, the Republican nominee for vice-president, seems to understand the need for major fiscal restructuring (which Romney now endorses). Whatever one makes of Ryan’s past proposals, he at least is discussing a major restructuring of the public sector.
The United States should be ashamed. While many experts criticize the Europeans for not pulling together politically, U.S. indebtedness is far greater and more dangerous to the world economy.
Within Hours, Mitt Romney Takes Back Everything He Said About Preexisting Conditions
On national TV on Sunday morning, with millions of people watching, Mitt Romney told David Gregory that there were parts of Obamacare he actually liked. In fact, he said, one of the goals of his health care plan "is to make sure that those with preexisting conditions can get coverage." A few hours later, with approximately zero people listening, a spokesman quietly "clarified" what he meant:
Within Hours, Mitt Romney Takes Back Everything He Said About Preexisting Conditions | Mother Jones
On national TV on Sunday morning, with millions of people watching, Mitt Romney told David Gregory that there were parts of Obamacare he actually liked. In fact, he said, one of the goals of his health care plan "is to make sure that those with preexisting conditions can get coverage." A few hours later, with approximately zero people listening, a spokesman quietly "clarified" what he meant:
Within Hours, Mitt Romney Takes Back Everything He Said About Preexisting Conditions | Mother Jones
I am sure this will be repeated by Obama time and again- and during the debates- time and again- Where do you stand Mitt- Today is xxx. yesterday you stood for this- then the next day it changed. Does the floor shift under your feet Mitt- Well does it- or is it that pandering again. Terrible affliction that pandering to have and on display for the nation to see. Simply terrible Mitt. I do hope you recover. There is hope for recovery Mitt - Vote Democrat.
Kinda like Obama and that Gay Marriage thing... only he evolved.
Oh and the gas thing too. How it was the Presidents fault with the hike in gas until he became President. Now the President has no control over gas prices.
Ahhh ya gotta love it. The GOP flip flops... Democrats evolve.
Oh and the gas thing too. How it was the Presidents fault with the hike in gas until he became President. Now the President has no control over gas prices.
Ahhh ya gotta love it. The GOP flip flops... Democrats evolve.
Well evolving is important- Why did Mitt state then flop. Massive flop in my opinion.